Thursday, June 16, 2011

HOLLYWOOD HARPER??? BDO Alto .10






Consultant Mike Kellett





Senator B.I. Le Marquand:

My opinion is that the right to a fair trial does not apply to suspension matters.  It does apply to disciplinary matters but not to suspension matters which are pro quo.  Nevertheless, clearly in any disciplinary matter one should proceed as rapidly as one is able so to do and that has always been my firm intention and remains so.

17th nov 2009






First up was the Metropolitan Police "Interim" Report . This was a review being carried out by the Met.  When sending the Interim Report to DCO Warcup on the 10th November 2008 the Met had yet to Interview former SIO Lenny Harper and ACPO's Andy Baker.  What the clowns did  with this Report is the stuff of Legend. They wrote a letter, made up some suspension letters, suspended the Chief of Police, shredded the suspension notes, trashed the Abuse Investigation,  and to cut a long story short, gave the Chief Executive  half a million quid and a nice fat pension. 




Then we have the Wiltshire Disciplinary Reports, 2 of them to be exact.  They started in December 2008 and didn't turn up until  sometime in March  2010. They missed every deadline  and cost us about £800,000. Wiltshire were taking so long producing these reports that what our Bungling Clowns did next is also the Stuff of Legend. They suspended the Chief of Police for a second time in June 2009.  Wiltshire now had 3 reports to do. Haven, Finance and Blast. 



 What happened next is already ingrained in Jersey Folk Lore. 



They took so long that the suspended Chief of Police actually retired. 



Not forgetting Senator ILM dropping all disciplinary actions against Graham Power and then proceeding to do one of the most shameful acts ever witnessed by someone in public office plus being allowed to get away with it. 




We come now to the infamous "BDO Alto Report"



Just when I thought I had covered it all concerning the issues surrounding this Report another Jaw Dropping moment arrived. During research last night, I thought,I must read the Wiltshire Finance 'redacted' report. What I came across blew me away. I reproduce part of the section. The report can be downloaded below




Wiltshire Finance Report;


1.10


This inquiry has concentrated on matters that only the Chief Officer could control. We have considered the findings of a consultant, Mr Mike Kellett,  and the content of a draft version of a consultancy report by BDO Alto. It should be noted that the final Report was not available prior to the finalisation of this Report, Whilst we concur with many of the Draft report's findings, we do not hold CO Power directly to be 'at fault' in all areas. However in the cases of expenses of the DCO and associated trips to London, we consider the lack of scrutiny provided by CO Power to typify his approach to supervision of expenditure on Operation Rectangle. In the case of these trips, again only CO Power could have supervised DCO Harper, and it is our contention that this did not occur. Evidence suggests that expenses submitted by the DCO where not signed by CO Power, in contravention of the Force's Travel and Expenses Policy. Whilst this policy allowed for an officer of rank below the DCO to sign these off on 'rare' occasions , this enquiry expresses concerns at the regularity of the 'exceptions' over the many months during which the Chief Officer was available to scrutinise and supervise his Deputy's personal use of public money


DOWNLOAD HERE 




So, Wiltshire, along with ILM & David Rose have seen a draft of this Report.


Wiltshire are printing, going along with & even discussing the Draft version of a Report that hadn't even contacted Lenny Harper or Graham Power.  Mr Mike Kellett worked along side David Warcup in compiling the BDO Report. surely they would have told Wiltshire that their report came with serious Caveats? This is beyond shameful 



When Senator Le Marquand gave his big show did he explain that these reports came with serious Caveats? 




This is a very expensive Sham 



Wiltshire never interviewed Lenny Harper concerning his expenses so they relied on BDO Alto who never interviewed Lenny Harper about anything. One thing is for sure. If Senator Le Marquand had turned up to disciplinary hearings with these reports he would have been blown away. There must be a copy of agreement between Wiltshire and BDO for sharing information, who signed this agreement? Did the Home Affairs Minister or his dept have a role in this? If there is no agreement and Data has been shared there may be criminal offences & Data Protection issues. I love how Wiltshire mention a lack of scrutiny yet they are quoting and using a report that is basically not fit for purpose and could never be used in a disciplinary hearing. So what are some of the problems with BDO




