Sunday, November 21, 2010

The Exposing of P166/2010


Graham Power a man who has conducted himself with dignity.


So... What ramifications did Proposition P166 hold for the people of Jersey?  


Deputy Bob Hill's proposition was very simple in what it was asking of the elected politicians of the States of Jersey.  In Part A of the proposition all Deputy Hill was requiring from our politicians was that Chief Minister Terry Le Sueur bring a report or statement explaining the points laid out below:


 (a) to request the Chief Minister to inform States members in a Report presented to the Assembly, or in a Statement to the Assembly, of the 

action he has already taken and the action he intends to take in respect of the report dated 10th September 2010 into the suspension of the former Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police prepared for the hief Minister by Mr. Brian Napier QC (‘the Napier Report’) and, in particular to provide information in respect of the following matters – 

 

And now these were the parts of P166/2010


(i) what action, if any, the Chief Minister has taken in respect of 

the destruction by the Chief Executive to the Council of 

Ministers of the original notes he took during the suspension 

meeting and what guidelines, if any, the Chief Minister has 

issued regarding the records of suspension meetings in the 

future; 

 

  (ii) whether he accepts the conclusion set out in paragraphs 45, 

67, 72 and 107 of the Napier Report that action was taken on 

a basis which was contrary to the advice of the Law Officers 

and what action, if any, he has taken or proposes to take in 

respect of that matter; 

 

  (iii) whether he accepts the conclusion set out in paragraphs 49– 

53, 55, 58–66, 107 and 108 of the Napier Report that the 

suspension process did not meet the requirements of the 

Disciplinary Code for the Chief Officer, issued under 

Article 9(1) of the Police Force (Jersey) Law 1974 as part of 

the Chief Officer’s terms and conditions, and what action, if 

any, he has taken regarding the apparent breach of the process 

specified in the Code; 

 

  (iv) why there has been no formal presentation of the report to 

members and no opportunity to discuss the findings with the 

author? 

 

  (v) what training, procedural and other corrective measures, if 

any, he has taken in order to ensure that personnel issues, and 

in particular disciplinary issues, are managed appropriately in 

the future; 

 

  (vi) whether any disciplinary proceedings have been taken as a 

result of the findings of the Napier Report and, if so, to update 

members on the outcome of those proceedings; 

 

 (b) to request the Chief Minister to issue a formal apology to the retired 

Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police in relation to the failure of 

those involved, as identified in the Napier Report, to deal with the 

Chief Officer’s suspension in accordance with the procedures set out 

in the Disciplinary Code; 

 



But our elected politicians couldn't even do that.


It was a classic debate; one that fully exposed the blinkered hostility certain states members and constables have towards open, transparent government and accountability.  Only two members stood up in defence of the Chief Minister and that was the Chief Minister himself and the Home Affairs Minister, who publicly held a Kangaroo Court against the former suspended Chief of Police, Graham Power, in April of this year.


I would like to say well done to the Deputies and Senators who stood up and delivered brilliantly well researched speeches.  The fact that these speeches had no bearing on the debate or votes is again a very bad indictment of our state of government.  One of the main reasons for P166/2010 failing is the personal issues our government has with Graham Power and Lenny Harper.  In their eyes these two people are the enemy of Jersey and their crime was exposing institutional child abuse.  They blame Graham Power and Lenny Harper for bringing the International Media to Jersey, but show absolutely no condemnation of the perpetrators of such heinous crimes.  


In November of the year 2010, can anyone honestly say where Jersey is heading?  We seem to be losing our social and moral conscience by the day.  My government believes it's OK to illegally suspend the Chief of Police, QPM, in the middle of an international child abuse scandal.  They too believe it is totally fine that the Chief of Police is offered none of his rights as required under the States of Jersey Police  Law 1974.  They also believe it is OK for the Chief Executive to destroy the notes of the suspension meeting and consider this to be good practice.  They also believe it is OK for the Chief of Police to have no right of response to the allegations made against him when his only crime was investigating child abuse.


Where does that leave us as a functioning democracy?


The 18 states members and constables pictured below voted against all 7 points of proposition P166.  I can safely say, hand on heart, that these politicians and constables, and there are more to follow on the next couple of blogs, are a danger to me, the people of Jersey and most importantly to every child who is presently in the care of the States of Jersey.


I say this because they are allowing personality politics to get in the way of good governance... and we are screaming out for good governance.  I will finish by saying part (v) was won and there were many members who voted in favour of that part but against the remaining 6.  They will be named and shamed.  Here is the code of ethics I believe a government should strive to abide by and are currently failing at every possible turn. 


