Monday, December 27, 2010

Ciao Ciao David Warcup



David Warcup


( Operation Rose- Northumbria England )

( Operation Rectangle- Jersey)

Both Child Abuse Cover-ups





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... the primary reasons for leaving are due to the political hostility which has been directed towards me, the attacks on my personal integrity and the resultant delays in securing my appointment”
David WarcupActing Police Chief

"In recent months there has been a concerted effort to challenge my integrity and to postpone my appointment.
"...the primary reasons for leaving are due to the political hostility which has been directed towards me, the attacks on my personal integrity and the resultant delays in securing my appointment."

After hearing of Mr Warcup's decision, Home Affairs Minister Senator Ian Le Marquand, told the States he was "extremely disappointed that the delay and subsequent politicisation of the process" had resulted in his decision to leave Jersey Police.
He described him as a man of "integrity with a deep understanding of policing in all aspects" and said he was "extremely saddened" at the loss of an "extremely able and committed officer" whom he believed would have lead Jersey Police to become a "more effective police force".

Senator Le Marquand forgets he must remain neutral and impartial - No surprise there




Dave Warcup

On this blog posting, the last of 2010, I will be looking at the departure of Acting Chief of Police, David Warcup.  I will be paying particular attention to the interview given by David Warcup to Diane Simon of the Jersey Evening Post and the official press release by the States of Jersey Police ("SOJP") of the closing down of Operation Rectangle (the Historic Child Abuse Investigation (the "Investigation")).

I have been amazed at the ease with which the Investigation has been closed down; one press statement and no one asking any questions.  I have been taking a look at the figures released by the SOJP and I find it absolutely staggering that none of the local media outlets have asked any questions to challenge this decision or asked for any sort of clarification about the figures released.  It has seemingly just been a case of "here are the figures chaps.  Must go.  Kettle's on"; as simple as that.

What I would like my readers to do when looking at the figures and statistics below is not to see them as just numbers and percentages.  The reason I say this is because what I think is being forgotten is the human element behind the figures and what they therefore represent.  Every percentage and every number has a story behind it and it is this that fires me up and keeps me focussed in the pursuit of justice.  There are still many victims out there who have not received justice and perpetrators continue to escape it.  It is, however, the victims that must be remembered to avoid them becoming only a statistic.  Look at the staggering number of statements, victims and perpetrators being investigated.  I do not think anyone can underestimate the scale of the work being undertaken by SOJP under the leadership of Graham Power, Lenny Harper and his team.

Now, as we look back over this year, the one thing that really sticks in my mind is: what the hell went wrong in Jersey between the 1940s right up to 2008.  Make no mistake.  There was physical, sexual and mental abuse happening for decades in institutions run on behalf of the States of Jersey and nothing was ever done about it.  Are we expected to believe that, through these decades, no complaints were made to people in authority, the police or even the parish priest that there were serious crimes taking place in these care homes.  What happened under Graham Power and Lenny Harper was a turning point for Jersey.  No more was there going to be a culture of concealment and turning a blind eye to decades of institutional child abuse.  For the first time there was hope that the victim's voices would be heard and allowed to be heard.  This very action was what put the establishment on the back foot, because for the first time it was being taken out of their control.  Rather than shying away and not being prepared to deal with it the issue was instead forced upon them.  We all know what happened next.  This, I believe, also ties in with the dismissal of the Health and Social Services Minister, the former Senator Stuart Syvret in 2007.  As you will remember, this was before Operation Rectangle had become public knowledge and why his order of justice will become a hot cookie in January 2011.  The establishment are being forced into situations they never dreamt were possible. This will only continue as long as former Senator Stuart Syvret has the determination and energy to fight them all the way.  For this he needs support as it is about good governance, truth, honesty and integrity. And, not forgetting  Something  that has made me laugh constantly for the last three weeks... SWORN AFFIDAVITS.

So, David Warcup, the Acting Chief of Police, comes across as the victim.  Yes, you just could not make it up.  Make no mistake.  There are many questions that have been left unanswered concerning David Warcup, the Met Interim Report, a letter to teflon Bill and the suspension of the Former Chief of Police, Graham Power.  The Napier Report was an excellent report, in my opinion, albeit a bit hard to follow at times.  Is it again just a coincidence that David Warcup hands in his resignation when the first draft of the Napier Report is released to the Deputy Chief Executive, John Richardson?  Are we seriously meant to believe that the Acting Chief of Police cannot handle comments about his conduct on blog sites?  Make no mistake, again, we use as many evidence based facts as we can and try to minimise conjecture.  The evidence would indicate that everything was not rosy in the garden of Warcup.  Here is a man who has done very well from his two years in Jersey and handed his notice in at just the right time to ensure his pension was unaffected. As I lay out below you can see that  he has done ok during his career.


Anger over pay-out for top cop David Warcup

Sep 21 2008 Sunday Sun

A POLICE chief has come under fire after it was revealed he retired with a £300,000 lump sum . . . and walked straight into another top job.
David Warcup was deputy chief constable of Northumbria Police before he retired earlier this year at the age of 50.
He has since taken over as deputy chief constable in Jersey, where his role includes heading a high-profile investigation into alleged abuse at a children’s home.
Mr Warcup is in line to become the island’s chief constable in just over a year.
But it has been revealed that he has received a lump sum of around £300,000 from Northumbria Police.
Mr Warcup is also receiving £60,000 a year from his old force as part of his retirement package. The pension — which lasts for the rest of his life — represents half of the £120,000-a-year he received from Northumbria.
It is being paid on top of the £100,000-a-year he receives from the States of Jersey Police.
Due to the fact that the island is a tax-haven, he only pays 20 per cent on his Jersey police salary.
In the year before he retired, Mr Warcup also received an undisclosed share of a £47,000 bonus split between Northumbria’s five chief officers.



So, as you can see, David Warcup is doing OK.




As I finish this last blog posting of 2010, we must ask ourselves: What did David Warcup and Mick Gradwell bring to Operation Rectangle.  What has become abundantly clear is that they did not have the support of the vast majority of abuse victims who, in fact, only had the highest praise for the Power/Harper handling of the Investigation. We have heard that the press conference of 12 November 2008 was held so that the contemplated abuse of process would not jeopardise impending cases, but having looked at the cases brought before the court, and bearing in mind that I am in no way a legal expert, I cannot really see how the abuse of process became such an issue.  The abusers who had connections with HDLG were Michael Aubin, Gordon Wateridge and the Jordans.  Are we now to believe that the other abusers would not have received a fair trial seeing, also, that they had no connection with Jersey care homes.  All abuse is bad and must be punished, but we also must look at who has been convicted, where the abuse took place, what connection they have, if any, to the Jersey care homes and then we must seriously reconsider the statistics.  Something  has gone wrong... AGAIN.

What I say now is hard to put across but I like to call it how I see it.  The people charged in connection with the Investigation do not stack up compared to the statistics.  What have Donnelly, Vandenborn and Thorne to do with Jersey care homes?  

Michael Aubin was a child at HDLG and although what he did was inexcusable his story is a tragic one; let down by the States of Jersey and punished for it.


first conviction in abuse investigation
Aubin, the first person to be convicted as part of the ongoing police investigation into historic child abuse on the island, was a resident at Haut de la Garenne from the age of three.

Aubin was abuse victim
On deciding his sentence, the prosecution took into account Aubin's own sexual abuse by adults and accepted that he had grown up without parental affection. The court heard he had suffered serious sexual abuse at the children's home himself.
Defending, Aubin's counsel David Hopwood said Aubin had been "brutalised" by emotional neglect and sexual abuse in his early life. He added that the care authorities must "bear some responsibility."
Aubin was arrested in May last year and has spent the last 19 months in custody.
Response
Alan Collins, a Portsmouth-based solicitor who has acted on behalf of some of the victims involved in the investigation, said the prosecution and sentencing of Aubin was a "vindication" for them.
He said:“The outcome today puts paid to any belief that all was OK at Haut de la Garenne because clearly it was not.
"What happened is tragic for all those involved and, hopefully minds will now turn to how best to make amends to the victims. Many still suffer, considerably, as a result of what they had to endure and I am seeking compensation for those who hav


I believe the Jordans, although scum bag abusers, were also sacrificed to bolster the numbers.  How convenient that they came from outside of the Island.  Yes, when we look at these stats and figures there is yet a further major investigation that needs to take place.

What of the people who ran HdelaG? Look at those Stats. Where are the Senior Managers? Who had political responsibility for HdelaG? 

I believe in my opinion that the high level ones are being protected. Just say that two alleged persons who were into battering children managed to pass right through the Jersey Education System and landed the Top Jobs, not 1 but 2. You see how would the authorities explain that one? simple don't bother.  

I would like to thank everyone who has supported Team Voice and me.  I started my blog in April of this year hoping that one or two people might take the time to read it.  I have been absolutely amazed and dumbfounded by the extent of my readership.  It has left me shocked.  Writing this blog has been an emotional rollercoaster.  The amount of work and research that goes into these postings is unimaginable, but absolutely worth doing.  Thank you for your support.  2011 promises to be an even bigger year.  All I want is good governance, truth, honesty and integrity.  I want Terry Le Sueur exposed as misleading the house at the next States sitting and, as for Senator Ian Le Marquand the former magistrate, who cannot spot an injustice even when carrying it out himself, there will be no let up in 2011.

To all the abuse survivors.  We will never stop exposing the truth.


Happy New Year.


Rico Sorda




The Interview of David Warcup

( Hankies at the ready. This is one serious Tear Jerker )

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The Media Release of Operation Rectangle




Warcup article.

Jersey Evening Post, 21st December, 2010.
Introduction. 

RETIRED acting police chief David Warcup has said that if he had not raised concerns about the historical child abuse inquiry it is unlikely that there would have been any convictions.
 
In his view, If a press conference had not taken place refuting claims of possible child murders at Haut de la Garenne, lawyers representing those accused of child abuse might successfully have claimed that their clients could not get a fair trial. 

Speaking last week before he left the force on Friday after deciding that he no longer wanted to be police chief, Mr Warcup said that the actions he took were the right and proper thing to do.
 
‘I recognise that if I had not taken this action the prosecution of offenders alleged to have been responsible for serious child offences would not have succeeded,’ he said. 

In the interview on page 12, Mr Warcup also says that if there had been police authority in the Island when he was raising these concerns with former police chief Graham Power, the situation would not have escalated in the way it did. 

Mr Warcup was the victim of stinging criticism on some blogs, which he has described as ‘totally unfounded allegations’. 

‘Serious consideration should be given in Jersey and the UK to how to deal with unfounded allegations made on the internet which could be distressing for those concerned.’ he said. 


Warcup JEP Interview, page 12.


WHEN David Warcup stood in the Royal Court in August 2008 and took the oath of office as the acting police chief he was full of expectation about what lay ahead. 

The former deputy chief constable of Northumbria Police and his family had sold their home there in the belief that they would be settling in the Island. 

With 32 years of policing experience behind him, Mr Warcup had been led to expect when he was appointed in the acting post that he would take over from police chief Graham Power on his retirement. ‘I considered it to be a new stage in my career,’ he said, ‘and came to Jersey anticipating that I would be carrying out the job for a number of years.’ 

What actually happened was a far cry from his positive expectations. Last week he left the States police after deciding that he no longer wanted the top job. ‘I have not fulfilled my ambition because of matters outside my control,’ he said. 

Mr Warcup said that even before he took up his post he realised, through reports and comments in the media, that there were concerns about the historical child abuse inquiry. Within a few weeks of arriving in the island he became aware, by speaking to people inside and outside the force, of public concern about the way in which the inquiry was being run.
One of the major problems in intervening was that any criticism of the supervision of the inquiry including the handling of the media by former deputy police chief Lenny Harper, was implied criticism of Mr Power, who was his boss. 

Mr Warcup believed that some lurid reports in the national media of possible child murders at Haut de La Garenne could seriously jeopardise the prosecutions for child abuse going to trial A review of the evidence available from the inquiry including items uncovered during the excavation at the former children’s home, led him and the new senior investigating officer, Det Supt Mick Gradwell, to believe that no such crimes had taken place 

‘The more information I gathered and examined, the more I realised that there were issues which needed addressing,’ he said. 

At that time, some States Members and others were also calling into question the handling of the inquiry. Mr Warcup faced the problem of persuading Mr Power that the public should be informed of the truth, and that the risk of the prosecution cases collapsing had to be reduced.
‘I could have made life easy for myself and turned a blind eye, but because of my values I couldn’t do that,’ he said. ‘In all my years of policing I have never walked away from a difficult situation, but this was one of the most challenging I have faced.’ 

The Attorney General, William Bailhache, was among those who raised concerns about the police’s media strategy during the inquiry and its possible prejudicial effects on forthcoming prosecutions. 

MR Warcup unsuccessfully tried to persuade Mr Power that a press conference ought to be staged to put the record straight. ‘It remains a disappointment to me that I couldn’t resolve that situation with Mr. Power and find an appropriate way forward, he said. 

It was when Mr Warcup received an interim report from the Metropolitan police which questioned the handling of the inquiry that he put pen to paper.  Asked by States chief executive Bill Ogley to produce a report detailing his concerns, Mr Warcup expressed them in a letter to him which was received two days before Mr Power was suspended. That suspension took place on the same day that Mr Warcup and Mr Gradwell led a press conference refuting claims that child murders could have taken place. 

An independent report by the Wiltshire Constabulary seriously criticised Mr Power’s supervision of the inquiry - the biggest policing operation in the island in living memory - and recommended that he should face disciplinary action. 

Mr Warcup believes that raising his concerns about the inquiry and staging the press conference to refute claims of child murders were the right and proper things to do. ‘I recognise that if I had not taken this action, the prosecution of offenders alleged to have been responsible for serious child offences would not have succeeded he said. 