1. Never interviewed LH or GP


2. Quotes LH's confidential Wiltshire Statement



3. An Interim report is leaked to Child Abuse Denier David Rose



4. BDO send a forwarding letter that states they were engaged on the 29th September 2009 the interim Report is quoted in the Daily Maily on the 4th October 2009



5. BDO never state how witnesses were interviewed. Were they under oath?



6. The involvement of Acting Police Chief David Warcup who played a huge part in getting his Chief Suspended.



There are other issues but they can wait



Just how bad was the Abuse that these ridiculous lengths of Cover-up have been used? I believe Wiltshire just spotted a cash cow and milked it. Everyone new their reports wouldn't stack up but that doesn't matter in this little North Korean Island.



And what of BDO?



My opinion is that its an 'our chap report' no excuse for not contacting the SIO 




And the complaints body that looks over the likes of BDO might as well be called C.R.A.P. 





They are now asking Lenny harper to prove he has been stitched up


From: Lenny Harper 

To: lisa.mcneela

Sent: Thursday, 16 June, 2011 9:55:58

Subject: 85748 LM/sh



Dear Mrs McNeela,

 

Ref 85748 LM/sh

 

I reply to your letter of 15th June 2011;

 

The sea runs into the shore about one hundred yards from my front door.  I feel I may as well be standing there trying to turn back the tide as getting your organisation to do what Regulating Authorities are supposed to do, such is your obvious reluctance to get involved.  I have never known a body dealing with complaints to say, "okay, we see you have a complaint, you have given us the prima facie evidence, now go and prove it beyond all doubt and we will tell you what we might do about it."  I hope public confidence in your members does not rely on a rigorous complaints investigation system!!

 

I will revert to you next week with a more simplified version of what I have already supplied to you you.  Meantime, here is one little bit of information I have already given you which might be a clue as to why I think (as do others), that the BDO report may not have met the criteria contained in your own code of ethics.

 

1.  BDO are commissioned to investigate and to report back to the Home Affairs Minister on 29th September.

 

2.  Less than five days later, David Rose, the journalist who specialises in trashing historical abuse enquiries and who gave evidence to Parliamentary Select Committees on behalf of Frank Beck (Leicestershire Care Home Rapist), and the North Wales Care Home Child abuse rapists,, publishes an article quoting from the BDO report.

 

3.  Some eleven months later the report is "completed" by BDO and given to the MInister.  Lo and behold, the quotes from Rose are word for word perfect.

 

I pointed out to you previously, this can only mean that the report was in existence ten months before it was allegedly completed by BDO.  If this does not suggest that there is something amiss I may as well give up with you now.  Your request in your letter I received today to "produce the evidence" is bizarre.  However, I will come back to you next week with, as I said, a simplified version.

 


Yours sincerely,

Leonard Harper




What im finding here is so endemic of how Jersey is right now. I seriously believe the States of Jersey should be shut down because it's not fit for purpose. Our only saving grace is that the old school right wing dinosaurs are dying out. We have a chance at the next election. Jersey has a chance. 


Rico Sorda




44 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Our only saving grace is that the old school right wing dinosaurs are dying out. We have a chance at the next election. Jersey has a chance."
It does not. Jersey had its chance 3 years ago, just possibly it had a slim chance with Stuart Syvret's by election. The only option now is the nuclear one and the fall-out will hurt everyone innocent or not.

rico sorda said...

Before 2008 the voting middle to left was about 8 votes on a good day

Post 2008 it's up to 17/20

The next election is huge make no mistake. For the Feudal Barons to rain supreme they must control the chamber.

rs

Ian Evans said...

Christ, Mike Kellet looks like Grabwell's twin brother!!!

Anonymous said...

The bigger danger is the new school right wing politicians. They take you seriously and they will fight you all the way, because they have set their sights on running the crooked island gravy train when it becomes their turn.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

As well as other postings in this series I have once more e-mailed this posting to Jon Gripton Editor of BBC Jersey. I've asked him "Just how long can you hide this stuff from the public?"

You have done all the work for him, he just needs to cut and paste it, in good old Jersey "Journalism" fashion.

