So carrying on from my last Blog Post where i was asking Senator ILM if he was about to conduct a 'Kangaroo Court' in the states chamber on the 19th July i decided to send ILM an email, i pointed out a few things that i thought needed addressing.
As soon as i get my reply from ILM i will post it on here, i must be fair, he does get back but can sometimes take time, he is flat out at the moment we will wait.
Here is my email
We are all aware that the CPO Graham Power retires on the 20th July 2010.
We are all aware that CPO Graham Power was suspended on the 12th November 2008 under 2.3.3 of the disciplinary code by then Home Affairs Minister Andrew Lewis.
We are aware that this all resulted from a letter from DPC David Warcup backed up by the Metropolitan 'Interim' Police Report
We are aware the Met Interim Report was sent on the 10th November 2008 to David Warcup before Superintendent Brian Sweeting had interviewed SIO Lenny Harper or Andre Baker from ACPO
We now know the IPCC are now in the middle of investigating the Interim report. How did it get sent without the two main players being interviewed? and when it was sent, how did it then get used in the suspension of the Chief of Police when the Met were carrying out a review?
We now know from the March 2009 suspension review that you Senator Le Marquand was unable to use the Met 'Interim' Report and had to keep Graham Power suspended on the Warcup letter alone.
The Met have had a serious falling out with the Jersey Authorities over the misuse of their report. Could the Home Affairs Minister please clear this issue up ASAP. How come David Warcup & Bill Ogley had no idea that this couldn't be used in a suspension process
But first let me take you back to the 12th November 2008. The then Home Affairs minister Andrew Lewis made a statement in the states and i must say it is a very important statement especially looking back some 18 months later. I will quote some parts of it because i believe the new Home Affairs minister has lost his way since early last year.
This is from Andrew Lewis on the 2nd December 2008.
"I am sure that members will entirely understand that it would be most inappropriate to discuss any of the substantive matters that caused me to suspend the Chief Officer and to initiate the procedure under the Disciplinary Code. I cannot comment on them and I would ask the Assembly not to seek to explore them at this time. At some stage at the end of the process my successor, whoever it will be, will need to make a decision about these substantive matters, and he or she should not be influenced in any way by any views expressed by members of the Assembly. In addition, of course, the Chief Officer cannot comment and has not yet had the full opportunity that the process allows to answer to these matters and to defend himself. Any debate would thus be unfair to him as the full facts are not yet known."
"I am sure, however, that members will readily understand that a suspension in these circumstances is a neutral act and implies no finding one way or another but is, rather, an entirely prudent course to preserve the integrity of the investigation."
Now i will ask the Senator are you preparing as a former Magistrate to hold a 'Kangaroo court' against Graham Power in the states on the 19th july just before summer recess.
You say you want to bring substantial parts of Wiltshire 1 and Wiltshire 2 to the house 'WHY' 99% of states members wont understand any off it
1.Do states members understand police procedures? they struggled with cycle helmets
2. Should it not be Graham Power who should be facing these reports. He is suspended as a neutral act, look at what Andrew Lewis says
"In addition, of course, the Chief Officer cannot comment and has not yet had the full opportunity that the process allows to answer to these matters and to defend himself. Any debate would thus be unfair to him as the full facts are not yet known."
Now senator as a former Magistrate are you seriously going to hang Graham Power out to dry in the states chamber on the 19th july. As the Corporate parent/soul you have had since early 2009 to make sure Wiltshire produced their report on time, are you seriously going to take me and fellow states members for fools.
1. Graham Power has not faced any disciplinary proceedings, thats not his fault, its Wiltshire and yours.
2. You should be apologizing to Graham Power, or,do you think its ok laying blame at his door when he has no chance of redress? please explain.
3. Suspension is a 'Neutral' act. Could you advise me where it says suspension is a neutral act, so, what you do is let it run its course then nail him at the end
4. Operation Blast was your suspension. You brought it to the house on the 19th june 2009. We have a double suspension on Graham Power and yes YOU AND WILTSHIRE have failed again with this one. Wiltshire charged us the Jersey Taxpayer £250,000 pounds for this suspension and when asked in the states this is what you said.