Several months after that press conference, some defence lawyers unsuccessfully argued In the Royal Court that because of lurid media stories about the case, there had been abuse of process. 

In Mr Warcup’s view it would have been a travesty if those prosecutions had not gone ahead. ‘Fortunately all the lurid claims were addressed at the police conference, the prosecutions went ahead and justice was gained for a number of victims,’ he said. 

With the inquiry ending with just seven convictions for child abuse out of a total of 192 victims being identified during police inquiries, Mr Warcup said he realised that some abuse victims would be disappointed that those who assaulted them had not been prosecuted. ‘The small number of prosecutions reflects similar cases in the UK, where there have also been very few people brought to justice following a major historical child abuse inquiry’ he said. 

Problems faced in these investigations he said, included the need to secure enough evidence for a prosecution to go ahead, and the lengthy time which had passed since the alleged offenses took place. ‘It is essential for an effective criminal justice system that the proper standards of assessment of evidence are applied’, he said. 

With Mr Power remaining suspended d until he retired in the summer, Mr Warcup took on the reins of the force during that difficult time. 

But after two years of running the force in an acting role, Mr Warcup no longer wanted to be appointed as police chief. He attributes the decision to the uncertainty over whether his appointment as police chief would be confirmed. While that went on. he was unable to buy a house in the island. ‘It was a very upsetting period which was clearly affecting my personal life, he said. 

He was taken aback by criticism by some States Members about his involvement in Mr Power's suspension, although he had the full support of Home Affairs Minister Ian be Marquand, who believed he should become police chief. 

Mr Warcup said that policing could be challenging and that it was important to receive a broad mandate to do the job. ‘It became clear that not all States members supported me in becoming police chief. Although It was a small group, that situation could have made my tenure very difficult,’ he said. 

He added that he respected the right of politicians to challenge public servants and call them to account, but in some cases those people did not have the right of reply he said. 

Mr Warcup was the victim of stinging comments on some Internet blogs about his role In Mr Power's suspension.  ‘In some public-service roles you must have broad shoulders, but in this case my integrity was being called into question by totally unfounded suggestions and allegations’ he said. 

In his view, serious consideration needed to be given in Jersey and the UK in how to deal with unfounded allegations made on the Internet which could be very distressing for those concerned. It is wrong to treat people in this way particularly those who are not in a position to defend themselves.’
 
Mr Warcup said that had there been a police authority in the island when he had faced the dilemma about what to do about his concerns over the inquiry the situation could have been prevented from escalating so much.
‘A police authority which has the trust of the public and able to challenge the force over how they are delivering policing to the community would have examined the concerns being raised in some areas’ he said. 

Mr Warcup’s role in Mr Power’s suspension came in for some criticism from employment law expert Brian Napier QC in his report on the way It was carried out. Mr Napier said, however, that Mr Warcup had found himself in an extraordinarily difficult situation and was genuinely concerned to do the right thing. 

Mr Warcup absolutely rejects Mr Napier’s criticism, saying that he failed to raise issues he mentioned in the report to him during their three hour discussion, and did not make clear in his report exactly what he meant by his criticism. 

‘I don’t think the Napier report is a complete assessment of the full circumstances which existed at the time, or that Mr Napier was in possession of all of the facts,’ Mr Warcup said.
He counts among his achievements while in the post as working with acting deputy police chief Barry Taylor to introduce an improved system of succession planning and leadership training. There had also been improved efficiency in managing calls from the public, more effective use of resources, and levels of crime had dropped. And public satisfaction of police services, shown in surveys, remained high, he said.
Mr Warcup’s experience of life in Jersey has been far from totally negative, however and he has enjoyed many of the other challenges which his job brought with it. 

‘I hope I have left a positive legacy and a platform on which the new police chief can build a force,’ he said. He also has a fondness for the island which he regards as a safe and pleasant place in which to live.  Returning with his wife to the northeast of England, he will be seeking a new role outside policing and from time to time, they intend to come back to the island to visit friends they have made here. 



PRESS RELEASE
OPERATION RECTANGLE 


Following the conclusion of the trial involving Morag and Tony Jordan, the States of Jersey Police confirm that there are no further Court cases outstanding in relation to the historical abuse enquiry, known as Operation Rectangle carried out by the force between September, 2007 and December, 2010.  

The completion of this case marks the end of a thorough and detailed enquiry into allegations of historical abuse within the child care system in Jersey during the period from 1941 to 2009.

The scope of the enquiry, the details of which are set out below, dealt with offences committed in children’s homes, institutions and private residences within the Island.  A major part of the enquiry focused on matters at the former children’s home Haut de la Garenne, where enquiries covered the period between 1960 to 1986, when the home closed.

During the lifetime of Operation Rectangle:

1,776 statements were taken. 

9,874 documents were collated during the enquiry, with 4,620 exhibits seized.  

533 offences were reported and recorded under the National Crime Recording Standards. Under these standards, one offence is recorded for either a single offence or series of similar offences against one victim by the same alleged offender. 

Of the total of 533 offences, 274 were alleged sexual offences; 238 were offences of assault, ill-treatment or neglect, 17 were offences of Grave and Criminal Assault and there were four other offences. 

315 offences were reported as being committed at Haut de la Garenne; 66 at other homes or institutions and 152 at places where children were fostered or in private addresses. 

43% of all offences allegedly committed at Haut de la Garenne were sexual offences. 84% of all offences in foster care or private residences were sexual offences.

Eight people (seven men and one woman) have been charged and tried before the Courts in Jersey with seven successful prosecutions resulting from these cases. 

The eight people were prosecuted for a total of 145 offences (27%).  

As a result of the complaints received, 151 named offenders were identified, 41 other offenders were not identified.

A total of 192 individual victims were identified.

30 of the named offenders were identified as having died before the enquiry was undertaken.

The total policing costs of the Historical Abuse Enquiry to date is £7,574,636, of which £5,088,328 is staff costs and £2,486,308 comprising non-staff costs (e.g. accommodation, travel and forensic costs).

Where appropriate, legal advice was obtained to determine if there was sufficient evidence to justify proceedings.

In recent months, the investigating team has also undertaken a detailed and thorough re-examination of all of the evidence to ensure that there were no potential lines of enquiry which remained outstanding. 

David Warcup, Acting Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police, said: “Investigations of this nature are particularly difficult and protracted, especially for the victims, and officers have worked hard to ensure that the needs of victims have been met. Every allegation or complaint has been given full and proper consideration and all possible lines of enquiry have been pursued.

“At this point in time, there is no evidence from which it would be possible to mount any further prosecutions.

“Should evidence become available then the force will review this to determine what, if any, further action should be taken.

The States of Jersey Police will continue to investigate all allegations of abuse, whether historical or current, thoroughly and sensitively. The force has highly skilled, specialist officers trained in this area of work, and the States of Jersey Police remain committed to bringing offenders to justice.”

The NCRS is the method by which forces record crime to ensure standardisation throughout the UK and Channel Islands.  Under these rules, if a victim is repeatedly subjected to the same offence by the same offender it counts only as one offence for recording purposes. However, if an independent person commits a second crime, then this should be counted separately. The test to be applied in respect of recording a crime is that of the balance of probabilities i.e. is the incident more likely than not the result of a criminal act? In most cases, the belief by the victim (or person reasonably assumed to be acting on behalf of the victim) that a crime has occurred is sufficient to justify its recording, although this will not be the case in all circumstances. 

In a number of cases victims were unable to clarify or recall how many times they had been subject to violence or assault.



 In some cases there is the potential the persons unidentified were the same persons as a named offenders.


I thought I would post this little Video of the Two Marches we held. These were great days and so worth it.  '

" What do we want, Justice When do we want it Now "




I will let Lenny Harper have the last word

David Warcup is way off the mark. According to the victims/survivors police stopped working hard to ensure the needs of the victims were being met as soon as he arrived and engineered the constructive fit up, sorry, suspension of Graham Power. Now the officers working on the enquiry were substantially the same as those who had drawn such praise from the victims in the preceding months. Nothing changed except the two in charge, the very same two whose spatial awareness led to them mistaking seven foot cellars for floor voids and getting the wrong dates on important letters, not to mention of course missing important bits of the so called Met interim report. It doesn't take much to guess why looking after the interests of the abuse victims suddenly diminished in importance. Lenny Harper



157 comments:

Ian Evans said...

Jersey's CORRUPTION exposed!

Zoompad said...

"Now the officers working on the enquiry were substantially the same as those who had drawn such praise from the victims in the preceding months. "

YES! A couple of bad apples truly can turn the whole barrel sour.

Anonymous said...

43% of all offences allegedly committed at Haut de la Garenne were sexual offences. 84% of all offences in foster care or private residences were sexual offences.

Do you think the lack of prosecutions could be a financial one? Personally i hope not especially when you see the figures laid out above.

Ian Evans said...

Rico says

"What I would like my readers to do when looking at the figures and statistics below is not to see them as just numbers and percentages. The reason I say this is because what I think is being forgotten is the human element behind the figures and what they therefore represent."

So spot on Rico, and a fabulous posting mate.

And speaking of due praise, just look who SKIPPY LE MARQUAND is heaping praise on!!!

Stuart's phrase "you just couldn't make this up" will be immortalized by Jersey's imbeciles.

All the very best for the new year you guy's xxx

Anonymous said...

Great post Rico
Have a rest and gather strenghth for next year, Its going to be a BIGGY

Anonymous said...

Yes, Sir. He clearly did leave Jersey a safer and more pleasant place for abusers and their protectors. He was hired to do so and that is his true legacy.

rico sorda said...

"Mr Warcup believed that some lurid reports in the national media of possible child murders at Haut de La Garenne could seriously jeopardise the prosecutions for child abuse going to trial"

Christ why the need for such a big press conference when the AG was dropping cases left right and centre. I mean only 4 people from Jersey Care Homes were prosecuted and one of them was an alleged victim himself. The Big press conference on the 12th November 2008 was essential for one reason only and that was the Suspension of Graham Power.

Where is the evidence that alleged abusers would not get a fair trial? What was this based on. This is what Warcup says in his interview

‘I recognise that if I had not taken this action, the prosecution of offenders alleged to have been responsible for serious child offences would not have succeeded he said"

How does he know that? Can someone shed some light on this.

Again I find this statement quite strange and one that has been peddled by the Establishment paper the JEP for sometime now

"Mr Warcup said that even before he took up his post he realised, through reports and comments in the media, that there were concerns about the historical child abuse inquiry. Within a few weeks of arriving in the island he became aware, by speaking to people inside and outside the force, of public concern about the way in which the inquiry was being run"

"by speaking to people inside and outside the force, of public concern about the way in which the inquiry was being run"

Really, I don't remember that in August 2008

Public concern about how the Island is being run maybe?

All very strange and conjecture

rs

Anonymous said...

During the lifetime of Operation Rectangle:

1,776 statements were taken.

9,874 documents were collated during the enquiry, with 4,620 exhibits seized.

533 offences were reported and recorded under the National Crime Recording Standards. Under these standards, one offence is recorded for either a single offence or series of similar offences against one victim by the same alleged offender.

Of the total of 533 offences, 274 were alleged sexual offences; 238 were offences of assault, ill-treatment or neglect, 17 were offences of Grave and Criminal Assault and there were four other offences.

315 offences were reported as being committed at Haut de la Garenne; 66 at other homes or institutions and 152 at places where children were fostered or in private addresses.

43% of all offences allegedly committed at Haut de la Garenne were sexual offences. 84% of all offences in foster care or private residences were sexual offences.

Eight people (seven men and one woman) have been charged and tried before the Courts in Jersey with seven successful prosecutions resulting from these cases.

The eight people were prosecuted for a total of 145 offences (27%).

As a result of the complaints received, 151 named offenders were identified, 41 other offenders were not identified.

A total of 192 individual victims were identified.

30 of the named offenders were identified as having died before the enquiry was undertaken.


This brings it home and doesn't stack up against the convictions.

Anonymous said...

"That suspension took place on the same day that Mr Warcup and Mr Gradwell led a press conference refuting claims that child murders could have taken place."

How can anyone ever know that a murder never took place in any location? Inconclusive evidence of a murder is not proof no murder was committed. The way so much chilling evidence like teeth, the strange bath and especially the witness statements were handled and explained away under Warcup makes murder seem more, not less, likely. Otherwise, why would he lie about so many things? His arrogant words of certainty about what "didn't" happen there only makes him all the more suspect.

"It is wrong to treat people in this way particularly those who are not in a position to defend themselves." Ha! What can anyone possibly say to the crook who was hired to cast dispersion on Harper and Power? Without Warcup's complicity in the cover-up, Graham Power probably would have been able to more easily and more publicly publicly defend himself with indisputable evidence.

Poor little Warcup sure does seem to feel "abused" by the bloggers who question his values. How does that compare with the huge number of historic child abuse victims being told the cases are closed by a man who never welcomed their input?

Yeah, read it and weep.

Anonymous said...

Now that Warcup has creamed Northumbria and Jersey, where will he go now?

Apparently Ireland is in need of a good solid cover up merchant at the minute.

rico sorda said...

Hi Q

Thanks for the comment. Always feel free in dropping me a line wether for publication or not.

All the best for the New Year

rs

Anonymous said...

Just how much money has david warcup been making these past years. What is the deal on his jersey pension seeing as he only put in a couple of years work and then ran away once he got busted.

Anonymous said...

Gradwell and Warcup are a stain on their uniform and will forever be remembered for what they did

Anonymous said...

[He added that he respected the right of politicians to challenge public servants and call them to account, but in some cases those people did not have the right of reply he said. ]

Right of reply, perhaps Stuart Syvret will be offering Mr Warcup such a right, under oath, in court!!