Anonymous said...

Senator B.I. Le Marquand:

My opinion is that the right to a fair trial does not apply to suspension matters. It does apply to disciplinary matters but not to suspension matters which are pro quo. Nevertheless, clearly in any disciplinary matter one should proceed as rapidly as one is able so to do and that has always been my firm intention and remains so.

17th nov 2009

OMFG

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

Oh are these people in so much trouble.

I'm going to be in court tomorrow morning - 10.00 a.m - for the purpose making an application to quash the prosecution decisions taken against me - on the unarguable ground that they were unlawful.

One of the centrally evidentially important matters that goes to my argument is, of course, the unlawful suspension of the Graham Power. That unlawful action was antecedent to the unlawful action taken against me.

I won't win tomorrow, of course - but don't worry. That outcome will, of itself, be very, very useful.

The actions of the Jersey authorities - and those who have been paid money to assist them in their criminal enterprises - such as BDO - are going to be held to account. One way or another.

Stuart

Res Nullius said...

"My opinion is that the right to a fair trial does not apply to suspension matters."

'Judge' Le Marquand appears to have forgotten the basic requirements set out in Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights which (paraphrased) reads as follows.

'1. In the determination of his civil rights and obligations everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law.'

Suspension matters, particularly when they involve public authorities, most certainly fit the definition of the 'determination of a person's civil rights and obligations' and therefore the States are bound by Article 6(1).

But Le Marquand knows this anyway.

Ian Evans said...

Rico says

"And what of BDO?

My opinion is that its an 'our chap report' no excuse for not contacting the SIO

And the complaints body that looks over the likes of BDO might as well be called C.R.A.P."

Rico, they (the States of Jersey) would 'never ever' use anyone who they could not manipulate to the extent they wanted, and needed to!

Anonymous said...

'I won't win tomorrow, of course - but don't worry. That outcome will, of itself, be very, very useful.'

How? Can you expand on how the suspension of Graham Power has a connection to you being voted out of your minesterial role of HSS? You are going to have to start making sense.

rico sorda said...

Hi Stuart

All the best for tomorrow I know its just another day in this long war. We must keep going. My real fears are also with the committee of no enquiry. That was passed on the 1st of March and still nothing.

It does sadden me when I see what has gone on.

All the Abuse Survivors, you, Lenny & Graham , Simon Bellwood when you look back its so obvious what the ruling elite did

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico,

The CEO of BDO International, Jeremy Newman, has a blog

http://blog.e-bdo.com/

It might be interesting to let him know what's going on in his comments section - he won't publish it, but he will read it and certainly visit your blog to understand more abot BDO Alto's involvement in the cover up of child abuse in Jersey.

You are doing a fantastic job.

Anonymous said...

Excellent comment by Stuart. The whole filthy mess of secret reports, police action and smear campaigns against Stuart, Lenny and Graham is so intertwined together. It will clearly illustrate patterns of conduct to the higher courts which can't be explained away as isolated mistakes. How could a fair appellate court then conclude the Jersey system functions according to any decent standards?

Elle

Anonymous said...

Rico, what does Lenny Harper make of Wiltshire using the bdo ?

Anonymous said...

Rico, BDO would not have interviewed witnesses under oath. They are accountants, hired to prepare a report. This was not a legally-mandated enquiry.

Lenny, your complaint to ICAEW must focus on specifics. For example ask them to consider whether BDO complied with their ethical code by:

1. Not attempting to contact you when preparing the report, or giving you a draft for comment (fairness, bias, professional competence)
2. Stating that they "did not have the opportunity to interview you" (factually incorrect / misleading implication that they tried)
3. Failing to respond your complaint about alleged inaccuracies and thereby failing to make any attempt to comply with the requirement to rectify a potentially inaccurate report.

General complaints about conspiracies are not likely to get much traction at this stage - too nebulous.

Damocles said...

From Lenny's email:

Some eleven months later the report is "completed" by BDO and given to the MInister. Lo and behold, the quotes from Rose are word for word perfect.