Selflessness : Holders of public office should take decisions solely in terms of the public interest. They should not do so in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family, or their friends.


Integrity : Holders of public office should not place themselves under any financial or other obligation to outside individuals or organisations that might influence them in the performance of their official duties.


Objectivity : In carrying out public business, including making public appointments, awarding contracts, or recommending individuals for rewards and benefits, holders of public office should make choices on merit.


Accountability : Holders of public office are accountable for their decisions and actions to the public and must submit themselves to whatever scrutiny is appropriate to their office.


Openness : Holders of public office should be as open as possible about all the decisions and actions that they take. They should give reasons for their decisions and restrict information only when the wider public interest clearly demands.


Honesty : Holders of public office have a duty to declare any private interests relating to their public duties and to take steps to resolve any conflicts arising in a way that protects the public interest.


Leadership : Holders of public office should promote and support these principles by leadership and example.


Now go back and read what p166/2010 was asking. Ask yourself what is this Government so afraid of.


TRUTH-HONESTY -INTEGRITY


These have none of the Above


Every one of these states members voted against all points of P166/2010. How many of the states members below are on the States Employment Board? yet, display these ethics? to me it makes no sense.


These States Members are a Danger to Children in Care, the reason for saying this is simple. Who now will be prepared to blow the whistle in Jersey if they see malpractice towards Children. Do these States members not recognise the magnitude of what they are doing..


If any of the States Members don't agree with what Im saying please feel free to contact me at ricosorda@yahoo.co.uk


I look forward to hearing why you voted the way you did. And, with your permission, im more than willing to put your argument across seeing as none of you put it across in the states.


They are


Deputy Noel

Deputy Reed

Constable Vibert

Constable Murphy

Deputy Hilton

Constable Yates

Senator Ferguson

Constable Butcher

Constable Gallichon

Constable Refault

Senator Shenton

Senator Cohen

Senator Perchard

Senator Mclean

Chef Minister Le Suer

Senator Le Main

Senator Routier

Senator Ozouf

Senator I le Marquand


The reason this list is not longer is that many members thought it was right to vote for part (v) of the proposition which for them was a safe part. They will be exposed next as they are as culpable as the ones below
















51 comments:

Anonymous said...

Part v was the, always easy option of: "learn by our mistakes, move on and hindsight is wonderful.

Saying yes to part v is a complete cop out and their sad and corrupt style.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of Constables!

Anonymous said...

Glad my kids are grown up if i lived outside of this corrupt island i would NEVER bring my kids here on holiday they almost promote child abuse.

Ian Evans said...

CORRUPTION:

“Corruption never has been compulsory”

“In all institutions from which the cold wind of open criticism is excluded, an innocent corruption begins to grow like a mushroom - for example, in senates and learned societies”

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."


“Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation (of power) first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence”

“If vice and corruption prevail, liberty cannot subsist; but if virtue have the advantage, arbitrary power cannot be established”

“He that suffers the slightest breach in his morality can seldom tell what shall enter it, or how wide it shall be made; when a passage is open, the influx of corruption is every moment wearing down opposition, and by slow degrees deluges the heart”

Anonymous said...

Are we expecting a bit much of the above mentioned, to have any idea of what the Napier report does show as opposed to what TLS would led them to believe.

The vote tells me all I need to know.

Not up to the job.

Anonymous said...

This post of Ricos should be printed out and handed to co-workers etc.

Any person could see it was a non contentious vote.

Considering tax payers funded this Napier report it is, in the interest of public to know whether Constable Deputies and Senators take notice of reports the States of Jersey commission.

Or as the voting shows the report is not worth paper it was commissioned on.

Anonymous said...

A number of the politicians here are up for election next year and THEY SHALL BE REMEMBERED

Anonymous said...

It would seem Bob Hills proposition simply requests a report of actions TLS will take as a result of the Napier Report?

Am I right in believing the above named would not support this proposition?

Am I nuts. What am I missing?

Anonymous said...

This has got to be the worst attempt of child abuse cover up in history and there are many in the jersey goverment that will and are being exposed. Keep up the great work Rico.

Ian Evans said...

If Brian Napier QC, has anything about him, he will be returning to the island promptly to give a 'FREE' Consultation to the public who have paid his wages!

rico sorda said...

Senator Ferguson missed the first vote as she was on the toilet looking for the constitution, she make up for it with 6 straight contres.

