Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Answers please Senator- 'No' is not good enough



Below is an email I have sent Senator Le Marquand asking him to answer the question raised my Deputy T Pitman today during Questions without Answers.






Dear Senator Le Marquand



During questions without notice today you were asked a question from Deputy T Pitman about an investigation by South Yorkshire Police S/Y.  The Investigation by S/Y Police, was I believe, into the conduct of newly promoted superintendent Andre Bonjour. Here are some extracts from former retired DSO Lenny Harpers affidavit. 


As you can imagine the allegations are very serious in nature. There are far more details to this. I believe this will give you an idea as to what Deputy Pitman was referring to. 


There has always been allegations of the 'SOJP' not pursuing allegations of abuse in the past.  Im in no way suggesting that Mr Bonjour is guilty of any wrong doing or is guilty of any of the allegations labeled at him but in light of his recent promotion and the run up to the forthcoming Committee of Enquiry I believe it is of paramount importance that we know that S/Y Police fully vindicated Mr Bonjour of any wrong doing.



Superintendent Bonjour is also listed as sitting on the Jersey Child Protection Committee (JCPC). It goes without saying that there cant be any unanswered questions concerning his good character 



http://www.gov.je/Caring/Organisations/JCPC/Pages/AboutJCPC.aspx



I believe there is reference to this in Graham Powers sworn statement to Wiltshire. The report was concluded when David Warcup was DCO and he informed Mr Power that it was a "career changing event" for the officer concerned.



The reason for this email Senator is simple.  No one likes to ask difficult questions. Not the majority of our elected politicians nor any of our State owned Media. These questions must be asked and full honest answers given.  The issues are far to serious not to be addressed.



Deputy Pitman was right to ask you this today in the States. 



Truth, Honest & Integrity



Kind Regards 



Rico Sorda




From paragraph 64:


“For some time, Legal Advisor Laurence O’Donnell and I had been concerned at the difficulty in prosecuting paedophiles in cases of historic abuse.  This had been exacerbated by difficulties over the case of Paul Every, who was the commanding officer of the Jersey Sea Cadets and who was also a senior civil servant in the Chief Minister’s office.  He was arrested as part of the national “Operation Ore” where the FBI had netted thousands of suspects who had used their credit cards to pay for Internet sites involving child pornography.  He was one of a number of senior Sea Cadet officers arrested for serious sexual crimes against children.  After his arrest he had not been suspended from Sea Cadet activities and because of my concerns for the safety of the children involved, I disclosed the information about his arrest to the Sea Cadet authorities.  Among the sites he had searched on his computer were a number involving “naked sea cadets” and other child pornography sites.  The Sea Cadet authorities in Jersey were not responsive, telling me that a man “is innocent until proven guilty.”  I eventually had to go to London and threaten to stand at the gates of the Sea Cadet HQ and disclose to individual parents before they took action.”


From paragraph 65:


“The concerns led us in 2006 to start looking at cases which had been brought.  Early on I became worried about one case where a retired senior police officer (Chief Inspector de la Haye) was implicated in passing information to paedophiles about a police investigation but did not appear to have been interviewed.  It appeared that billing had been carried out on his telephones but had revealed nothing further.  I was still uneasy and asked the investigating officer why de la Haye had not even been interviewed.  She told me that she had been instructed not to by the then head of CID, Chief Inspector Bonjour.  This was even more of a concern than it would have normally been as the Head of CID was also an officer in the Jersey Sea Cadets.”


From paragraph 72:


“The report was submitted to CI Bonjour who was also the officer who had prevented de la Haye from being interviewed as mentioned earlier.  However, nothing ever materialised from Mr Bonjour and the officer had heard nothing.  Eventually an enquiry was carried out by South Yorkshire Police into the allegations against the Head of CID but it was still pending when I retired.”


53 comments:

Anonymous said...

no doubt being an internal inquiry we will hear no more.

Anonymous said...

What was the answer given when the question was asked?