I pointed out to you previously, this can only mean that the report was in existence ten months before it was allegedly completed by BDO


Not necessarily. Playing Devil's Advocate, an alternative explanation is that BDO cut and pasted what Rose wrote and used it in their final report.

Anonymous said...

ILM could of saved the money not bothered with the reports cut with the pretence its was cut and dried once out in the open.

rico sorda said...

Damocles

Rose was leaked information. BDO had access to all the info through David Warcup.

"Rico, BDO would not have interviewed witnesses under oath. They are accountants, hired to prepare a report. This was not a legally-mandated enquiry."

How were they conducted? Are they still serving officers? Did they give written statements or was it just a chat? All without interviewing the main man. Was Warcup present during the interviews?

Ex-Senator Stuart Syvret said...

A reader says:

"'I won't win tomorrow, of course - but don't worry. That outcome will, of itself, be very, very useful.'

How? Can you expand on how the suspension of Graham Power has a connection to you being voted out of your minesterial role of HSS? You are going to have to start making sense."

That comment could be one of stark stupidity - or the pro-corruption drunken ramblings of a troll - or both.

My comment makes perfect sense - as it is made in reference to the illegal massed police raid, arrest, search with without a search warrant and corrupt malicious prosecution mounted against in respect of so-called data protection law matters.

Those unlawful actions - driven by the Office of Attorney General and William Bailhache personally - are the matters that are subject of the quashing application tomorrow.

I know intellectual rigour was never a strong point of the Jersey oligarchy, but look - do at least try to pay attention.

Stuart

Anonymous said...

BDO Alto 10. That is 10 pieces of investigative journalism explaining how BDO Alto is part of the team still covering up the crimes committed against children at Haut De La Garenne. Why don't any of these liars realize that Haut De La Garenne Official Cover Up Scandal Number Two will be at least as big, if not bigger, than the original story about the excavation? Even back then there were countless international mainstream media stories about the role of the Jersey government and local press in keeping abuse covered up for decades. Why would any entity, like BDO, knowingly allow themselves to be used as pawns in such easily deciphered continued complicity?

Anonymous said...

Reply to comment 10:08 Money, more work, more money, more work, more money.

Anonymous said...

"The next election is huge make no mistake. For the Feudal Barons to rain supreme they must control the chamber."

I don't believe the outcome of the forthcoming election will be quite as earth-shattering as you may hope.

I do believe THE big shift will start at the Senatorials following that.

It's a long game, but the end result will be worth the wait.

Anonymous said...

When you get your teeth into something your relentless. I can only imagine what you would uncover if you looked into the planning corruption allegations.

Anonymous said...

From an older statement by Lenny Harper on Stuart's blog,

"We received excellent rates for bed and breakfast way below what the hotels would normally charge. Not only that but Steven Austin Vautier at the Home Affairs Department, and the Treasury, were well aware of the rates, and at frequent meetings agreed that they were good value. Mr. Grimes himself reduced his rates and did not charge for many expenses. All costs were known to the Treasury as they were incurred, and of course the Chief Minister continually assured us that we should use whatever resources were necessary, even to the extent of criticising me for daring to suggest to the media that cost was an issue. “Cost is irrelevant” said civil service chief, Bill Ogley in an e-mail, “the investigation is the important thing” How then can they now criticise Graham Power or myself for the cost of the enquiry"

http://stuartsyvret.blogspot.com/2011/02/lenny-harper-witness-for-historic.htmlng.

Lenny Harper's statements bear repeating in relation to BDO Alto.

Anonymous said...

"I do believe THE big shift will start at the Senatorials following that."

Could anyone please explain to this reader from across the pond what elected representatives can do to prevent the Bailiff, Attorney General, and judges from doing as they please?

Chelloise

rico sorda said...

From the BDO report

" BDO has worked alongside Mr Michael Kellett in performing this Review. Mr Kellett is a former senior Investigating Officer serving in the UK, who also set up the North West Regional Asset Recovery Team. He has been separately engaged by the Acting Chief Officer , SOJP; however this report represents the joint findings of Mr Kellett and BDO"

How conflicted was David Warcup

He wrote the letter and sent the caveated Met Interim Report that got GP suspended. The whole thing is a Joke. How selective was he when working with Kellett.