What excuse can those 18 have for voting the way they did. On such an important proposition the only ones who spoke were TLS & ILM and yet the others just went along with it.

This is the problem with the states and who says we don't have party politics. If they are your Deputy or if you cant believe how they voted then email them

rs

Anonymous said...

Surprised you haven't had any of the child abuse deniers leaving comments threatening your job yet rico.

Anonymous said...

OK, are we right to not trust our(?) FSLs?

Is this corruption? No.
Is this Political corruption? Yes!

Political corruption is the use of legislated powers by government officials for illegitimate private gain...?

Think about it..?!

Anonymous said...

Sarah Ferguson was having a special audience with the AG. AGAIN

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

All this in the same week as Mario Lundy being named in a Child Abuse Court case, how can our government expect us to have any trust in them?

Anonymous said...

States Employment Board

Chairman
Senator Terence Augustine Le Sueur

Vice Chairman
Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf

Members
Connétable Michael Keith Jackson
Connétable Deidre Wendy Mezbourian
Deputy Deborah Jane De Sousa

Anonymous said...

Can someone offer a reason as to why they voted against Deputy Hill's proposition. Do they not realise how this looks, why do they do it?

Anonymous said...

Rico i think this sums it up really. I hope VFC doesn't mind me putting this up from his blog.

"Deputy Tadier went into the members room during the debate. He noticed the radio was turned down and it was very difficult to hear the debate. The Deputy mentioned how low the volume was and was told by those sat in the room that they don't need to listen to it!

Just about sums it up, they vote how they are told"

So who were they?

Anonymous said...

Questions "Can someone offer a reason as to why they voted against Deputy Hill's proposition. Do they not realise how this looks, why do they do it?

Answers A resounding NO to all three.

Anonymous said...

So who were they? PAUL ROUTIER

Anonymous said...

Surely if The Jordans are found guilty of violence on children in their care. The current States of Jersey Chief Executive incharge of our Childrens Education, wellbeing and education, who was named last week in the Royal Court and in the Jersey Evening Post, as being even more violent than The Jordans.
Should be at least suspended as a neutral act?!

Anonymous said...

Common sense would tell you, that if States of Jersey commission a report from expert in his field, surely you would take heed of said report?

What is up with these people?

Deal with the issues the report highlights.

Anonymous said...

TLS should resign If he cannot act on said report why waste taxpayers money?

Report was for TLS benefit only. Financial and time wasted exercise that FSL & TLS disregard.

Anonymous said...

Shenton and Perchard well there's a surprise (not)

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Rico, in your posting, you say this:

"These States Members are a Danger to Children in Care, the reason for saying this is simple. Who now will be prepared to blow the whistle in Jersey if they see malpractice towards Children. Do these States members not recognise the magnitude of what they are doing?"

"These States members are a danger to children".

Sometimes I'm too verbose in my postings, and should try and be more economical with words.

I shall remember what you have written above as a guiding example.

One couldn't ask for a simpler - more solid - more honest - statement of the plain fact.

Those States members are - indeed - a danger to children.

And, to answer your question, no, they don't recognise the magnitude of what they're doing.

I think one of the most terrifying things about these people is the complete lack of self-awareness. You could use them as a case-study of Groupthink at work.

These are people who think wearing expensive clothes, being terribly "polite", and going to church occasionally makes them good human beings.

As another reader said:

"This has got to be the worst attempt of child abuse cover up in history and there are many in the jersey government that will and are being exposed."

I was recently a political prisoner of Jersey's corrupt oligarchy. When in the island's prison I spoke to a number of the inmates. To a man, of those I spoke with, it could be said they were 'honest' villains, so to speak, in that those who were guilty knew they had been doing wrong.

The contrast with the average States member is profound.

I can't help but feel that when the truth inevitable outs - a more terrible and damning fate awaits - one way or another - those Jersey politicians.

Stuart.

Anonymous said...

Reed whos in charge of education & all OUR children,have some bottle & stand senators election next time so we can ALL ask you questions @ hustings you wimp.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Copied from Facebook.

CHILD SAYS 2 HIS MOM 'MOMMY I COLOURED UR BED SHEETS WITH UR
LIPSTICK' IN ANGER SHE STARTS 2 HIT HER CHILD UNCONSCIOUS SHE THEN REGRETS WHAT SHE HAS DONE & CRYING SHE SAYS 2 HER CHILD 'PLS OPEN UREYES'...BUT ITS 2 LATE, HIS LITTLE HEART HAS STOPPED BEATING. WHEN SHE WALKS INTO THE BEDROOM THE SHEET SAYS 'MOMMY I LOVE U'

Anonymous said...