Senator B.I. Le Marquand:
"In my opinion, whatever procedure had been followed here, even if it had gone to full disciplinary hearings, even if it had gone to appeals, even if it had gone to the States itself, at the end of the day, members of the public of the Island would still continue to argue over this and individuals involved for many years to come. That was apparent to me right from the start of my involvement in this. It is regrettable that the formal procedures have not occurred, but the members of the public and Members of the States will receive information and they will then have to make up their own minds."
So £250,000 pounds and we have to make our own minds up, Senator what the blinking heck is going on here, do you even know what is going on, the reason i ask this as you keep getting advice from the Law Office and as the SCR said in their report, don't believe everything they tell you.
I could go on Senator
I have been following this since Feb 2008 and like many others have a very good understanding of the issues. This has been a classic disastrous shambles and you must take some of the blame for this. Do you honestly think its fair after 18 months to even contemplate laying any blame at Graham Power when you have failed to bring any disciplinary procedures against him i ask you Senator
Are you going to hold a Kangaroo court on the 19 July
Yes we want answers, as i have been researching police procedure its a funny old thing and not as straight forward as some would think.
Graham Power and the alternative view must be brought to the house at the same time, if not you are holding a KANGAROO COURT
I will let you know what reply if any i get.
Now i also believe its a good idea to look at an email sent to TLS & ILM from a very disgruntled states member just incase you think its me and a couple of others who have a problem with this whole disastrous shambles. This is from Senator Alan Breckon who raises some very good points and who one might add is not a very happy man. Like many of us Senator Breckon wants answers.
This is his email
Dear Terry / Ian
During the States in Camera debate on Wednesday 24th February re Committe of Inquiry - Suspension of the Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police, proposed by the Deputy of St Martin, I expressed the view, whilst not supporting the above, that those responsible - that is the Chief Minister and the Home Affairs Minister should be given the benefit of the doubt to address issues within their remit.
I qualified this by saying that the outstanding matters can NOT be left to drift, and in my opinion either or both of you should report back positively to the States within 6 weeks
I still believe this is both appropriate and achievable, however, having looked at the calendar for States sittings the 6 weeks is not an exact fit, therefore what I am proposing is that either or both of you should report back positively in a statement to the States on or before 20th April which is very nearly 8 weeks from the above debate.
I wish there to be no misunderstanding as to why I am saying this and putting it in writing.
I believe it has become all too easy for Ministers to stand up and say or promise things and not deliver - in this case I do not believe this is good enough -it is not appropriate and I believe I should give you fair warning that if you don't come back to the States with something that is acceptable to myself, other States Members and the general public, within the timescale above, I will bring a vote of no confidence in either or both of you - you should not see this as a threat - it is a promise - I will do it because I do believe you can not be seen to bungle, dither & procrastinate any longer - vision & leadership is required - so get on with it and hurry up!
A number of allegations are now in the public domain - not to mention that a considerable amount of public money has been spent, however, I do not wish to go in to detail here, or express a view however, suffice it to say that it is your duty to sort this out and be seen to be doing so, not dithering with excuses
The clock is ticking and I hope you will appreciate that it is the issues that I am concerned about NOT the personalities - that is youselves or anybody else
I look forward to receiving positive feedback - from either or both of you - not directly to me - but as a "Statement to the States" where matters can be questioned and made public - very soon - as above.
Now i think that email nails it. Now look at the dates. Deputy Hill's proposition was on the 24th feb 2010 and Terry sabotaged it by saying he would bring in his man, we are now coming into July 2010 and still nothing from Brian Napier QC , chuck in the Wiltshire reports and we have ' Ground Hog' day lol
Like i say all the blame cant be put at Wiltshire's door ILM must shoulder his fair share also £250,000 is ILM'S doing regarding Operation Blast.
Its not even about Senator Breckon bringing a vote of no confidence against these bumbling ministers its gone way beyond that, the only people who have ILM'S back at the moment is probably the JEP who are all ready to run on the 19th with some fancy headline and bugger all research and hope it will all go away.
Now my last email is an exchange between Team Voice and Deputy Lewis ahhh Andrew Lewis i hear you say well nope Deputy Kevin Lewis
Now why would Team Voice be having an email exchange with Kevin Lewis are we film buffs? Nope.