Anonymous said...

Mr Warcup had his right of reply in the recent JEP interview, where did he explain why he omitted crucial caveats!!!!????

[70. No reference to the above qualifications and reservations which are contained in the Interim Report are to be found in the letter sent by Mr Warcup to Mr Ogley on 11 November.]

Anonymous said...

warcup said
"in all my years of policing i have never walked away from a difficult situation, but this was one of the most challenging i have faced"

have i got this right david,you are criticised by some local bloggers, you wait until your pension is in place, then you run

what a brave soul you are!

Anonymous said...

Yes, but TLS, ILM, Dave Warcup all say that Brian Napier got it all wrong.

And just to prove how wrong Brian Napier got it, our Chief Minister disciplined our Chief Executive. You see, with this complete and utter incompetence are people surprised at what is happening in Jersey?

Why didn't Dave Warcup mention the caveats????????

Anonymous said...

[Napier on the Met Interim Report: Yet that report was in heavily qualified terms. The report, in para. 1.1, draws the attention of the reader to the interim nature of the report, to the fact that it is concerned “to highlight initial findings and areas of concern” and that key individuals have yet to be interviewed. It expressly states that “any observations in this report may be subject to amendment.” It also makes it clear that “the cut-off date” for the review was 8 September 2008, thus excluding any conduct on the part of Mr Power after that date, and specifically anything concerned with the making of preparations for the press conference that took place on 12 November.

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So why did Warcup ignore those very important caveats, a man of such experience!, a man who has made it clear in the above interview, does not like his integrity being questioned!

I guess that letter he wrote would never have seen the light of day if Graham Power had done as obviously expected, 'resigned', hence no integrity would have been open to question, but it is and in the above interview it is not addressed. Which just goes to prove, that even when given the opportunity to 'reply', one's integrity is left tarnished!! through lack of reply!!

Anonymous said...

"in all my years of policing i have never walked away from a difficult situation, but this was one of the most challenging i have faced"

Except when a few 'bloggers' voiced their opinions of some of his actions, oh what a light weight!!

rico sorda said...

What must be explored is the Warcup/Ogley relationship.

How could it have gone so wrong between these two unless they were both in on the shameful suspension of Graham Power

And yet we have it happening again. Have lessons been learnt

Chief Minister T le Sueur

Deputy Chief Executive John Richardson.

TLS gets asked why part D of the Napier TOR were dropped

JR gives him the answer that Graham Power would fully participate in the Napier Review on a letter dated the 31st March 2010

I have proved on this blog that that is a damn lie and TLS has been left misleading the house.

This lot take me, the general public and there fellow decent politicians as complete and utter fools

Stand up and question him at the next sitting. It must be done

rs

Anonymous said...

VFC emailed Le Suer about this and posted it here. Do you know if Le Suer has replied yet?

Ian Evans said...

I wonder if WEIRDCOP has left that "only key" to the safe, for Mr Bowron?

Anonymous said...

"In recent months there has been a concerted effort to challenge my integrity and to postpone my appointment. It is apparent that no consideration was given to the impact that such actions would have on both me and my family"

What a shame Warcup never gave the same consideration to Graham Power and his family. Karma Warcup Karma.

rico sorda said...

It is my fervent hope that whoever is appointed Chief Officer of Police, is afforded the freedom and respect to enable him or her, to carry out their duties within a properly structured accountability framework without the interference which has been such a significant part of events in recent months.

It is with great disappointment that I leave the officers and staff who work for the States of Jersey Police, who despite difficult circumstances have worked with professionalism to deliver high quality policing services.

I am grateful for their support and commitment over the last 21 months as Acting Chief Officer, and I believe that together we have made significant progress in ensuring that the Force is better placed to deliver effective policing in Jersey."


I love the way that good decent politicians who could see that something wasn't right, asked all the right questions, are made out to be the bad guys in all of this..

What the hell were Teflon Bill and Senator ILM doing in trying to force the Warcup promotion through the States when there were still so many issues concerning the original suspension of Graham Power

Have Teflon Bill and Senator ILM offered and Apology to Dave Warcup????

My guess is that they all thought it would be business as usual at the tail end of 2008. Yup, the good old Jersey Way

Don't you worry Dave, all will fall into place, we run the show here. Give it a couple of months the dust will settle and then in you go.

As the months go by

Dave says, " Oi Teflon what's going on? you said I would be in, no one would be asking any questions, you said it was the Jersey Way"

But for the first time people did start asking questions

For the first time since 1940 the people of Jersey had an alternative news source. Yes the establishment propaganda machine was taking hits like never before. The truth was being exposed and the cracks were widening.

Make no mistake Blogging is making a difference

Christ you know they are getting desperate when Philip Bailhache runs for Senator in 2011

rs

rico sorda said...

Statement of David Warcup, Acting Chief Officer, States of Jersey Police - 19/07/10

"Following discussions with the Minister for Home Affairs, I have advised the Minister that I no longer wish to be considered for the post of Chief Officer, States of Jersey Police and that I will be leaving the force on 31st December 2010.

In April 2008, I was appointed as Deputy Chief Officer, with the express intention that I would progress to be the next Chief Officer when the serving Chief Officer retired, no later than December 2010. The selection process involved an assessment against the full requirement for the post of Chief Officer and was overseen by the States of Jersey Appointments Commission.

In January 2010, a further review and formal assessment process was carried out by a review panel consisting of the Minister for Home Affairs, a representative of the Appointments Commission, the Chief Executive and the Director of Human Resources.

As a result of the assessment, the panel made a strong recommendation, endorsing the proposal that I be appointed to the post of Chief Officer on the retirement of the existing post holder.
It has therefore been my reasonable expectation since April 2008, that I would succeed the Chief Officer, Mr Power, on his retirement.

I am grateful for the support of the Minister, but I have made it clear to him that the primary reasons for leaving are due to the political hostility which has been directed towards me, the attacks on my personal integrity and the resultant delays in securing my appointment.

In recent months there has been a concerted effort to challenge my integrity and to postpone my appointment. It is apparent that no consideration was given to the impact that such actions would have on both me and my family.
The role of the Chief Officer of Police has been drawn into a heavily politicised debate, the outcome of which has been the failure to secure my appointment in accordance with the previously publicised commitment in April 2008.

The unfounded accusations from a small number of people concerning my conduct during the Historical Abuse Inquiry as well accusations made relating to my role in the suspension of the Chief Officer were malicious and unfounded. The publication of reports following enquiries by Wiltshire Police, clearly vindicate my position in raising what were serious concerns regarding the conduct of the Historical Abuse Inquiry.

I believe that I have acted at every stage, honestly, as well as demonstrating courage in challenging those matters which were manifestly wrong and could have potentially prejudiced trials.

In the face of provocation and persistent attempts to undermine my authority as the Acting Chief Officer of Police, I believe that I have acted professionally, maintaining a focus on my role in ensuring that the force performed effectively, protecting the public and preventing and detecting crime. The results achieved by the force during the period in question amply demonstrate this.

I have always maintained that the police should be fully accountable, but that they should be free from political interference. It is also a basic tenet of policing that any Police force must be operationally independent if it is to deliver professional and impartial policing, but equally we can only police with the consent of the public.

The actions of a few have only served to undermine the position of the Chief Officer and therefore my mandate to carry out that role independently and effectively. On this basis I believe my ability to undertake the role of Chief Officer within the States of Jersey has been undermined to the point where it would be untenable and was therefore a significant factor in my decision not to take up the post.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

All these statements from Warcup and co. have been published, or broadcast, by the "accredited" media totally unchallenged or scrutinized. Our "accredited" media, because of the child abuse investigation have been exposed as nothing more than facilitators for our goverment propoganda. It's no wonder that Blogs are thriving, at least we do ask questions!

Anonymous said...

There is no way they could have carried off this child abuse cover up and illegal suspension of Graham Power without the help of the local mainstream media. The JEP have even managed to write a complete false history.

what-date-was-it said...

13 May 2010 - Mr Napier interviews Graham Power

?? July 2010 - First draft of the Napier report is sent out, David Warcup is a recipient!

19 July 2010 - Statement by David Warcup, Acting Chief Officer, States of Jersey Police

rico sorda said...

This is what Chief Minister Le Suer said on the 6th November 2010

"In March 2008 the Council of Ministers presented a report to the States which considered that, depending on the outcome of the criminal cases, it would be appropriate to hold a Committee of Inquiry. The Council of Ministers will now consider whether there remain any unanswered questions that require further investigation. We will discuss the matter formally in the very near future and bring forward a report to the States"

Check this bit

"The Council of Ministers will now consider whether there remain any unanswered questions that require further investigation"

Have we had many answered questions???????

How was it allowed to happen decade after decade would be a good start

Not dismissing a Health Minister who flags it up might be second

There are loads of questions and i have a good feeling that quite a lot of them are in Stuart Syvrets order of Justice paper

rs

rico sorda said...

STATES OF JERSEY


COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY: CHILDREN’S CARE HOMES


Presented to the States on 31st March 2008
by the Council of Ministers




STATES GREFFE

REPORT

The Chief Minister and the Council of Ministers have made it clear since the announcement of the police investigation into historic child abuse that all required resources will be made available to enable the investigation and any subsequent criminal proceedings to be completed effectively. At this time this must be the top priority for the Island.

It is nevertheless almost inevitable that, at the conclusion of the current criminal process, there will still be a very large number of unanswered questions about the way in which children have been cared for in Jersey in previous decades.

The Council of Ministers believes that the only way to ensure that there is total transparency in relation to this issue is for a full public inquiry to be held in due course, and the Council is hopeful that all members of the States will share this view. The most effective way to undertake any such inquiry is through a Committee of Inquiry established under the States of Jersey Law 2005.

The Council of Ministers has approved the attached draft proposition relating to this issue (see Appendix) in order to illustrate the nature and extent of the Inquiry that is envisaged. The purpose of this Report is to place the matter in the public domain. The Council does not, however, consider it would be appropriate to lodge this proposition ‘au Greffe’ until the criminal process has been completed. This would firstly be inappropriate because lodging and debating this proposition now could risk compromising the ongoing criminal process. Secondly, until that process is complete, it remains unclear exactly what questions will remain unanswered at the end of the process, and this proposition may need to be amended. It could be some time before it is possible to lodge and debate this, but the Council nevertheless believes that this should be done as soon as it becomes possible.


Council of Ministers

rico sorda said...

REPORT

Since the announcement of the police investigation into alleged historic child abuse in the Island, the Council of Ministers has made it clear that the Island’s first priority must be to give full support to the police investigation and any subsequent prosecutions to ensure that anyone found guilty of abuse can be brought to justice. The Council has also made it clear that anyone who, while not necessarily acting criminally, covered up evidence or who deliberately or negligently failed to act upon information they received will be dealt with appropriately. The Council has undertaken to ensure that all the necessary resources will be made available to achieve this objective.

In a statement made on Monday 25th February 2008, just after the discovery of the fragment of a skull at Haut de la Garenne, the Chief Minister stated that “The protection of children is our highest priority and we are totally committed to supporting the Police and Criminal Justice authorities in uncovering any historic abuse and bringing those responsible to justice. There will be no hiding place for anyone who abused children or in any way colluded with or helped to cover up that abuse. We will commit whatever resources are necessary to the investigation and any subsequent criminal cases.”

rico sorda said...

Experience in other jurisdictions that have faced similar investigations in the past has shown that there are always a large number of unanswered questions that remain at the end of the investigation and prosecution process. It is therefore probable that the future conviction of any guilty parties in Jersey will only go some small way towards answering the many questions that local residents and others outside the Island have been asking in recent weeks. These are likely to include

questions such as –

How have the Island’s children’s homes been run in recent decades?

What procedures were in place to recruit staff and how was theperformance of staff monitored? Should other steps have been taken to monitor performance?

What measures were taken to address inappropriate behaviour from staff when it was discovered, and if those measures were insufficient, what other measures should have been taken?

How did those in authority at political and officer level deal with problems that were brought to their attention?

What processes were in place to assess the performance of the homes and what action was taken as a result of any problems that were identified?

Were there any mechanisms in operation to allow children to report their concerns in safety and what action was taken if and when concerns were voiced?

The Council of Ministers believes it is essential that its undertaking to ensure that there is complete transparency in relation to these issues is translated into a firm commitment to hold a full inquiry into any unanswered questions in due course. It is, of course, the case that the inquiry will not be able to begin until the conclusion of the current police investigations and any associated prosecutions, but the Council nevertheless considers that it is important for the States to be advised now of the Council’s commitment that this inquiry should take place so that work can start as soon as possible after the conclusion of any criminal trials. There have been many comments in recent days in the international press alleging a ‘culture of secrecy’ and ‘cover-up’ in Jersey and a public commitment at this stage to hold a full transparent inquiry would demonstrate in a practical way that this is simply not the case in 2008.

rico sorda said...

The Council of Ministers believes that the inquiry should take the form of a States Committee of Inquiry established in accordance with the procedures set out in the States of Jersey Law 2005 and the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey. This would enable the States as a whole to agree the terms of reference of the inquiry and its membership. In addition, a Committee of Inquiry has the advantage of having all the powers and immunities conferred by the States of Jersey (Powers, Privileges and Immunities) (Committees of Inquiry) (Jersey) Regulations 2007 (see Appendix) which enable it to summon evidence and witnesses if necessary, and also provide protection against civil and criminal proceedings. These powers and immunities will be essential to ensure that the Committee can discover the full facts without any inhibition.