Anonymous said...

People in other countries know that Andre Bonjour is suspected of obstructing Jersey child abuse complaints, yet you have to personally outline the info to Senator Le Marquand. The senator should eventually realize that between what is published here, by Team Voice, and by Stuart, particularly, there are many international readers who are well aware of the governments's dirty little secrets about the abuse cover-up. What an ostrich that man is.

rico sorda said...

"no doubt being an internal inquiry we will hear no more."

Not good enough when you take into account the seriousness of the allegations. This should be cleared up for all parties

rs

rico sorda said...

"What was the answer given when the question was asked?"

ILM said No

He wouldn't even look into it

rs

Anonymous said...

South Yorkshire police and Wiltshire are on twitter perhaps you could tweet them and ask directly.

Ian Evans said...

Le Marquand is a party to all this and will do everything to cover up the truth....A servile drone

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if De la Haye was the former officer who was recently arrested. Rico, could you find out...

Anonymous said...

66. Word was seeping out around the force of our interest and two officers came to see me. One of them told me of problems he had with the same senior officer (de la Haye) in an enquiry he was carrying out at Victoria College. I received a report from him in which he stated that he was one of the investigating officers in the case against a man called Jervis Dykes who was a teacher at Victoria College. Allegations were being made against Dykes that he abused children whilst on outings of the Combined Cadet Force (Naval Section) or on sailing trips around Jersey and to Greece. Dykes was later convicted of a number of indecency offences.


67. The officer told me that he tried to make enquiries at St Helier Yacht Club as it was alleged that Dykes took the boys there. However, he was prevented from doing so by the then CI de la Haye, who told the detective that he was not to attend the club without de la Haye going with him. When the detective went to the club with de la Haye he was not allowed to see the club register but had dates read out to him by the Chief Inspector.


68. The Club Secretary however arranged for the detective to see the register without CI de la Haye being present and the detective discovered that a group of senior officers including de la Haye attended the club frequently when Dykes was there with students.


69. The officer remembers being under great pressure to drop the case involving Victoria College as it was doing harm to the reputation of the institution. He remembers receiving threats that his career would be damaged. He recalls also that exhibits were going missing, resulting in them having to be locked away in the Detective Inspector’s safe

Anonymous said...

The above extracts have been taken from the Sworn Affidavit of Lenny Harper. The report from South Yorkshire Police is critical not least because the man who is so implicated has just been promoted in the SOJP.

Could this be an insight as to what has been going on. One person covering-up for another.

"There has always been allegations of the 'SOJP' not pursuing allegations of abuse in the past. Im in no way suggesting that Mr Bonjour is guilty of any wrong doing or is guilty of any of the allegations labeled at him but in light of his recent promotion and the run up to the forthcoming Committee of Enquiry I believe it is of paramount importance that we know that S/Y Police fully vindicated Mr Bonjour of any wrong doing"

Rico, you are now on the money.

Anonymous said...

'Ah - Andre Bonjour! As I have commented previously he was an officer in the Sea Cadets and a member of the SoJP when a junior member of my family was assaulted whilst in the Sea Cadets.
I have approached Mr Bonjour about this and he is fully aware of the case, but chose to do nothing about it at all and told me I would have to speak with the CID when he WAS the CID!!
I think the arrogant Ian Le Marquand needs an e-mail from me as well'

Anonymous said...

Did you or did you not lie before scrutiny?

Anonymous said...

RICO

Still no news on why you lied before scrutiny

See transcripts and the notes thereon

You really are a muppet publish if you do but this is going on the **** *** blog as you are a proven liar!

Anonymous said...

Any excuse for lying then?

Please see the suffixes to your evidence.

This is why citizen media is appalling

You will not be sued as you have no funds. If on the other hands if you were mainstream media you would.

Anonymous said...

Obviously, South Yorkshire Police S/Y must have given Andre Bonjour a 'clear bill of health' otherwise he could not possibly have been considered worthy of being promoted to superintendent, surely not!!