Are we interested in the HdelaG abuse scandal? yup very much so
Deputy Kevin Lewis has extensive knowledge of the HdelaG building. This came to our attention some months ago so we got in contact with Deputy Lewis
First can i make it totally clear that Deputy Kevin Lewis is in no way involved or have anything to do with the Abuse that went on at HdelaG he just has an interest in buildings as he will explain in his emails so please no daft comments thank you.
I do however find it strange that he kept quite regarding questions on the cellars, seeing as his knowledge of the building is priceless, this is the fear factor and keep your head down at all times attitude that is alive 'n' kicking in the states.
Here is the Exchange
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: voiceforchildren voiceforchildren <email@example.com>
Date: Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:08 AM
To: "k.lewis" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
As you will be aware there has been confusion between Kevin Lewis and Andrew Lewis sometimes on the Blogs. I am currently researching for an up-coming substantive Blog regarding the cellars at Haute de la Garenne.
I have it on extremely good authority that Deputy "Kevin" Lewis on the 24th February went to HDLG and told the Senior Investigating Officer that (Lenny Harper) "there were cellars there and they had been covered up". It was with that knowledge (from you) that the SIO was able to locate the bricked entrance to the cellars that much easier/sooner.
Naturally I would not like to put anything into the public domain that is not factually correct, so wish to confirm the above is correct?
apologies for delay in replying it's been a hectic few days.
before I became a states Deputy I worked in the eighties as the production liaison, later location manager for BBC Television on the Bergerac series.
needing an old building we found HDLG which had just ceased to be a children's home, we converted the building and used it for approx five years.
as the series was seasonal I kept an eye on the building during the winter months, being an amateur historian in the I decided to research the building and spoke to many old residents, many due to age sadly no longer with us.
when the series came to an end the sets were dismantled and returned to the UK and HDLG was handed back to the states.
many years later February 24th I met up with the senior investigating officer (Lenny Harper) and took him around the building pointing out cellars and how to gain access and provided the SOJP with Arial maps of HDLG then and now and explained areas that had been altered by the series and later by the conversion to a hostel.
as it was a "Live" investigation I then withdrew from the site
Your statement below is factual correct.
Deputy Kevin Lewis
Transport & Technical Services
Thank you for your reply it was most informative. As you may be aware, myself and Rico Sorda, among others, have been researching the HDLG Investigation and the suspension of Chief Police Officer Graham Power.
What is slightly puzzling is that Mick Gradwell and David Warcup have been telling the media and States Members that there were no cellars, and you know this not to be true, and to the best of my knowledge have never mentioned it?
I'm sure you don't need reminding that two very highly respected Police Officers in Lenny Harper and Graham Power are having their careers and reputations torn to shreds over the HDLG Investigation. Why have you never publicly said that the cellars do exist?
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Kevin Lewis <K.Lewis@gov.je> wrote:
(Disclaimer the comments below is information I have received from former residents from 1935 onwards sadly no longer with us
and when I worked at HDLG when it ceased to be a home and my opinion, the comments regarding the structure are from information
pieced together by myself as there have been massive internal alterations over the years.)
The reason I have not made any comment is that the investigations were ongoing, if you look at HDLG you will see it slopes from north to south.
originally the Bath area was accessed by an external door (existing) to enable buckets of hot water to be brought in I believe the bathroom then was uncovered, at that time it was a boys only school, all the boys had to line up and were sent in ten at a time having to scrub the back of the person in front then out and the next ten in.
in later years newer bathrooms with hot running water were fitted and later purpose built shower blocks, the large old bath being no longer required was abandoned and later a floor was put down above and a bath and washbasins installed.
As a floor had been put in over the bath this encroached on the doorway so it was bricked up, and later a TV relay system was bolted to that wall to cable TV down to Gorey which suffered from bad reception.
was it a cellar, was it a mezzanine, was it a lower floor?, it was the old Bathroom and I had made my comments clear to the SIO SOJP at that time.
I provided Arial maps then and now, and all information I had gathered over the years, as the investigation was then " live " I withdrew from the site.
the only comment I had at that previously from former residents was " It was a very tough regime !
So there we have the exchange if any one knows there are cellars its Deputy Kevin Lewis. What is a crucial point that Kevin points out is that the building slopes, this is backed up on the Voiceforchildren site.
I thought i would share these emails with you
We will keep on searching for the Truth
RS Team Voice