It would be premature at this stage to speculate on the precise scope of the Committee’s terms of reference, as these may depend in part on the outcome of the current police investigations. The Council is determined that nothing should be done or proposed at this time that could, in any way, prejudice the current police investigation. When it is possible to establish the Committee it will, however, be essential to ensure that the terms of reference are far-reaching so that every concern expressed and every allegation made can be fully investigated. Whilst it may be too late to right the wrongs of the past, it will be important for the people of Jersey that all relevant issues are brought out into the open so that the truth of what may have happened in recent decades can be established.

rico sorda said...

Under Standing Orders a Committee of Inquiry can be comprised of between one and 5 people and the appropriate membership will need to be considered once the precise terms of reference can be drawn up. In order to ensure a proper degree of independence, it is nevertheless almost certain that it will be necessary to appoint one or more members with appropriate professional qualifications and experience from outside the Island. The Committee will require considerable administrative support to undertake its work effectively and it would be naïve to imagine that there will not be a significant cost associated with its work. The Council nevertheless believes that this will be an essential and worthwhile use of public funds in the light of recent events.

Financial and manpower implications

As explained above it is likely to be many months, or even years, before this Committee of Inquiry can begin work and there are therefore no immediate resource implications arising from this proposition. When a further proposition is brought in due course to appoint members of the Committee and agree terms of reference, a full resource implication statement will be included, together with details of the proposed source of those resources.

rico sorda said...

And there you have it. Do they have the stomach for it? can they even allow it to happen? Does this cross over in Stuarts order of Justice?

Are we now about to see an avalanche of Affidavits in a land where they carried no wait. There are many questions that need answering the fact that the Media is an establishment 8 ball has only slowed down the process.

rs

rico sorda said...

what-date-was-it said...

13 May 2010 - Mr Napier interviews Graham Power

?? July 2010 - First draft of the Napier report is sent out, David Warcup is a recipient!

19 July 2010 - Statement by David Warcup, Acting Chief Officer, States of Jersey Police

And lets not forget what the Chief Minister told the Deputy of St Martin Bob Hill


From: Terry Le Sueur
Sent: 01 March 2010 18:23
To: Bob Hill
Cc: John Richardson (CMD)
Subject: RE: Power enquiry


Dear Bob,

Thanks for this. I am happy that you and I should have the same oversight in the selection, although technically the person to make the decision has to be the Chief Minister. However I would not want to appoint anybody with whom you were not comfortable. Fortunately we have a wide choice and I hope we can agree a name quite quickly, since I would like this work to commence a.s.a.p. I gather you could be available at lunchtime tomorrow, and would be happy if you could meet me (and John Richardson) at my office at 1.00 p.m. or shortly thereafter.
I also confirm that I am happy for you to be involved with me in reviewing the ongoing work of the commissioner, the reporting mechanism and the reports themselves, including the Final Report to be presented to the States.
I look forward to hearing your comments tomorrow lunchtime.

Terrry.

Ian Evans said...

"The Council has also made it clear that anyone who, while not necessarily acting criminally, covered up evidence or who deliberately or negligently failed to act upon information they received will be dealt with appropriately."

In "Jersey Terms" does "appropriately" mean that a pay rise is in order for members of THE JERSEY CHILD RAPE PARTY? And that they will be elevated to a higher position in the work place?

I ask simply because, nearly "ALL" those within the Jersey Government have done their utmost to surpress abusers being brought to justice! and indeed, have voted on mass with those who seek to cover up the issue of Jersey Child Abuse!

What nonesense this statement is....

Anonymous said...

It stands to reason that everything (including Napier), changed after the first draft of The Napier Report was sent out to the likes of Walker, Lewis, Ogley, Crich, Gradwell & Warcup....

If this hadn't had happened,can you image what kind of trouble they would be in now?!

Anonymous said...

Yes a valued(?) member of The SOJCRP is most certainly guaranteed promotion and pay rise.

Anonymous said...

Rico, this is bang on. What happened over these decades? Just let them say we have all the answers, just let them.


"Now, as we look back over this year, the one thing that really sticks in my mind is: what the hell went wrong in Jersey between the 1940s right up to 2008. Make no mistake. There was physical, sexual and mental abuse happening for decades in institutions run on behalf of the States of Jersey and nothing was ever done about it. Are we expected to believe that, through these decades, no complaints were made to people in authority, the police or even the parish priest that there were serious crimes taking place in these care homes. What happened under Graham Power and Lenny Harper was a turning point for Jersey. No more was there going to be a culture of concealment and turning a blind eye to decades of institutional child abuse. For the first time there was hope that the victim's voices would be heard and allowed to be heard"

rico sorda said...

How have the Island’s children’s homes been run in recent decades?

What procedures were in place to recruit staff and how was theperformance of staff monitored? Should other steps have been taken to monitor performance?

What measures were taken to address inappropriate behaviour from staff when it was discovered, and if those measures were insufficient, what other measures should have been taken?

How did those in authority at political and officer level deal with problems that were brought to their attention?

What processes were in place to assess the performance of the homes and what action was taken as a result of any problems that were identified?


Were there any mechanisms in operation to allow children to report their concerns in safety and what action was taken if and when concerns were voiced?

I believe these were the issues Stuart Syvret was raising back in 2007 before he was removed as Health Minister. I just cant see ho they will have a committee of enquiry when they voted against Deputy Hill's proposition into the Suspension of Graham Power. They will say they can afford it in these hard times

Anonymous said...

"Are we expected to believe that, through these decades, no complaints were made to people in authority, the police or even the parish priest that there were serious crimes taking place in these care homes." - quote from anon comment at 7:52 PM.

That's right. There have been plenty of compelling witness accounts in addition to the statements by the abuse survivors themselves. Some of the care workers and other adult witnesses to abuse claimed they tried to complain through the proper channels and were met with silence or hostility. During the initial excavation phase of HDLG, a number of international reporters were able to interview witnesses who claimed they had come forward to no avail, and their stories are sprinkled throughout that coverage.

If there were illegal obstacles placed against those witnesses who were reporting child abuse to unreceptive authorities, it might not be so difficult to ask those aforementioned witnesses to speak to this on the record again, at least if the witnesses no longer live in Jersey.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

A letter from Lenny Harper

rico sorda said...

Sometimes Jersey never ceases to Amaze Me or should I say certain people living here.

Myself and Team Voice work very hard at bringing the readers of our blogs well researched and informative posts about the Historic Child Abuse Scandal. Having met some of the survivors and witnessed the raw emotion that lies behind all of this i find it amazing that there is a blog on this Island the still wants to belittle them.

I cannot work out why someone would run a blog in Jersey and use it to belittle Abuse Survivors.

Why would they do that?

Can someone offer me a proper valid explanation why someone would do that?

Are they the perpetrators who escaped the courts?

When i see him next make no mistake i will be asking him

Strange very Starnge

Anyone can write a comment but it's up to the blog owner/moderator if it gets published

They have tried all sorts on me.. Slag my nationality ( born in jersey), Some other racial stuff, call me thick, work in a pipe yard, live with my parents, name my work every other minute , send an email to my work basically saying sack ( charming) , that i must be an abuse victim because i care ( thats thick ) etc etc

Now why would they do that?

Good job i don't give a Toss about Idiots like them or i would have given up ages ago. I actually love it.

It means Im annoying someone who doesn't like the Truth

And im not stopping

lol

Anonymous said...

A letter in the local rag today. Besides(sadly) praising JDA Vibert, goes on, (more or less) to say that an opposition local newspaper would help finish off our present government and help give us a proper democracy....

Arn't the present local opposition blogs and the General Election due at the end of next year going to do that anyway?!

GeeGee said...

Rico - I can only agree with you,not because I fully support what you, VFC and indeed Stuart continue to do, but because whoever is so disturbed to carry out this futile and ongoing vendetta against you can only have something or someone to protect.

It is almost a fight or flight scenario, and so far they have failed utterly on the battle front! I am convinced that there is so very, very much that has been concealed and covered up that we have some very scared people out there - not us peasants, but people in high places who have been privy to some very dark deeds.

This Island stinks and believe you me if I could leave I would. Having said that though, you would still have my support and input without question.

Keep up the good work my friend - a lot of people have the utmost respect for your dedication and passion.

Un felice anno nuovo e di successo.

Anonymous said...

Rico, just keep doing what you do and you will find the answers. Why would someone retaliate against you for your advocacy of a more thorough investigation of child abuse? Look at who the f-bloggers and a couple of their closest supporters are and you will see their personal ties to bent cops, corrupt politicians and other unsavory criminals. You are right to ask these questions.

Ian Evans said...

A DIRE WARNING TO THE ELDERLY

Anonymous said...

During the lifetime of Operation Rectangle:

1,776 statements were taken.

9,874 documents were collated during the enquiry, with 4,620 exhibits seized.

533 offences were reported and recorded under the National Crime Recording Standards. Under these standards, one offence is recorded for either a single offence or series of similar offences against one victim by the same alleged offender.

Of the total of 533 offences, 274 were alleged sexual offences; 238 were offences of assault, ill-treatment or neglect, 17 were offences of Grave and Criminal Assault and there were four other offences.

315 offences were reported as being committed at Haut de la Garenne; 66 at other homes or institutions and 152 at places where children were fostered or in private addresses.

43% of all offences allegedly committed at Haut de la Garenne were sexual offences. 84% of all offences in foster care or private residences were sexual offences.

Eight people (seven men and one woman) have been charged and tried before the Courts in Jersey with seven successful prosecutions resulting from these cases.

The eight people were prosecuted for a total of 145 offences (27%).

As a result of the complaints received, 151 named offenders were identified, 41 other offenders were not identified.

A total of 192 individual victims were identified.

30 of the named offenders were identified as having died before the enquiry was undertaken.


1. Health Minister Removed

2. Deputy Police Chief Ridiculed

3. Police Chief Suspended

4. Child Abuse Cover Up in Full Swing

5. Most of Our Elected Politicians Think This is OK

6. That as you would say is "FACT"

moral-rightness said...

'one offence is recorded for either a single offence or series of similar offences against one victim by the same alleged offender.'

So if someone was raped and or sexually abused 99 times and only physically hit once, in the above statistics this would be shown as:-

50% of the offences recorded against this person were for sexual offences,

yea right!

The above is an example of why statistics can be very misleading!!!!

A better statistic, would be to disclose the number of offences as they happened, and the number of accused.

At HDLG they state 315 offences, but this number could be multiplied by ten, fifty, hundred, in fact the total of times children were either assaulted sexually and or physical violence, may have been 10,000 plus or more!

moral-rightness said...

'The eight people were prosecuted for a total of 145 offences (27%)'

When talking about people, why not report on the actual success with regards to the number of offenders who were charged rather than the 'fixed' offences statistic, as it really is about those who were abused.

Out of 151 named offenders, ONLY 8 were charged, that is ONLY 5.3%.

What I would like to know is what percentage of the reported 192 victims where satisfied that justice had been done and/or seen to be done!!

rico sorda said...

moral-rightness

Thanks for your comments.

Believe me, these facts and figures will be looked into and challenged. Questions will be asked of the New Chief of Police regarding these figures. If he thinks this has all been closed down in anticipation of his arrival then he is in for a shock. He must show Compassion Integrity and Honesty, if he can do that then he will set himself apart from the likes of TLS, ILM , TEFLON BILL & GANG..

Have you found it strange that the Media did not even bother challenging the Figures given out. In fact, you asked more in your two comments than our Media Outlets combined efforts.

Never ask questions, Never Challenge what you are being told

I had a real laugh today when I heard that Diane 'Shackles' Simon was putting together a JEP piece on the closing down of the Historic Child Abuse Investigation "HCI". What's so ironic about this, is, that she and her editorial cohorts are the ones who played a major part in doing just that.

The JEP have been a their very Rabid and Toxic best in discrediting the "HCI" they have been relentless, no balanced reporting, no investigating, no compassion towards the Abuse Victims just nothing

WHY IS THAT

But like I said in my main posting the real tragedy in all of this is not Jersey or its people

It's the innocent behind those Facts and Figures


Forgotten and continually Abused by the perpetrators, media and elected politicians who still turn a blind eye to the tragedy that the Abused Children had no say in. That disgusts me and always will

rs

rico sorda said...

LOL

Just when you think Christmas is done, another Turkey turns up.

What timing

There was me saying this and that about the JEP discrediting the "HCI" well low and behold we have an absolute cracker from Ben Queree

On page 13 of tonight's Rag

Now before I mention what he wrote I must point out that this is in fact the JEP's political writer. We have been asking for a long time why our journalists don't ask some investigative questions or just investigate or just do something. Now, I always thought that the reason the difficult questions never got asked was because the editors always blocked it, now im not so sure. There might well be a case that our political reporter who spends a life time in the states ( deserves medal for that) hasn't got a clue as to what's going on around him.

This is what Ben Queree Wrote

LOST CAUSE OF THE YEAR

" And thats why the Lost Cause of the Year is the suspended police chief Graham Power/Napier Report/ Shredded notes sagazzzzzzzzzz....hang on, sorry, dozed off for a moment there.

This is a cause that managed to drag in two politicians who normally show a fairly good grasp of political awareness and sense (Deputy Bob Hill and St Helier Constable Simon Crowcroft ) as well as a whole bunch without any into thinking there bight have been either a) a point to all this, or b) some political capital in it. There wasn't. There isn't. Let it go."

Now I kid you not, that has come from the JEP'S political reporter.

I often think i might go over the top in calling the JEP Rabid & Toxic, and yet, i read that garbage and im left thinking I have it bang on.

The issues that lie behind what he just wrote are

Child Abuse, The suspension of the Chief of Police, The complete failure of the HR and Chief EXECUTIVE to carry out correct procedure, the misleading of the House by Chief Minister Le Suer, the attacks on deputies seeking some truth, good governance, the safety of children in care system and so much more

Again I will ask

Can someone please explain how a political journalist with plenty of experience can write such utter garbage

Is it just lazy?