Of course, if he was found to have been up to no good, such as obstructing an investigation, then he should not even be in the Police Force!!

Ian Evans said...

"THE JERSEY WAY"

rico sorda said...

RICO

Still no news on why you lied before scrutiny

See transcripts and the notes thereon

You really are a muppet publish if you do but this is going on the **** *** blog as you are a proven liar!


So, giving me the evidence of your complaint.

There are some very serious issues concerning the Bdo Review not least Mick Gradwell but I suppose that doesn't concern people of your ilk.

rs

Anonymous said...

Referring to another poster RS if you did lie before scrutiny then your evidence would be diminished so I hope for the sake of the survivors you did check your facts carefully

rico sorda said...

For the record I didn't lie about anything.

Also, I have allowed these comments through as I find it interesting that when I hit on a certain subject the diversionary stuff starts.

The whole Bonjour Sketch has really hit a nerve

I wont get side tracked

Sorry

rs

Anonymous said...

RS the transcript of your evidence does say that the person you referred to never worked for BDO - what on earth have you done?

rico sorda said...

Anonymous

You have woken me up again and I must thank you for this. I had over looked this issue as so much damning evidence was being produced from the Bdo hearings.

I have decided to do a blog posting on this very issue.

Bdo assured the panel that this person never worked for them. We have to take their word for that. Did they out-sourse their work?

Im glad you have an interest in this.

What is your take on Bonjour and Gradwell or isn't that in your remit

Im still waiting for my reply from ILM and will inform you and my readers as soon as I do

rs

Anonymous said...

From paragraph 64:

“For some time, Legal Advisor Laurence O’Donnell and I had been concerned at the difficulty in prosecuting paedophiles in cases of historic abuse. This had been exacerbated by difficulties over the case of Paul Every, who was the commanding officer of the Jersey Sea Cadets and who was also a senior civil servant in the Chief Minister’s office.

It would be very interesting to hear what Legal Advisor Laurence O’Donnell had to say about the HCAE. You are correct in highlighting the South Yorkshire Police investigation. Senator Le Marquand must answer your concerns.

Anonymous said...

Lost your States salary? No problem just get shot of your motor:

Terry needs the money

rico sorda said...

69. The officer remembers being under great pressure to drop the case involving Victoria College as it was doing harm to the reputation of the institution. He remembers receiving threats that his career would be damaged. He recalls also that exhibits were going missing, resulting in them having to be locked away in the Detective Inspector’s safe

Can someone point to where the Sharp Report is online. The above, from Harpers Affidavit, is just staggering, remember this is a sworn Affidavit. I am looking more and more into the culture of the Police as to why they did nothing in breaking the veil of secrecy that led to horrific Abuse in the Jersey Care Homes. How was it able to carry on decade after decade? The allegations in Harpers Affidavit are horrendous. This must be looked at during the Committee of Enquiry.

The decent politicians must guard the integrity of this enquiry as much as they can.

Ask yourself why they didn't want it in the first place.

rs

Anonymous said...

SHARP REPORT

Anonymous said...

SHARP REPORT

Anonymous said...

Chief Inspector De La Haye

This name has cropped up with the Dyke & Romeril Affair

Interesting!!!!!

Anonymous said...

PRESS RELEASE
 
 
 
 
The Comité des Connétables is pleased to announce the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding between the Honorary Police and the States of Jersey Police.  Under this Memorandum, the States of Jersey Police will provide training for the present and future members of the Honorary Police in various aspects of police work.
 
The Comité wishes to take this opportunity of acknowledging and thanking Centenier Malcolm L’Amy of St. Peter, Chairman of the Training Sub-Committee of the Chefs de Police, who together with Centenier Danny Scaife of St. Helier, have taken the lead role in the establishment of this training programme.  Together they have got agreement of the details of the training to be undertaken by the States of Jersey Police, and have also produced a new Training Manual which will be available to all officers. They have committed themselves to very many hours of honorary work in achieving this, and the Comité des Connétables wishes to commend them highly for their dedication in this matter. 
 