From: Lenny Harper
To: i.lemarquand@gov.je
Sent: Tuesday, 10 May, 2011 22:35:09
Subject: Fw: My Wiltshire Statement - SECOND REQUEST


Dear (Jersey) Minister,

I would imagine that it is not incompetence, fear, dishonesty, or plain bad manners that has prevented you from even acknowledging my e mail of 3rd May, (perhaps an incompetent maverick among your staff failing to pass it on?) so please find below the same request repeated. As you have recently admitted some difficulty in understanding the written word I have highlighted the request in red for you.

Yours faithfully,

Lenny Harper

----- Reply message -----
From: "Ian Le Marquand"
Date: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:31
Subject: My Wiltshire Statement - SECOND REQUEST
To: "'Lenny Harper'"




Dear Mr. Harper, the answer to your request is a simple no. I originally took the view that it was quite sufficient for the Wiltshire reports and the BDO Alto reports to go into the public domain because they were independant reports. However, a number of States Members have urged me to also put a redacted version of Mr. Power's statements into the public domain and I have agreed, in principle, to do this although it will create some difficulties because it contains criticisms of third parties. There are issues which may arise not only in relation to Data Protection but also in relation to the law of libel.


Yeah, really independent

rs

rico sorda said...

When I started looking at the BDO Report it was solely because they never contacted nor interviewed Lenny Harper. As the researched progressed so other issues became known. This is the first email LH sent BDO and really goes to the hub of the problem

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Lenny Harper
To: client.services@bdo.je
Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011 22:55:58
Subject: BDO Report on Operation Rectangle


Dear Sir /Madam,
I am the former Deputy Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police and I was the Senior Investigating Officer on 'Operation Rectangle.' I made most of the decisions regarding the use of resources on that operation. I have, in the past week, become aware that Mr Ian Le Marquand, the Home Affairs Minister, commissioned you to examine the use of resources during the operation and that you submitted a report which was critical of my decisions. I am somewhat surprised that you felt able to do this without even contacting me to ask me a single question about the rationale for my decisions. Accordingly you have made assumptions which are totally incorrect and factually inaccurate. If you had contacted me I would have given you the information which would have prevented you from being so wide of the mark.

Mr Le Marquand states that he had no say in the decision not to interview me. He actually states that he remained independent. I presume you were working to a terms of reference and I would be grateful if you would tell me who composed your TOR, and if these included a specific instruction not to speak to me. It seems most strange that a reputable firm of accountants (which I presume you are) would compile a report passing judgement on the decisions on how to use resources without even speaking to the person who made those decisions. This is not a matter of hindsight, (although the hideous inaccuracies within your report are highlighted by hindsight) but a matter of commonsense. It would seem obvious for a report to have any integrity or credibility then the lead player should be consulted.

Another, perhaps even more serious matter, is that in several places in your report, you quote from a statement which I made to Wiltshire Police. This statement was made on a confidential basis to Wiltshire, for one purpose only, and that was a disciplinary investigation into another senior police officer. I was given an assurance that no one else would have access to it. You have quoted from it and thereby raise issues of Data Protection. Furthermore, on at least one occasion you have quoted incorrectly from it. The whole interview was tape recorded and you havequoted me as saying something at variance with what was actually said. Before deciding whether to take matters further with the Data Protection Commissioner I would like to know how you accessed my statement to Wiltshire and why you quoted it in a report which had nothing to do with the original purpose for which it was made.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Leonard Harper

Anonymous said...

Why would any entity, like BDO, knowingly allow themselves to be used as pawns in such easily deciphered continued complicity?

June 16, 2011 10:08 PM

What a strange question from probably a BDO manager.

Answer:- even more States work, sheds of taxpayers money and planning permission when needed. Job done now on to the next one.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9.12pm. That and more was all in my first letter to them two weeks ago. Lenny Harper

Anonymous said...

Anybody who knows how the Jersey electorate votes understands that the child abuse scandal and subsequent lies and cover-ups will be of no importance in the coming elections.

The only thing most people here care about is money.

99% of the local population doesn't give a monkey's about the fact that our police force can break into somebody's home and take their personal property without a warrant for something as trivial as data protection. Because it won't happen to them.