Same old politicians 'shafting Jersey' again!

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Rico, for stating that these States Members are a danger to children in care, and an equally big thanks to Stuart for reminding us that the resulting future for children will be both simple and horrific, as it has been for decades. Who can argue against this statement when we have seen the same pattern of demonization of whistleblowers time and again? All these abuse cover up officials can say for themselves is that it is time for everyone to move on, in the hopes good people will ignore the heartbreaking reality of abuse being supported instead of reported, as a cultural hallmark of Jersey.

Anonymous said...

The above named members are playing the public for fools.

People hate being conned. We are being, these members who could not even vote fairly on a proposition proposed by Deputy Hill.

A simple straight forward proposition asking for the Chief Minister to give a report on his findings re the Napier report.

The very report of which TLS would lead local media and the public to believe he has put his faith in. The very expertise of reputable Mr. Napier.

rico sorda said...

I believe this blog posting is hitting home with people for one reason, there is no excuse for the way they voted. They have let personality politics get in the way of sound judgement and that has got to be a worry for all of us.

I don't set out to single people out or victimise them I look at the facts & evidence look at how they vote then question it. Our politicians have had it easy for far to long.

It has got to change now

The silent ones will be up next. Yes, we know who you are

rs

Anonymous said...

The big question is, why did so many deputies vote against every single item within the proposition. I find it totally shocking!.

The only explanation I can find to explain so such crass stupidity, is that, they must doing what they are told, but by whom? I assume many will have been forced to comply, by undue, undemocratic pressure, perhaps even 'blackmailed' or led to believe nasty things will happen to them, even being set up for a fall. It just has to something to do with the above, why else, would so many leave their brains behind!! (what little some have got)

Anonymous said...

Your posts read like they are riddled with paranoia. I cannot share this worried approach you seem to have, its far to over reactive.

Anonymous said...

What right do the voters have to see a report from the Chief Minister?

One to show the public how TLS has dealt with the issues raised in the Napier report.

Oh no no no we can't have that. They are the public we are States Members.

1. NO
2. NO
3. NO
4. NO
5. NO
6. NO
7. NO
8. NO
9. NO
10.NO
11.NO
12.NO
13.NO
14.NO
15.NO
16.NO
17.NO
18.NO

Zoompad said...

"Anonymous said...
Your posts read like they are riddled with paranoia. I cannot share this worried approach you seem to have, its far to over reactive. "

Hee hee, talk about pot calling the kettle black, this poster is too paranoid and scared to put their name to their post!

Rico, its great what you have done here, its one of your best posts, take no notice of anonymous criticism.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

This was sent to me taken from Tony's Musings some time ago. Perhaps Tony could give us a link to the page?

It shows how the same old tripe gets peddled out and that nothing really changes and lessons DO NOT GET LEARNT.

"An obvious recommendation comes when we see what Senator Mike Vibert said about the report by Robert Upex which was critical of the dismissal of Simon Bellwood:

Senator Mike Vibert from the States Employment Board told Channel Online: "What the Professor Upex report shows us is that we need to be better versed in the Jersey employment law. We need to train our managers and our human resources staff much better so they understand all the ramifications of the law because we weren't good enough, we didn't follow the law exactly and that's something we must do in future."

Clearly lessons have not been learnt!"

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Forgot to ask. Have you been contacted yet by any of the politicians named in this posting?

They are forever going on (falsely) that Blogs offer them no right of reply. You have invited them to reply and given them your e-mail address.

So any of them willing to defend their position yet?

Anonymous said...

I remember a post about Routier and Hilton being prepare to take a risk. Do you think you could find it for us.Thanks

Anonymous said...

Rico, the photos you put up are hilarious. The Shenton / Cohen combo is inspired. Wouldnt want to bump into them on a dark night! Jesus!

rico sorda said...

"Your posts read like they are riddled with paranoia. I cannot share this worried approach you seem to have, its far to over reactive."

Hi ya Anon

Now I said I wouldn't post anymore of your comments, seeing as you have your own blog. Lets give you a chance.

Why Paranoia? Just the facts dude.

Come put your case across with some backed up evidence

rs

Anonymous said...

I can see one reason why the dirty dozen or so members voted against Mr. Le Sueur providing a report as to the points laid out.

That would be to protect Mr. Le Sueur. They have heard time and time again Mr. Le Sueur unable to provide facts in any shape or form to those who have questioned him repeatedly.