Is he just told?

He never comes across as stupid

But that's straight forward Bollix if ever I've seen it

And Dangerous

We need a journalist and we need one now

rs

Ian Evans said...

haha

I think Ben Queerear IS HAVING A POP at me to Rico? Just take a look at the second post, and how it is written!!! and after my very informed posting of yesterday.

And NO comment section this time either.

Anonymous said...

13 May 2010 - Mr Napier interviews Graham Power

?? July 2010 - First draft of the Napier report is sent out, David Warcup is a recipient!

19 July 2010 - Statement by David Warcup, Acting Chief Officer, States of Jersey Police

---------------

Napier report states:

An interim and provisional version of this report
was provided to the Deputy Chief Executive, on request, in mid-July 2010.

Ian Evans said...

Thought you might like A BIT OF THIS for supper!

Anonymous said...

13 May 2010 - Mr Napier interviews Graham Power

?? July 2010 - First draft of the Napier report is sent out, David Warcup is a recipient!

19 July 2010 - Statement by David Warcup, Acting Chief Officer, States of Jersey Police

---------------

Napier report states:

An interim and provisional version of this report
was provided to the Deputy Chief Executive, on request, in mid-July 2010.


Someone drop Ben a line and let him know what's going on over here.......

Anonymous said...

Napier report states:

An interim and provisional version of this report
was provided to the Deputy Chief Executive, on request, in mid-July 2010.

Chief MINISTER States

From: Terry Le Sueur
Sent: 01 March 2010 18:23
To: Bob Hill
Cc: John Richardson (CMD)
Subject: RE: Power enquiry


Dear Bob,

Thanks for this. I am happy that you and I should have the same oversight in the selection, although technically the person to make the decision has to be the Chief Minister. However I would not want to appoint anybody with whom you were not comfortable. Fortunately we have a wide choice and I hope we can agree a name quite quickly, since I would like this work to commence a.s.a.p. I gather you could be available at lunchtime tomorrow, and would be happy if you could meet me (and John Richardson) at my office at 1.00 p.m. or shortly thereafter.
I also confirm that I am happy for you to be involved with me in reviewing the ongoing work of the commissioner, the reporting mechanism and the reports themselves, including the Final Report to be presented to the States.
I look forward to hearing your comments tomorrow lunchtime.

Terrry.

What went wrong Chief Minister?

What was in the original Draft?

What Pension did Dave Warcup leave with for 2 years work?

Does he now receive one?

Many questions

Anonymous said...

What is the Warcup view on:-

[Senator Le Sueur confirmed to the JEP that he had referred the allegations of planning corruption to the police this week.

He said: ‘The allegations have been made and need to be looked into. If they are true, they need to be investigated, and if untrue, they need to be refuted.’]

So are Mr Warcup are they true????

Article posted on 9th October, 2010 - 3.00pm


Read more: http://www.thisisjersey.com/2010/10/09/police-called-in-over-planning-corruption/#ixzz19ddnwFkb

Anonymous said...

Hey, can Warcup now tell us more!!!

From David Warcup, Acting Chief Officer, States of Jersey Police.
I WRITE with reference to the editorial comment in yesterday’s Jersey Evening Post concerning the arrest of Senator Syvret.

I accept the absolute right of the media to make comment; however, it is unfortunate that the editorial made a judgment that the actions of the States police were wrong, when the paper was not in possession of the full facts and the States police are not in a position to respond due to the ongoing investigation.
Police Headquarters,
Rouge Bouillon,
St Helier.

Article posted on 9th April, 2009 - 2.59pm

Anonymous said...

On 12th November 2008, JEP quote Mr Warcup:

He added later: ‘Our conclusion that no murders took place at Haut de la Garenne is backed up by a report from the Metropolitan Police following a review of the inquiry.’


However, as Mr Napier stated in his report:-

As it turned out the full version of the Metropolitan Police report was not made available for the press conference held on the 12 November; only an interim report was provided...

rico sorda said...

Anonymous said...
On 12th November 2008, JEP quote Mr Warcup:

He added later: ‘Our conclusion that no murders took place at Haut de la Garenne is backed up by a report from the Metropolitan Police following a review of the inquiry.’


Now thats interesting

rs

moral-rightness said...

12th November 2008, JEP quote Mr Warcup:

‘I have the strategic lead responsibility for the inquiry and come to the press conference to provide information about what the situation is and how I see the current state of the inquiry and to keep the public properly informed. I want to ensure that the public have the correct facts.’

So I ask, why did he not tell anyone about the heavily qualified remarks in the Interim Met report, if only to ensure that the Chief Executive and the Minister were properly informed and had the correct facts?

rico sorda said...

My god just let the COM turn round and say there are no unanswered questions. Are we saying that Dave Warcup was brought over to do a job j like Operation Rose?

Where does that leave ILM?

Any connection between Warcup and Bowron?

moral-rightness said...

Napier Report:-
36. The letter from Mr Ogley to Deputy Lewis dated 11 November refers to the report from Mr Warcup as something which “draws heavily from and reflects the Metropolitan Police report into the investigation” and states that “He [i.e. Mr Warcup] is taking advice from the Attorney General as to whether it is appropriate to release the full Metropolitan Police report to either me or you.” That might be read as suggesting that the full report was in the possession of Mr Warcup, but of course that was not the case. All that Mr Warcup had been sent on 10 November was an interim report, qualified as previously noted.

101. ....................Mr Ogley says that he was told both by the Attorney General and Mr Warcup that he should not look at the interim report and neither he nor Mr Lewis did so. I have seen no record of any advice given, but I have not explored all sources. The Attorney General does not recollect giving such advice and believes he never saw the Interim Report documents itself. It must therefore remain uncertain exactly what legal advice (if any) was provided, and, if advice was provided at what stage in the proceedings this took place.

In section 36 of the Napier report, Mr Ogley was clearly under the impression that Mr Warcup was taking advice from the AG as to whether he (Mr Warcup) could release the 'full Met Report', (accepted by Napier that it was an Interim Report) to Mr Ogley and Deputy Lewis. In section 101, Mr Ogley is told by Mr Warcup that he should not look at it (was Mr Warcup making it up?), well Mr Ogley was also told by the AG, so were Ogley and Napier both making it up?

Although it was interesting to note that the AG 'does not recollect giving such advice and believes he never saw the Interim Report documents itself', which leaves the door open if the AG had in fact seen what was deemed to be the 'full Met Report', which of course, had there been one, I doubt it would have been deemed necessary to include any qualification, whereas, if the AG had remembered giving advice having viewed the Interim Report with qualifications, he would have had to say it could not be used. However, if there was some conspiracy that had conjured up a 'full Met Report' only to realise at a latter date that it could not be a Full Report as not everyone had been interviewed, as hastily reconstructed new Interim Report with qualifications then materialised!!! Strange that the AG cannot remember giving what must have been two independent statements to two people at different times and not remember, but his powers of recall did not fail him in, Napier (section 84) states: But I can say that the Attorney General has confirmed that he can corroborate precisely what Mr Warcup said to me, as he was given by him the same version of events at the time.

rico sorda said...

Thanks for these comments they are bang on

The Attorney General at the time was William Bailhache

In my power structure he is right there at the top with his brother. This man controls Jersey, our feudal barons, the untouchables. No media is allowed near WB

rico sorda said...

December 31st 2010

The day the Bullshit really did hit the fan. LOL, Frank ( Shaft International) O.B.E . I was still laughing an hour after being told.

Make no mistake in Franks Eyes this is a "Dusty Bin" gong this man wanted the "SIR" but not a chance.

So what did Frank get it for? Someone said it was for public Service? He left the States in 2008 under a rather dark cloud concerning the Child Abuse Scandal plus the corrupt suspension of Graham Power.

Did he get the Gong For

a. His Media Handling of the Child Abuse Scandal?

b. Making an Arse of himself on Newsnight?

c. Making an Arse of himself at St Martin Parish Hall

d. Making an Arse of Himself in the States over Harcourt Lawsuits

e. Making an Arse of the Suspension of Graham Power

f. Making a Flying Bloody Banana our Logo

g. Totally bloated Civil Service

i. The removal of a Health Minister over Child Protection Failures

Ok lets stop there

What did Frank get this gong for

rs

rico sorda said...

Frank Walker, who was Chief Minister at the time of Mr Power's suspension has denied there was any bullying and says he was repeatedly reassured that Mr Power's suspension was carried out 100% by the book.

Mr Walker has today (Thursday) issued the following statement:

'I wish to make the following abundantly clear.

1] There was no conspiracy amongst politicians or others. As time has gone on however a clear conspiracy theory has emerged, which is both unfortunate and completely untrue.

2] All the actions I took, working as I had to, with Andrew Lewis in his capacity as HA Minister, were strictly based upon the legal and procedural advice we were being given. I stressed time and time again that any action, following the shocking revelations about the management of the HDLG enquiry, in the Police press conference, had to be 100% according to the book. I was repeatedly given those assurances.

3] I did not shout at Wendy Kinnard. At the meeting GP has referred to I, acting upon the wishes of, and reflecting concerns held by, the entire COM, asked her to confirm, given the conflict she had revealed, if she felt she was in a position to continue to act as HA Minister. That was a very important question that had to be asked and I did so in a calm and proper manner. I and others in the meeting were shocked at GP's vehement reaction which was in no way justified by the question I asked or the manner in which I asked it.

4] Although I, together with most States members, and I think the vast majority of the people of Jersey, developed over time serious concerns about the way in which Mr. Harper was conducting the HDLG enquiry, I gave my full support to the Police, including of course Mr. Power, for whom I had a great respect, on many occassions, both publicly and privately. This included statements and answers to probing questions in the States. Indeed I have been criticised by some for giving them that support, particularly giving the Police, right from the outset of the investigation, what, in effect, amounted to an open cheque book to ensure that no stone was left unturned and that no line of investigation had to be curtailed due to lack of funds. It is patently untrue to suggest that I, working with others, was against the child abuse enquiry. Those who make that allegation are seeking to re-write clearly documented history.

rico sorda said...

5] I am deeply disappointed that this matter has taken so long to resolve and it is essential, for all concerned, that it is now concluded as soon as possible. I therefore wamly welcome Senator Le Sueur's initiative to establish an independent review. Although I believe that is the better way to proceed, I will also fully support a CofI if that is the wish of the States. It goes without saying that I will be happy to give evidence to either.

6] In summary I completely reject the allegations and suggestions being made and reiterate my view that, after the shocking revelations in the Police press conference, the suspension of Mr. Power was the correct procedure and that to the best of my knowledge, it was properly and professionally handled. That is what I have given in my statement to the Wiltshire Police.'



Oh Dear

rs

rico sorda said...

POWER-ALLEGATIONS

Now what was Napier saying about the Legal advice oh please keep up Ben i don't even get paid for doing this..

rs

rico sorda said...

I have just read the Rag and lol what a couple of days this is turning out to be.

Mr Queree did his bit the other day

Now we have the big guns. It really is funny. I have been given a copy of the Rag for a keepsake, you know, for those days when you need some cheering up and a good old bloody laugh.

The Rag has done a 'Special' on the closing down of the Child Abuse Investigation the Investigation they have spent the last 3yrs trying to close down lol

They again have asked no searching or investigative questions.

They do not care about the Abuse Survivors ( Never Have)

Diane Simon has been the main rag architect in misinformation and discrediting the Abuse Investigation

But the Interview that really stuck out for me was the one with Home Affairs Minister ILM. From start to finish this interview is full of utter crap, the more I hear from this Senator the more worried I get, and the more worried I get the more amazed i am that he was a former magistrate. I will be having a very good look at this Senator in the New Year because none of it is making sense.

For the Abuse Survivors who happen to read the Nazi Type Propaganda in the Rag Tonight do not worry they are desperate. The questions will keep getting asked, this is not going away.

99.9% of Jersey know it's full of crap

rs

Anonymous said...

What 'shocking' revelations is Walker talking about? That there were no cellars? No human bones, fleshed and fresh or otherwise? Or that Harper's victim care was poor? Think again Frank.

rico sorda said...

Police ‘bullying’ is a thing of the past, says minister
By Diane Simon


Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand
SIGNIFICANT progress has been made during the past two years in changing the culture of bullying and arrogance which affected the States police, says Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand.

And the positive changes have come under the leadership of former acting police chief David Warcup and his deputy, Barry Taylor, said the Senator.

Commenting at the end of the historical child abuse inquiry, Senator Le Marquand said that there had been cultural issues in the force which were exacerbated under the leadership of police chief Graham Power and his deputy, Lenny Harper.

‘I noticed a culture of bullying in certain areas and a culture of arrogance,’ said Senator Le Marquand. ‘The message coming from senior management tended to be “We are the expert professionals and we know better than you”, and that attitude was being passed down the force.’

Article posted on 31st December, 2010 - 2.57pm

Anonymous said...

Did Warcup leave because he did in fact follow the advice from the AG, but then read that the AG could not recall giving such advice. Or was Warcup given advice to ignore the caveats and then realised he had been stitched up!!

Anonymous said...

Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand - Big Joke, especially if anyone has read some of Lenny harper's past posts on Stuart's blog.

Who is ILM trying to fool!!

Anonymous said...

When are we going to be able to read the rest of the Wiltshire Report, it is ridiculous for it to take so long to redact. Just type in the names they want removed, do find and replace, all ready in a few hours or less.

rico sorda said...

"Or was Warcup given advice to ignore the caveats and then realised he had been stitched up!!