Or that our policitians and senior civil servants lie and lie and lie, and casually ruin peoples' lives and reputations, just to save face.
Because it won't happen to them.

They don't see that abuse of one person's rights is an abuse of everybody's.

Change will come here when "middle Jersey" really starts to feel the effects of years of chronic financial mismanagement in their pockets.

Anonymous said...

"What a strange question from probably a BDO manager. Answer:- even more States work, sheds of taxpayers money and planning permission when needed. Job done now on to the next one."

I agree with you. I suspect they are greedy dishonest bas*rds. I just wondered why they were stupid enough to fall for the idea of being paid participants in something that is bound to be exposed. I do believe they fell for it without considering the potential scandal for themselves. I think they will be tarnished by this as well they should be.

rico sorda said...

CHIEF MINISTER

Well done Deputy Pitman

rs

rico sorda said...

It really does amaze me how Senator ILM is still in office . After all that he has done he voted in the states not to have members interest posted online, can you believe that. Same as Deputy Power, the man who stole data and got it up online. Should we be surprised? NO

Anonymous said...

“Christ, Mike Kellet looks like Grabwell's twin brother!!!”
Interesting you should say that Ian, if you delve deep enough you will more than likely find something to show that both Mike Kellet and Mick Gradwell have worked together on many occasions previously. The photo in Rico’s blog posting would appear to have been taken whilst Mike Kellet was the Dectective Chief Inspector for the North West RART working with the Lancashire Police, the very same Lancashire Police force that Mick Gradwell retired from before coming to Jersey to help sabotage the historic child abuse investigation. Coincidence, I don’t think so!!!!!!
As usual Rico, a very good post. Keep up the good work, you are putting our local MSM to shame and they know it!!

GeeGee said...

Hi Rico - just quickly, and if you are not already aware, Stuart managed to get a mention in at Court today about the BDO Alto tale.

He held himself to very good account incidentally.

Anonymous said...

To Chelloise from across the Pond,

I don't think that our elected representatives (aka The States) actually have much control over the positions mentioned.

Am happy to be proven wrong by a more knowledgeable person, but otherwise, scary huh?

The Beano is not the Rag

Anonymous said...

WOW... Trevor Pitman. That is some brave politician. Who could argue with that censure motion.No one i suspect,but nevertheless TLS will have a large number of supporters who will support him regardless.
It would be interesting to have each of his blinkered supporters do a full on interview,explaining away all those thirteen points, assuming that they even take the time to read them.

Ian Evans said...

THE STREET OF 40 THIEVES STRIKES AGAIN

Anonymous said...

To The beano is not the Rag,

This is the real sticking point for foreigners when it comes to understanding Jersey. There has to be some tangible citizen power through their elected representatives, or through some specifically designated process in order for people to enforce democratic governance. If a system can't be adequately regulated and restrained or
if it does not have to be accountable to citizens, it just can't be considered workably democratic.

Without reasonable transparency, good citizen oversight is not possible. An informed electorate is essential to the concept of adequate self governance.

We can understand that Jersey has no impartial mainstream media and that some unpopular or untrustworthy people holding high level posts may have originally been appointed by democratically elected officials. Elected officials themselves may fall into disfavor. Those problems can and do occur in most countries. What is uniquely difficult for foreigners to accept is the role of UK appointments and Jersey's own process of then ensuring adequate oversight.

If the Bailiff is appointed by outside authorities, why do citizens (as individuals or through their elected representatives) not have a specified method to enforce higher standards on the behavior of the Bailiff? Or, can they exert a citizen right to FORCE UK oversight by means other than EU level hearings? Is that UK oversight guaranteed by some process which a duly elected official can initiate or is oversight only a pleasant pretense to placate the masses?

What is striking here is that bloggers and a few elected representatives have deconstructed the ongoing corruption and documented the need for oversight quite well. However, there is likely to be a long and expensive litigation process through court appeals for Stuart Syvret to obtain that oversight. Why is UK oversight not guaranteed through a normal constitutionally mandated process which can be instigated from Jersey? How can UK justify that since it seems impossible for the EU to legally accept Jersey's absence of democratic controls?