They have heard time and time again Mr. Le Sueur unable to provide a shred of evidence that he so freely and publicly alludes to yet we have still not seen to this day.

If Mr. Le Sueur is unable to provide evidence verbally, then what chance would he have in written form. Not a cat in hells chance.

They are providing Mr. Le Sueur his escape. No more no less all imo

rico sorda said...

Team Voice will be looking at the voting on

P182/2009 P9/2010 and P166/2010

All these propositions were looking for the truth and all were defeated. We will be checking the voting and looking at who continually votes against Truth, Honesty and Integrity

rs

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Rico

VFC asks have any of the politicians named and shamed above, contacted you yet for the right to reply?

Well, have any of them?

As many of them read nothing except The Rag - and don't even read the official reports which are supposed to inform their governance of us - I think it probable that few - if any - will have read the blogs.

Could I suggest that the posting and associated comments gets cut and pasted into an e-mail to all of them - with a pro-active invitation for each of them to respond?

The Jersey Evening Post only rarely ever contacts non-establishment people, to offer them a right of reply when they've been attacked by the oligarchy. So far from citizen media being some kind of unreasonable environment - you'd be offering these people far more of a fair hearing than the local mainstream media does 98% of the time.

How many of those States members would - or could - produce a cogent and calm and credible explanation for their voting preference?

Who knows? One or two might even surprise us.

But I'm not holding my breath.

Stuart.

rico sorda said...

Hi Stuart

So far Nothing

The reason I put the contact up was to show them that they have a chance of reply. This Blog is under my name. I stand by what I say and it's done on the back of a load of research that sometimes totally does my head in but must be done.


Tomorrow more will be going up.

This lot escaped the "First Team" because they voted for part (v)

Now make no mistake, what im building here is "TEAM ESTABLISHMENT"

What the readers of Team Voice will see appear over the coming days and weeks is the morally, socially, inept Team Establishment.

A selection of Deputies, Constables and Senators who vote not on hard reasoned debate or even on hard evidenced facts but bow to the wish of the one they call the "Fixer"

We will then look at how these members have voted on all the issues concerning the welfare of Jerseys children.

Then we Email all of them and ask them WHY?

rs

rico sorda said...

One of the major areas I want to have a look at is the Law Office. In the coming weeks I want to track down Mr Advice

Chief Minister TLS= Getting Advice

Home Affairs Minister= Getting Advice

Former Home Affairs Minister Andrew Lewis= Getting Advice

Chief Executive Teflon Bill Ogley= Getting Advice

I have probably missed some out but everyone is getting advice. Who is giving them the advice? is it one man steering the Good Ship Advice ?

Who is it?

My Guess WB

Anonymous said...

how come a body gets washed up in jersey and no one knows who he is. No name, no missing person reported. a man who has lived a long life can disapear and no one repots him missing. Interpol and others have looked and still no one knows.

Now lets remember HdelaG. there cant be any child murder because no one has been reported missing. Well the above shows just how easy it is to disapear and not be missed.

A child with no family and brought here from the UK. Say no more. The Blogs are a lifeline

Zoompad said...

"A child with no family and brought here from the UK"

But they did make records, very detailed ones. Every child that was placed at Haut de la Garenne has a paper trail. So where are the records then? Why are the police not investigating those records?

Re the Staffordshire Pindown abuse - sorry to keep harping on about it, but its the one I know. When the children's torture chambers, sorry, homes were investigated, the Social Service dept had all the records. Why did the police not try to contact all the people who had been put into those places? It could have been easily done, and then all the people who were put into care could have given an account of how they had been treated. They made no effort to trace us, and I find that really very disturbing, it was as if they did the bare minimum to investigate the abuse, in a really half hearted way. It seems to be impossible for the victims of the Pindown System to get hold of the inquiry report, and that is a really big punch in the face, it ought to be available online, why can't the people whe were missed out of the investigation because they did not realise there was an investigation have a copy of this report? Its just cover up cover up cover up, and all this covering up ever does is to help people who have committed dispicable crimes on children to get away with it and do it again and again.

They have records of all those children, unless they have already burnt them, which would not surprise me in the slightest.

Anonymous said...

I doubt you will hear from any of our elected reps named above.

Inexcusable behaviour.

rico sorda said...

Please excuse me but I forgot to add Senator ILM to my list. How could I forget him lol that now makes it 19

rs

Zoompad said...

Plenty of pictures of that boggle eyed hypocrite to choose from!

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

A follow up