Make no mistake, Warcup must have know that the Met were doing a Review into the Historical Abuse Enquiry the reason being he set it up with the express knowledge of Graham Power. Now, he must also have known, being a top policeman, that the review is commissioned to be a critical friend. These reviews happen up and down the country. Now, the reason the crap hit the fan between the Met and Jersey, is ,that they used it as grounds to suspend the Chief of Police.

Did Warcup know they were going to do this on the 10th of November 2008 when he wrote his letter.

In my opinion, YES

Do not take any notice of the Junk written in tonight's paper concerning HdelaG it makes no difference. The JEP made it's bed with the paedo's a long time ago.

The ILM interview is a different ball game

Im so intrigued how someone in such a short political life has been so exposed. I find this one of the most intriguing parts concerning Graham Powers suspension.

You know, at this moment i couldn't say who is worse

ILM or TLS

Even God has done one
rs

rico sorda said...

Lenny Harper left the force in July 2008

Graham Power Suspended November 2008

ILM becomes Home Affairs Minister in November 2008 starts his duties in January 2009

Then he states


‘I noticed a culture of bullying in certain areas and a culture of arrogance,’ said Senator Le Marquand. ‘The message coming from senior management tended to be “We are the expert professionals and we know better than you”, and that attitude was being passed down the force.’

What is he backing this up with? Was he even asked in the main interview?

rs

Ian Evans said...

A SPECIAL?

Anonymous said...

Tonights JEP ''News focus special'' smacks of desperation to end 2010 with everything done and dusted.

Once again mention of Jersey reputation being unjustly dragged through the mire.

GeeGee said...

Rico - there was and has been bullying in the 'Force' long before Lenny and Graham believe you me. We can go back quite a few years before them.

My understanding, which I am 100% certain is correct, is that Lenny Harper was trying to clean up the force and rid it of officers that were not doing the job properly and honestly.

If ILeM sees that as 'bullying' then as we know already, he is not fit for purpose. Indeed, is he fit for anything?

New Years Eve and we have this bullpoo in our only local paper!

Ian Evans said...

A VERY JERSEY cover up. Bailhache, Le Marquand and Weirdcop top the bill.

moral-rightness said...

In the Wiltshire Report (13 July 2010), the total number of allegations stated was 429 and in the recent press release there are 533, an increase of 104 additional offences, of which 60 were sexual and 44 of assault. [Jul-Dec 2010] However, not one offender was identified but three of the previously identified offenders, were un-identified!!

Wiltshire Report: 180-26=154 identified 85.5%
Deceased: 23 so total identified but not dead = 131.

SOJP Press Release: 192-41=151 identified 78.6%
Deceased: 30 - total identified but not dead = 131.

rico sorda said...

moral-rightness said...
In the Wiltshire Report (13 July 2010), the total number of allegations stated was 429 and in the recent press release there are 533, an increase of 104 additional offences, of which 60 were sexual and 44 of assault. [Jul-Dec 2010] However, not one offender was identified but three of the previously identified offenders, were un-identified!!


M-R

What the hell do you think is going on?

"However, not one offender was identified but three of the previously identified offenders, were un-identified!!

What is that all about?

These are the issues/ questions an investigative journalist, or even just a journalist, should be asking our powers that be. None of this is making any sense.

Again it show the level of incompetence and crap Governance we have. It is a the root of everything in Jersey.

Money and Power

And a room full of paedo's and their supporters

rs

moral-rightness said...

I certainly have no idea why, but thought I'd just check figures and discovered this odd discrepancy.

Perhaps there were some witness retractions. If so why!

Anonymous said...

Rico has posted this on Planet Jersey

This really is quite something and with looking at. Frank Walker says on the 15 Feb 2010

1] There was no conspiracy amongst politicians or others. As time has gone on however a clear conspiracy theory has emerged, which is both unfortunate and completely untrue.

2] All the actions I took, working as I had to, with Andrew Lewis in his capacity as HA Minister, were strictly based upon the legal and procedural advice we were being given. I stressed time and time again that any action, following the shocking revelations about the management of the HDLG enquiry, in the Police press conference, had to be 100% according to the book. I was repeatedly given those assurances.


Not according to the Napier Report

Anonymous said...

Ian Le Marquand is beginning to resemble the mad hatter in his pathetic attempt to bolster the tattered reputation of himself and David Warcup. When Graham Power, myself, and other members of the senior management team tackled the bullying we were labelled by ILM and his cronies as the "politically correct KGB stalking the corridors of Police HQ." Remember that headline in the JEP? He is deliberately clouding the difference between being hard on bullies and crooks and real bullying of the vulnerable. In case he doesn't know what bullying really is let me remind him, Shenton, and a few of the others who criticised our anti bullying efforts of what we had to deal with. A policewoman driven to a breakdown by bullying who had to leave the island and go to live in France. She sued the force. What was the result of that Mr Le Marquand? That happened before Graham Power arrived. We sorted it. Another officer who dealt with a vulnerable victim assaulted by a partner. The victim worked for the police and gave the officer her mobile phone number only to be plaqued by obscene messages. Another female officer indecently assaulted - this was a common one. I have related other incidents in my affidavit. The atmosphere changed markedly during Graham Power's time as Chief. He would not accept bullying of any type. How about some decency and honesty Mr Le Marquand? Or is that too much to ask from you? Lenny Harper

Anonymous said...

Decency and honesty from Ian Le Marquand? Sorry Lenny ILM doesn't do decency and honesty, he's got abusers to protect.

rico sorda said...

SWORN AFFIDAVIT LENNY HARPER

GeeGee said...

Lenny - you have no need at all to defend yourself regarding the bullying that was endemic in the SoJ Police Force.

My daughter was a probationary officer and hated every single second of her time spent there. Made to follow procedures she knew were illegal and when she queried it told to keep quiet. Bullied because she wanted to keep her old circle of friends and not socialise with other officers outside of work, and yes, left the force under a cloud - but, the best career 'move' of her life.

As per a previous comment, this goes back quite a while before your watch, so Mr Le Marquand stop placing the blame WHERE IT DOES NOT LIE!

rico sorda said...

This is a very good posting from Tonys musings and deserves another read
NAPIERS MONES

2] All the actions I took, working as I had to, with Andrew Lewis in his capacity as HA Minister, were strictly based upon the legal and procedural advice we were being given. I stressed time and time again that any action, following the shocking revelations about the management of the HDLG enquiry, in the Police press conference, had to be 100% according to the book. I was repeatedly given those assurances.

No one find it strange how Napier just disappeared after delivering 3 attempts at his report. He will not answer any questions on his report and that goes for elected politicians

rs

rico sorda said...

Wrong link sorry

TONYS MUSINGS

RS

Anonymous said...

News

HMIC report for States of Jersey Police - the Force has improved, say inspectors

Thursday 7 December 2006

EMBARGOED UNTIL FRIDAY 8 DECEMBER 2006
States of Jersey Police is a forward thinking organisation which has willingly taken on board the suggestions made in previous HMIC reports and is a modern, pro active Police Force, according to the latest inspection report from Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary.
States of Jersey Police was visited by the HMIC earlier this year and the inspectors have recorded progress which follows on from that made in the 2000 and 2003 reports.
The report states:
‘The current senior management team has continued to make improvements in performance, resources, management and capability since the 2000/2001 HMI Inspection Report which identified significant weaknesses in management and performance. There is now evidence to indicate that the organisation is perceived as modern and fast moving with high expectations of operational and cultural change amongst a motivated workforce….Her Majesty’s Inspector is impressed by the openness and receptiveness of the Chief Officer and his team to the suggestions made, demonstrating a desire and drive to adopt good practice where opportunities for improvement were suggested.’

HMIC

rico sorda said...

Make no mistake the Home Affairs Minister needs looking at because like i have said before it just doesn't stack up with this guy not one bit.

SENATOR ILM

This is a post from Tonysmusings and is again excellent and worth a read

rs

Anonymous said...

States of Jersey Police
Baseline Assessment 2006
Page 9
1 Citizen Focus
Professional Standards
Strengths
•There is an effective professional standards department (PSD) function in place
which is commensurate with the size of force.
•The deputy chief officer (DCO) provides high profile leadership on all PSD
issues. The DCO sees all complaints and reviews all finalised files which allows
for a proportionate response. •The DCO drives the need for high integrity by providing clear messages to staff,particularly new recruits, and gives input to community relations and diversity courses. He frequently circulates personnel e-mails reminding them of PSD and
integrity standards. There are frequent meetings with the Police Association and
with heads of HR and training in respect of diversity and HR issues.
•The DCO inspires, promotes and supports an ethical culture. There is good
support and projection of policies such as Enhancing Professional Standards
and Integrity, and Equality and Diversity.
Sergeants and inspectors are held accountable for the working standards of staff. Minority groups are consulted in respect of impact of
all police operations. Policies on a number of PSD related areas are published
on the force intranet, for example gifts/hospitality, business interests, grievance
and informal resolution.
Whilst a confidential staff line is available, usage is minimal.
•The force has in place a fair/transparent system for receiving, investigating and
resolving complaints. •A clear policy setting out local resolution is in place. It is well circulated and used
and known by operational officers. The complaints system is known amongst
staff, reiterated by a leaflet explaining procedures and a system for informal
resolution.
•Arrangements are in place for all staff to have access to an independent and
confidential reporting line. The line is operated by a UK firm which sanitises
information and passes it to the DCO for assessment and action.
There is effective management of
complaints. Page 11
•Meetings are held regularly between the DCO and all staff members. •Very good relationships exist between PSD and PCA. Good relations exist with the police association.
•Community engagement measures exist to act as a touchstone of public
confidence in police complaints and misconduct through the use of the
Community Consultative Group which includes representatives from the
Portuguese, Polish, Kenyan, Gay, Jewish and Muslim groups on the island. The
group has input into all policing issues affecting the community including police
recruiting and complaints.
•. •There is a process by which the reasons for operations investigations being
compromised or curtailed are made subject of analysis and the officer’s
concerned made subject of intelligence reports. •The force has achieved a reduction in complaints to 38 during 2005, which is
roughly equivalent to 160 complaints for every 1,000 officers. Almost all
States of Jersey Police
Baseline Assessment 2006
Page 12
disciplinary proceedings have arisen from internal enquiries arising from
intelligence rather than complaints from the public.

Anonymous said...

The reason Warcup handed his notice in is a very simple one. The 'Jersey Way' had taken a very serious punch to the face by local bloggers. In the very recent 'bad old days' Warcup would have just walked into the top job without a question being asked. You see, back in 2008 it was business as usual, but then, decent politicians backed by alternative media changed the landscape. The tied is turning.

rico sorda said...

2006, 2007, Looks like the force was being brought up to scratch under the leadership of power. I believe there was a critical HMIC report in 2001 or there a bouts. What or where is the good Senator Ian le Marquand getting his facts from ref "bullying"

Is ILM just making this up as he goes along

rs

Anonymous said...

Scottish connection at heart of Jersey child abuse inquiry

Published Date: 05 March 2008
By TANYA THOMPSON
Detectives seeking truth in island scandal have had impact north of Border, writes TANYA THOMPSON
THEY ARE the forgotten victims of child abuse whose dark secrets have languished in police files for a generation. As far back as the early 1960s, the terrified children of Haut de la Garenne were courageous enough to report maltreatment but their allegations were systematically ignored. Only now are their voices being heard by detectives determined to press ahead with one of Europe's biggest abuse investigations.

The three senior officers spearheading the Jersey inquiry, each with strong Scottish connections, have been instrumental in changing attitudes in the tight-knit island community that appears to have turned a blind eye to sickening accounts of violence, sexual abuse and possibly murder.

The search for the truth began in earnest two years ago with the arrival of the force's chief officer, Graham Power, the former Deputy Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders. He and his colleagues were quick to challenge the status quo, furious that too many complaints from abused children had fallen on deaf ears.

Described by a close friend and former colleague as a "straight-talking Yorkshireman", he has a wealth of experience in high-profile investigations and is seen as a man who will "not rest until he gets to the truth".

The friend said: "He is absolutely the best man for the job. Graham is a Yorkshireman who is very straight, to the point of bluntness.

"He is a tough character... a very robust and resolute man. If he feels something is right he will do it... come hell or high water."

Mr Power is certainly not afraid of making unpopular decisions. In 1998 he issued a damning report, criticising Grampian Police for its handling of a child murder inquiry. Scott Simpson was killed in July 1997, hours after being abducted by the paedophile Steven Leisk. According to the report by Mr Power, Leisk's presence in Aberdeen was known to police and he could have been identified. Power exposed bad practice among senior colleagues and his report went on to criticise the force for failing to put an officer in charge of the inquiry.

"I can't think of any way you could influence or lean on this man... when he is taking a course of action that he believes to be right," an Edinburgh colleague added.

"He has handled big inquiries... and delivered a very unpopular report on Steven Leisk. He is not afraid of making unpopular decisions."

The Scots-born Detective Inspector Alison Fossey is another key player who has made a big impression in Jersey, questioning outdated attitudes to child protection work. Now in charge of the public protection unit on the island she is described by colleagues as "an integral part" of the team and a woman who has a "passion" for child protection work. The 40-year-old officer, originally from Glasgow, was part of the covert operation which carefully pieced together information before appealing to abuse victims to come forward.

Anonymous said...

Cont
Mr Power's deputy, Lenny Harper, is a high-flying Ulsterman who had worked in both uniform and CID for the Metropolitan Police, moving to Strathclyde Police in 1991 on promotion to the rank of chief inspector, quickly rising to the rank of superintendent.

Mr Power, Mr Harper and Ms Fossey selected a small team of officers and support staff, including some from England and Scotland, to ring the changes. Few people were told about what was going on at headquarters in Jersey, while the Haut de la Garenne investigation was kept secret for more than a year.