Is it wrong to presume that for Jersey's system to work there must be a designated way to force accountability on those who can appoint high officials and claim to have that oversight responsibility?

Chelloise

rico sorda said...

BDO Alto 11 will be going up tomorrow morning. If the facts concerning this report weren't shameful enough already, you, like me, will be utterly disgusted at what I will be publishing.

It has left me angry, disgusted and totally vindicated in my pursuit of the truth concerning this report.

It brings it right back to the very people this is all about The Victims of Decades Long Child Abuse in the Care of the States of Jersey

Do not miss tomorrows posting

rs

Anonymous said...

Chelloise,

Your views are very insightful. This does show that there are different levels of democracy.

Not having a say in one's political masters is not a new concept. I know that positions in the Australian Upper House are voted upon, but your Senate and the UK's House of Lords aren't. So I don't think that we here in Jersey are too different in that respect.

For the populace to take an interest into what the Bailiff is doing is a tricky one though. Until very recently, The States via its pet Media only told the population what it wanted them to know. So as far as the average person was concerned, all was tickety boo in that respect. I've just realised that you may not understand the term "Tickety Boo" - everything is alright. The internet has certainly changed that. Accountability to the UK certainly is there but will the UK take any action. I think that Stuart has proven that this is unfortunately unlikely. FACAW “F(r)iends at Court at Whitehall”. Hence the eventual Strasbourg route.

However, we must also look at the apathy level of the average person. I have been dumbstruck by some people's attitude. In particular case, one person told me that she didn't care about the corruption\covering up of the child abuse as long as she got her monthly pension. My grand mother in-law even told me that there shouldn't be this investigations into child abuse as it would be unfair on the family's of the abusers!! However, I know that she allowed the abuse of her children who in turn then beat their children - one of which is my spouse. And I have been told to like these people ..... a very strange situation I find myself in.

So for people like Stuart, Rico, Neil and Ian to stick their heads above the parapet is a very brave thing to do. With jobs declining, people are fearful of becoming unemployed. Consequently, the attitude of 'Oh I can't say anything" or 'I can't be seen at this demonstration' etc takes over. Is this right or wrong. Probably wrong, but self interest is a powerful force. But for those who do stand up must be supported by others. Maybe quietly and subtly (Stuart has mentioned that he has sources who will not even catch his eye in public, but privately helps the cause) due to their consciences but at least they do.

There has been some comment in the UK media of the dumbing down of society within the UK - ironically achieved by the use of the media. Planned? Well, I don't believe in coincidences when politics are involved; the rewards for the winners are just to great. This then has the affect of reducing the average person's interest in all things political. People are now much more concerned about the latest singer on the latest "talent" show or who the latest football player\golfer has been seeing behind his wife's back etc.
I recall a member of the Labour party in the UK getting sacked for advising Tony Blair that the 11th Sept 2001 would have been a good day to bury any bad news (aka release news unpalatable to the population knowing full well that most people would be concerned about the Twin Towers attack instead). This kind of thing goes on all the time, it was just that on this occasion the lady was caught out. I expect that she had upset someone within the Labour political machine and had this thrown at her to get her out.

I've rambled on too much and will close here.

The Beano is not the Rag

Anonymous said...

From Lenny Harper's affidavit on stuart's blog. (can't do link)

"One such example arose after a Daily Mail journalist telephoned the Chief Officer of Police, Graham Power, and told him that Senator James Perchard, the Health Minister, had given him a confidential police e mail."

Looks like the david rose contact is out now and what did Mr perchard know about the BDO report?

Anonymous said...

Rico, I'm pretty sure you have already been thoroughly vindicated in the eyes of anyone who is seeking the objective truth.

Elle

Anonymous said...

'I have never seen anything like this in 30 years. In respect of sexual offences I have been a detective for 22 years, I can show convictions for rapes and sex offences by predatory peadophiles as well as a huge number of murders, but I have never ever seen police working in this way, I really am absolutely shocked by what has gone on. It is abhorrent behaviour'

Mick Gradwell on leaving the force on the 2/9/2009

He was looking in the mirror at the same time