They had become concerned at the number of sex crimes committed by volunteers at the sea cadet unit in the island's capital, St Helier. While they were re-examining those crimes, detectives realised a number of victims claimed they had also been assaulted elsewhere. Soon they were investigating events at Haut de la Garenne, Greenfields and another home, La Preference.

Jo Duncombe, a child abuse consultant who has worked on a number of cases in Jersey, said it was crucial that the senior officers had been brought in from overseas.

"Jersey is an insular place where they keep themselves to themselves. I've worked there on child abuses cases and there was a lot of covering up.

"It's immensely important for someone to come in looking at it from a different angle.

"This is a small community and you don't know who is going to be involved. It's much easier to stir things up as an outsider.

These officers have done a good job in moving things forward."

All three officers are regarded as bringing huge expertise to a small force that would not have seen anything like this scale of inquiry. Ms Fossey has 15 years' service with the police and after obtaining a law degree at Aberdeen University she began her career at Lothian and Borders, transferring to Strathclyde Police where she built a formidable reputation in the Female and Child Unit from 1995.

Until the arrival of Mr Power and his colleagues, there have long been whispered claims that children taken into care have suffered serious physical and sexual abuse at the hands of social services staff, and that other people, including government officials and police officers, have failed to investigate.

In a small community such as Jersey, with a population of just 90,000 and a police force of about 250, "outside officers" clearly have their work cut out. The desire for discretion appears firmly entrenched on Jersey but Mr Power and his officers are working hard to gain people's trust, especially since he himself says some of the suspects are influential figures within Jersey society. "It's certain a small number of people who are being named did have some official connection with the Jersey establishment," he said. "It would be astonishing if there were not – this is a small island where many people are in the establishment."

Before they revealed the existence of the investigation last November, the team set up telephone helplines for victims, staffed – in England – by police and the NSPCC. Before long police had compiled a list of 40 suspects, many of whom worked at Haut de la Garenne, after talking to more than 160 alleged victims and several dozen witnesses.

Allan Watts, head of news and content at ITV Channel Television, based in Jersey, believes the islanders are finally ready to set the record straight.

"Jersey is a microcosm of the UK... and the issues we face are exactly the same as elsewhere.

" There is a wariness and it takes time to get used to people coming in.

"But there seems to be a willingness on the island for the police to thoroughly investigate this. We need to clear our name."

Anonymous said...

States Sitting Tuesday 29th April 2008, Home Affairs Minister Senator Wendy Kinnard answers a question fron Deputy S Power regarding the frament of childs skull:

"The statement made about the fragment of skull on 23rd Febuary 2008 was accurate. It was and continues to be the remains of a child. The police have always maintained that they did not know when, where or how the person died. The fact that it was not proved possible to date the fragment of skull does not change the fact of what it was nor does it remove the possibility that he or she died of foul play".

rico sorda said...

Anonymous

Thank you so much for your very informative comments. Please keep them coming if you please as you shed new light on this very toxic business of child abuse cover ups.

I just wonder how Alison Fossey is handling all this. If there is one person who must know what is going on then it is Ms Fossey. She was ever present in the Power/Harper team and also in the Warcup/Gradwell . Has anybody ever asked her for her comments on this saga. Lets also not forget that she was present at the Child Protection meeting that concerned the removal of the then Health Minister Stuart Syvret.

If Ms Fossey knows that there are cases that have been submitted and should have reached court but got dumped by the Attorney General William Bailhache and his neutral lawyer friend from Bedford Row, I wonder how that would sit with her?

rs

rico sorda said...

I must also say im not surprised by the utter Garbage dished up by local hack Diane 'Shackles' Simon. She has continued to do what she does so well, and that is, upset the Abuse Survivors with her shear lack of compassion and Investigative skills concerning the Historic Child Abuse Investigation.

Her dislike of Lenny Harper shines through quite clearly from her articles, that will contain at least one mention of the word coconut. She is the one reporter that the Rag editotrs fully trust in the concealment of Child Abuse. She was forwarded the JCLA press release but of course that couldn't get printed because they actually backed Power/Harper and that would go against the establishment/media lies.

If you don't believe what im saying, or that im being to hard on Diane Simon, and in fact she has reported very fairly on the Historic Child Abuse Investigation, then let me have your side of the facts.

rs

Anonymous said...

July 2008

David Warcup, the deputy chief constable of Northumbria, will replace DCO Harper next month. During the handover period, Detective Inspector Alison Fossey will continue as deputy senior investigating officer and be responsible for day-to-day management. Jersey police will advertise for a senior investigating officer.

There has been no focus on Allison Fossey, why not?

Anonymous said...

Here are some more extracts from the report of HMIC in 2006. Has Le Marquand never read these?
7 Leadership and Direction
7A Leadership
Strengths
•The current Chief Officer has been in post for five years having previously
served as a deputy chief constable and then Assistant Inspector of Constabulary
in the Scottish Police Service. The DCO was previously a superintendent in the
SOJP having previously served as a superintendent in Strathclyde and has held
senior uniform and CID positions in the Metropolitan Police Service. The
superintendent head of operations has been in post for four years having
previously served as a temporary assistant chief constable in the National Crime
Squad. There is regular assessment of recent and planned changes in the chief
officer team and necessary action taken to minimise any adverse effects.
•The HMI Report for 2002/03 identified that significant improvements had been
made since an earlier inspection when major shortfalls were identified
demonstrating the chief officer team’s drive and determination to make
improvements.

Anonymous said...

HMI 2006 Part 2
•The DCO also works in the wider policing context by attending conferences of
anti-corruption strategies, professional standards issues, Freedom of
Information, Data Protection and disclosures and terrorism. The DCO also
attends quarterly meetings of the ACPO SW region professional standards
committee. The superintendent attends quarterly NIM SW regional T&C
meetings, quarterly ACC (operations) SW conferences and attends at other ad
hoc conferences and seminars. In addition to the direct benefits of this
involvement, a senior level network has been developed and has been used to
provide training and development opportunities for local officers.
•A detailed policing plan has been produced through a series of inclusive
seminars. The chief officer team has communicated the vision, values and
standards through personal contact and a series of formal and informal briefings.
•In the context of the island, diversity issues present a particular challenge. Until
very recently there were no laws prohibiting discrimination in employment and
no industrial tribunals. It remains the case that racial abuse and sexual
discrimination have no effective legal sanction. The chief officer team has
approached this unique situation by agreeing with the Home Affairs Minister and
Assistant Minister a policy framework which the leaders of the force will apply
throughout the organisation, irrespective of the lack of legal sanction.

Anonymous said...

HMI 2006 Part 3 (one more to come.)•The DCO is the force lead on diversity issues within the organisation. Activities
undertaken include updating of the grievance and equality and diversity
procedure, the involvement in all diversity courses, and the establishment of a
consultative group.
•External consultants have been engaged to train all members of the force on
diversity issues to a UK standard. Unacceptable behaviour is firmly challenged
and addressed. Efforts have been made to establish and maintain contact with
minority communities both on an individual basis and through a community
consultative group. The Chief Officer has drafted and promoted the ‘Celebrating
Diversity’ code which is to be adopted by government and private sector
employers as a statement of diversity standards.
•The chief officer team is effective in managing the organisation through major
change programmes. The deployment of project planning and management
techniques enables the force to meet critical milestones.

Anonymous said...

HMI 2006 Part 4. •The chief officer team also promotes a culture of empowerment, innovation and
learning through a series of cross rank groups, and through use of the force
intranet. The intranet system provides a comprehensive service to staff on
operational issues, policy development and learning opportunities. There is a
substantial intranet library containing up-to-date police related information from
the UK and elsewhere.
•The Chief Officer has taken proactive steps to gauge and influence morale in
what is a small force operating out of a single location. Staff surveys have been
conducted and action has been taken in response to findings. The staff
associations are closely involved in the work of the force management board
and meet regularly with the chief officer team. There is clear evidence of chief
officer’s commendations and the recognition of positive achievements.
"The above was found on the SOJ Police website - why has ILM not read and digested this?

Anonymous said...

Rico,what do you mean Diane Simon doesn't like me? I am devastated!! I thought all of the JEP loved me. I thought the reason they changed everything I said was to correct the errors in my grammar. And that nice Chris Bright actually wrote about how difficult a job we had in turning the culture of bullying and corruption around. This has ruined my start to 2011!! Lenny Harper

rico sorda said...

Sorry Lenny

The JEP hate you really bad, so bad in fact, that child abusers and the rest of their ilk are allowed protection whilst you get the full treatment.

You would like to think that once this old guard have died out; that the Island would become a better place.

This should a Journalists paradise, but alas, they have all been muted for one reason or another.

lol

I can sense your devastation

rs

Anonymous said...

Now, here's an odd thing. The reports of Her Majesty's Inspector which are full of praise for the work of Graham Power. Lenny Harper, and their senior management team are easily found on the SOJ Police website, even with the comments about how they had turned the bullying and inappropriate behaviour around. Yet, the report from 2001 which described the force as backward and stagnant is nowhere to be found. Have I missed it?

rico sorda said...

JERSEY POLICE

Looks like the site is in need of some updating

rs

Ian Evans said...

Yes it certainly is in need of updating!

I just looked under "Policing Plan for Jersey for 2010" and it says absolutely nothing about covering up child abuse or corruption???

Anonymous said...

Relates to:
Haut de la Garenne
Date: 2008-07-09
Source: jersey.police.uk

RECRUITMENT FOR SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICER: HISTORIC ABUSE TEAM

RELEASED TO MEDIA AT WEDNESDAY 9 JULY 2008 AT 8.20 AM

The current Senior Investigating Officer in charge of Jersey’s historic abuse inquiry, Deputy Chief Officer Lenny Harper, is to retire in August. Considerable thought has been given to how he should be replaced in a way which continues to maintain the momentum and professionalism of the investigation and, which at the same time, retains the confidence of victims and the wider community.

During this process, the Force has been greatly assisted by a team of independent advisors appointed by A.C.P.O. (The Association of Chief Police Officers). It has been decided that the new Deputy Chief Officer, Mr David Warcup (currently Deputy Chief Constable of Northumbria) will assume overall responsibility for the inquiry when he takes up his new position in early August.

Mr Warcup will be responsible for the overall strategy, policy and standards of the investigation. Mr Warcup will be supported by a full-time Senior Investigating Officer who will be responsible for operations.

It is hoped that a suitable person with the relevant experience and qualifications will be appointed to this post soon.

Throughout this handover period and for the foreseeable future, Detective Inspector Alison Fossey of the States of Jersey Police will continue as Deputy Senior Investigating Officer and will be responsible for continuity and day-to-day management during the transition.

Chief Officer Graham Power of the States of Jersey Police said: “We have decided to advertise for a Senior Investigating Officer with the highest standards of qualifications and experience in major complex investigations. When appointed, he or she will operate under local command and produce files of evidence for consideration by the Jersey Law Officers. I hope that this proposed appointment will be seen as evidence of the islands continued determination to ensure that all of the allegations relating to historic abuse are investigated thoroughly, in a way which will be seen as determined and independent.”

The Assistant Minister for Home Affairs, Deputy Andrew Lewis, has been consulted throughout this process.

Anonymous said...

Even if the fragment of the childs skull was over 40 years old when found in 2008. Realistically it was still very much a very important find.

Therefore it was a matter of urgency that it needed to be changed to a coconut.

If they can get away with changing cellars to voids,making solid concrete baths disappear.


Changing a human skull to a coconut is a breeze

rico sorda said...

just look at the answer given by the chief minister. This was on the 2nd and 16th november 2010

1.6 THE DEPUTY OF ST. MARY OF THE CHIEF MINISTER REGARDING THE HAUT DE LA GARENNE INVESTIGATIONS:
Question

Would the Chief Minister confirm whether the ACPO team provided reports from January 2008 on the progress of their mentoring and guidance of the Haut de la Garenne inquiry to the Chief Executive to the Council of Ministers and the then Chief Minister, and if so, would the Chief Minister advise Members of the dates of those meetings and undertake to publish the minutes?

Answer

The ACPO team did not provide any reports to either the then Chief Minister or the Chief Executive to the Council of Ministers.

There was one informal meeting on 7th March 2008 when the Home Affairs Minister invited the Chief Minister and Chief Executive to meet two ACPO officers who were undertaking the review of the Police investigation. The ACPO team provided a brief verbal presentation of their findings. No papers were presented, nor notes taken.

The only written information that was presented to the Chief Minister and Chief Executive about the ACPO review was contained in a letter dated 12th June from the Home Affairs Minister to the Chief Minister. It contained the following information:

“I am not an expert in criminal investigation and therefore have sought advice from the Association of Chief Police Officers for England and Wales (ACPO) who have appointed an independent group of experts to audit the investigation against recommended best practice and to prepare reports with comments and recommendations. I have already studied two reports and a third is being studied by my Assistant Minister. On the basis of the reports I have seen so far I am satisfied that best practice is being followed and that recommendations are being acted upon.”

1.23 THE DEPUTY OF ST. MARY OF THE CHIEF MINISTER REGARDING THE REPORT FROM A.C.P.O:
Question

Can the Chief Minister explain the inconsistencies between his written answer on 2nd November 2010, in which he stated that there were no notes taken at an informal meeting held on 7th March 2008 when the Home Affairs Minister invited the Chief Minister and Chief Executive to meet two ACPO officers who were undertaking the review of the Police investigation, and the second ACPO report which states in Paragraph 4 that the said meeting had been convened at the request of the then Chief Minister and a written record of the meeting was available?

Answer

The first question on 2nd November was addressed to me as Chief Minister and the answer I gave was from the perspective of the Chief Minister and the Chief Minister’s department. I cannot speak on behalf of the States of Jersey Police or, the previous Home Affairs Minister.

I cannot explain the inconsistency described by the Deputy as I have not seen the first or second ACPO report to which he refers.


He never bloody can. The Chief Minister is in my opinion a lying Bozo

He cant even get it right over the Napier terms of reference

He couldn't even get it right concerning Girls College

He couldn't even hedge a euro

WHAT A COMPLETE DISASTER

RS

Ian Evans said...

HOW TO SURVIVE VACCINES & FOOD ADDITIVES

has-the-question-been-answered said...

[convened at the request of the then Chief Minister and a written record of the meeting was available?]

"I cannot explain the inconsistency described by the Deputy as I have not seen the first or second ACPO report to which he refers."

He did not need to see the report to answer the question, he should have checked the information so he could answer the question. I am sure he would have had the JEP blast it out that there was no such thing if that had been the case!!

Anonymous said...

Was the informal meeting on March 7th 2008 the meeting when Frank Walker insulted Wendy Kinnard by any chance?

rico sorda said...

has-the-question

Do you see what im getting at here. This is the utter incompetence im on about, he cant even answer this question and the reason being is that he cant. Remember when at school, the liars were always made to look foolish, well it's no different now.

The same with Frank Walker and the WEB Harcourt fiasco

This is rife in the States and it gets backed up from the lackies. I will put them up soon

For the good of Jersey these incompetent morally and socially corrupt clowns must be removed

rs

rico sorda said...

Anonymous said...

Was the informal meeting on March 7th 2008 the meeting when Frank Walker insulted Wendy Kinnard by any chance?

I believe that was a different meeting

rs

rico sorda said...

Just like on January 6th 1781 the bells of the 12 parishes will be ringing out as Sir Philip of Bailhache raises his establishment army.

Yes the feudal troops will be ralllying in all the parishes for the Battle of Jersey that will commence in the year 2011. Lord Carswell, the traitor of the Irish North, has already been incarcerated in the castle, his crime being so treachorous and evil that not even the establishment wives, the feudal room boys, the corrupt media or even Captain Terrence Le Main of the 1st Establishment Battalion of St Clement dare mention it, for it is the scourge of Jersey and goes by the name of "The Truth."

Back in Grouville, Sir Philip of Bailhache has sent out his runners. They carry the order of battle. Jeune and Horsfall, his most trusted, carry the message of feudalism. They must keep spreading its word far and wide because, for the first time in 800 years, all could be lost.

Some Deputies have taken over Citadel of Power armed with the most fearsome of weapons, Truth, Honesty and Integrity. They are a noble bunch who, against all odds, have broken free from the clutches of state controlled media and the back-stabbing lackies of the motherland. Along with the Jersey Resistance fighters, armed with a mythical new power called Broadband, the lines are drawn and Battle will commence.

As the establishment troops march on to Westmount, Sir Philip of Bailhache calls for his most trusted stallion L'Ozouf. As he mounts his steed and clenches his buttocks, he pulls back tightly on the reins. The bit wedges tightly in L'Ozouf's mouth causing him to rear and they rise together as one. Has there ever been such an erotic show of feudal power in 800 years?

So in the year 2011 Feudal Phil must step up to the plate and do the unthinkable. That is to stand for election. He will lead his establishment army to the beat of the little drummer boy of St Mary (Mclean). Will he run for Senator or will it be Deputy. My guess is that it will be Senator as I strongly believe he also has his heart set on becoming the first speaker of the House in the event that the dissidents kick the Bailiff out of the Chamber. Although this seems unlikely with the establishment army entrenched in the States Chamber, all bases must be covered.

The Power is under attack in an ever changing world

2011

The Battle For Jersey

Anonymous said...

the bit about bailhache and trusted stallion
had me laughing out loud

more of you comic genius, please rico

L'ozouf lol said...

Rico

Bloody hell son you will be hanging in the Royal Square for that. So funny yet so right. This bit i love " Captain Terrence Le Main of the 1st Establishment Battalion of St Clement". Can we have some more please?

rico sorda said...

TLS MISLEADING THE HOUSE

Let us not forget as we enter a new year

Anonymous said...

you bad,bad boy posting that erotic paragraph. You probably will be castigated for it.....but what a moment of genuis.It conjures up some interesting cartoon imagery.

rico sorda said...

I will be blogging about Senator ILM at the weekend. I have sent the Senator an email asking him to explain the interview he gave the JEP'S Jersey Child Abuse Cover-up reporter, Diane (Shackles) Simon.

Now as soon as I gave the article the once over the alarm bells were ringing.

All will be explained this weekend.

rs

Ian Evans said...

"HALLE - BLOODY - LUJAH"

rico sorda said...

So let me Explain

I believe the work Trevor Pitman, Daniel Wimberly and others have done in the States has been brilliant. I have had my disagreements with Trevor over the by-election, we discussed them and moved on, thats what you do.

I 100% disagree with stuart calling them Scum Traitors they don't deserve it. We must all pull together for the greater good of this Island.

For me Scum are

People who Abuse Children

People who have allowed it to Happen

The Media who have Covered it up

The Judiciary who have Covered it up

etc etc

Make no mistake there are huge question marks hanging over the States Chamber, because at the moment there is no Truth, Honesty and Integrity. I still found it amazing that no politicians went down to the Magistrate court and listened to what was happening to a fellow politician or went into the Royal Court and listened to the the Victims in the Abuse Scandal.

Stuart has and continues to raise some seriously important issues that go to the very heart of our Government.

This place is just plain crazy at times

rs

Ian Evans said...

Rico,

Our politicians are lied to by ILM & TLS on an almost daily basis, AND THEY KNOW IT, as does everyone else in command of some small amount of grey matter.

When even one of them, can muster the courage to stand up and call these two clowns for the LIARS THEY ARE, and hold them to account, then Stuart will have some respect for them, and so will I.

I do not think they are scum Rico, but I do say they are cowards. The way Paul Le Claire behaved at the outset is testament enough to everything that Stuart was saying last night, and has proved to be the real weakness that prevents change.

Let them stand up and speak their minds (unabated) in the chamber of horrors, only then will it be time to truly unite.

Respect to you Rico lad.

"When fear grows strong enough, it acts like another being within you. It becomes a parasite and will fight to stay alive."

rico sorda said...

And hear lies the problem Ian

Standing orders prevents politicians saying exactly how it is across the Chamber. The Bailiff controls the floor. Deputy Higgins has almost exploded in the Chamber trying to hold TLS to account but the Bailiff is on it like a dog on heat.

If there were no Pitmans, Wimberly, Hill and some others Dave Warcup
would have been our Chief of Police and that would have been a travesty to any one with half a brain who can see what has gone on.

There are Cowards, but none of the ones Stuart named are Cowards.

I have no problem calling it how I see it as anyone reading this blog can see but im not having it.

Make no mistake I have proven that TLS is misleading the house and now we will see what happens.

This Saturday or Sunday I will seriously question Senator ILM ethics. This man is sinking faster than one of Sarah Fergusons jam tarts

Again I will do it based on evidence and will include the JEP's answer to Dave Rose

Diane Simon

rs

Ian Evans said...

Rico mate

How can the politicians that you are defending, abide by the silly little rules that govern chit chat in the chamber, when most of the chamber are breaking the rules that govern the very fabric of democracy in our society, the very cornerstones of the human civilization???

It is called fear....

rico sorda said...

Ian

It is called standing orders. The Chamber has rules. Yes I know its heavily in favor of the establishment but that is how the Bailiff plays it. I have listened and watched a lot of states sittings and have a very good idea how its run.

There are thousands of things wrong at the moment.

Ian why do the Left always slag off the Left?

Why don't the Establishment slag off the Establishment?

Why can Terry Le Main get shafted out of his Ministry, and is yet still an establishment Lap Dog?

They close ranks

We had better learn fast

rs

Ian Evans said...

"It is called standing orders"

Rico, you know better than that mate!

Keep up the good work fella :o)

rico sorda said...

Ian

I know better than what?

rs

Ian Evans said...

A little something for the thinking man....

"Dreams pass into the reality of action. From the action stems the dream again; and this interdependence permits us the highest form of living."

All fear is cast aside, replaced by the feeling of self worth and confidence, importance, and the aspiration to a higher ideal.

Anonymous said...

What would happen if an elected member told the Bailiff to shut up and asked the question anyway? Other than switching off the mic, as he did to Stuart, has he got the power to eject or arrest an elected member from the house?
If so, you really are in trouble?

rico sorda said...

IAN

That all sounds fantastic but I cant deal with all that bollix. I just deal with what I see, what my instincts tell me, what I investigate, then call it how I see it.

When you said " I know better" I wasn't expecting that

Was that a bit of a cop out Mr Evans lol

Right thats enough of this. I have ILM to concentrate on. This guy is turning out to be a complete beauty

rs

rico sorda said...

Im not sure on the whole procedure but you can be removed.

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico,

If you are confident a politician has misled the house (which is an offence considered serious enough to require resignation) why have you not presented your evidence as a formal complaint?

rico sorda said...

Good idea anonymous what's the procedure?

rs

Zoompad said...

Is this any help?

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.direct.gov.uk%2Fen%2FGovernmentcitizensandrights%2FYourrightsandresponsibilities%2FDG_10013518&ei=qZ0kTZe9FYiIhQfpsK2tAg&usg=AFQjCNHiHqKFz_lrJ-UvoUs0g3dlLH0Yzw&sig2=4Mz3ZykU7f-4OSXvL3sRew

rico sorda said...

Hi Anon

If im honest I don't think I have the time. Doing this blog takes up most of my free time. I hope some politicians pick up on what I have exposed ( TLS misleading the House) and do something about it, but we will see.

Finding the time is the hardest part of this blogging game

And im feeling a little below par at the moment so we will see

rs

Zoompad said...

I hope you feel better soon Rico. XX

Anonymous said...

"rico sorda said...
Hi Anon

If im honest I don't think I have the time. Doing this blog takes up most of my free time.

Finding the time is the hardest part of this blogging game"

I once enquired about making a complaint & was told it only entailed filling in a form obtained from the States Greffe by the Royal Square.

Zoompad said...

"I once enquired about making a complaint & was told it only entailed filling in a form obtained from the States Greffe by the Royal Square"

Good, well done for finding that out. Rico cant do everything, so do you think you could file the complaintt, because it looks like it is something that needs to be done.

Zoompad said...

I have put in the FOI request to enquire who nominated Frank Walker for an OBE, and I should have an answer to it by 2nd Feb.

rico sorda said...

Good stuff Zoompad

Keep us informed on how it goes. Just on the off chance and seeing as I had a spare 2mins I looked up these contacts. Now, are you sure you need to go through FOI to get this information?

Honors and Appointments

Secretariat

020 72762777 or

honors@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk

It would be very interesting who got the form and nominated him

rs

rico sorda said...

January 6th 2011

The Jordans are jailed for being Child Abusers

Again I would just like to acknowledge the Courage,Integrity and Dignity of the Brave Survivors who suffered at the hands of these Abusers. There has been Anger filled tears with so much pain but today was your day. It just shows you what can happen if you stick together. I really hope that this Judgement will help in repairing some of the damage inflicted by these Abusers.

The past will never leave you and in no way do I see this as some kind of closure for you but it was nice to hear some laughter today really nice.

The exposing of the Jersey Child Abuse Cover up will continue.

There are thousands of unanswered questions. As i have been informed even the Judge had some

Who? and where are the management of HdelaG?

Why wasn't complaints taken Seriously?

Questions Questions

Oh how this fight continues

rs

Ian Evans said...

SHOCK!!! as Haute De La Garenne Child Abusers are JAILED

GeeGee said...

Rico - yes I have just had an e-mail from Proud Survivor who was in Haut de la Garenne when she was a child. No longer resident in Jersey, but so pleased for those abused by the Jordans, and the outcome.

A noticeable silence by the Police on who exactly it was responsible for seeing this pair in Court. Lest we forget it was Lenny and Graham's watch was it not?

Anonymous said...

Does a general look at his soldiers, when about to go into serious battle and say right any of you have done some bad things in your life sling your hook.

No one is perfect Rico I agree with you. The fight ahead is the one that is important. Rallying the troops to the cause of good is an important skill. Stuart is wrong.

Zoompad said...

"Stuart is wrong"

Stuart is one of the kindest and humblest men I have ever met. He would be the very first person to admit that he is not always right.

He is a passionate man - passionate about justice. He was a rare thing, a honest politician. I was lucky enough to have Clair Short as my MP, so I know that there are other kind hearted honest and decent politicians, but not many as brave as Stuart.

I cant hear a word said about that man without jumping to his defence. Rico, I am sure you understand, and would fully support and understand me saying this, I think you are also wonderful for what you have done as well. Stuart has poured out his life to help other people, and been terribly persecuted for doing so, those courts are horrible frightening places, and remember he has had the police busting into his home, and death threats and horrible continuous insults all the time, the vile things that have been said about him, I never saw a finer and braver thing as what this good man has done.

Zoompad said...

"are you sure you need to go through FOI to get this information?"

No, I am not sure, I am just doing everything by trial and error, but I will get that nomination info somehow.

Zoompad said...

STUART IN TODAYS GUARDIAN

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=news&cd=2&ved=0CC0QqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Ftheguardian%2F2011%2Fjan%2F08%2Fjersey-tax-haven-nicholas-shaxson&ei=i3QoTePBKMSAhAeSv7DSAg&usg=AFQjCNG66SIoZNbHaqujH1xlKBLgaKX4fQ&sig2=J9nQmPHGGEWD9r6Pe69ioQ

Ian Evans said...

AND SPEAKING OF LAWYERS?

Ian Evans said...

DON'T THINK YOU WILL POST THIS?

Anonymous said...

Where's the Facebook campaign to revoke Frank Walker's OBE?