The Comité would further like to thank Mr. John de la Haye, former Chief Inspector of the States of Jersey Police who, on his retirement from the Force, undertook Honorary Police training.  Mr. de la Haye’s contribution to the Honorary Police of the Island has been invaluable. 
 
 
 
Issued by: Comité des Connétables 23 January 2007.
 
Further details: Ken Vibert, Connétable of St Ouën and Chairman of the Comité des Connétables.
 

Anonymous said...

why would anyone help cover=up child abuse? Let alone a police officer? These allegations are deadly serious. There is no way a police officer would be sitting on the JCPC let alone be promoted unless he was squeaky clean.

Anonymous said...

Rico an affidavit may be sworn and it is only one person's version of events people do lie in them much the same way as in court when guilty people deny their acts even if they are on oath

Anonymous said...

Rico an affidavit may be sworn and it is only one person's version of events people do lie in them much the same way as in court when guilty people deny their acts even if they are on oath

I believe thats why he is using the word alleged allegations. They must be investigated.....

Anonymous said...

Rico why should every allegation be investigated. Also as an affidavit is a statement of truth you cannot put third party here say and so that you know it to be true!

Anonymous said...

Thanks to the poster who gave us the link to Tel Boys car....... just take a moment to have a look at Tit le Main's feedback and see what he's been buying......

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Does the fear of an independent Police Force TERRIFY THE ESTABLISHMENT?

rico sorda said...

"Rico why should every allegation be investigated. Also as an affidavit is a statement of truth you cannot put third party here say and so that you know it to be true!"

South Yorkshire Investigated- That is not hear say

The Abuse and Potential cover-up of innocent children is enough to ask the questions others wont.

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico, remember, a police force within a police force. Anyone remember Planning Corruption? 3yrs ago this month the Deputy of Grouville went to the police with allegations of planning corruption. What has happened with that? Have they even investigated it?

Ian Evans said...

WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DAY MAKES

Anonymous said...

1. An affidavit is a written statement of facts voluntarily made by an affiant under an oath or affirmation administered by a person authorized to do so by law.

2. An affidavit is voluntarily made without any cross-examination of the affiant and, therefore, is not the same as a deposition, a record of an examination of a witness or a party made either voluntarily or pursuant to a subpoena, as if the party were testifying in court under cross-examination.

3. An affidavit is based upon either the personal knowledge of the affiant or his or her information and belief. Personal knowledge is the recognition of particular facts by either direct observation or experience. Information and belief is what the affiant feels he or she can state as true, although not based on firsthand knowledge.

Of the above, number 3 is the most important, since it allows for "belief" or what a person "feels he, or she can state as true, although etc."

Take, for example, Graham Power's file note following the meeting he attended where he "felt" or "believed" that he was being asked to become part of a plot to remove a serving minister from office.

The file note is a fact. The meeting is a fact, but Mr. Power's "belief" is not a fact. Even though he may believe it to be 100% true (and I genuinely believe Graham Power to be a very upright and honest man), it cannot be proven and,so, must remain his belief, or interpretation.

The same is true of his belief that the words "So be it," in an e-mail from the Attorney General were "threatening." Again, the existence of the words is provable (if Mr. Power has kept a copy of the e-mail) but his "belief" or interpretation as to their meaning is simply that - one man's belief.

"So be it" has a number of meanings - mainly one of resigned acceptance of the status quo, but without any vocal inflection, or tone of voice (which the written word can't convey)it's impossible for anyone to say for a fact what the writer actually meant to say.

In court, under cross-examination (to which affidavits are not subject) any half-decent brief would force Mr. Power to admit that he had no real grounds for his belief, or interpretation - except for the fact that he and the AG were in disagreement.

People rarely lie in affidavits, but the biggest problem with them is that while they're meant to be statements of fact, they do allow an inevitably personal and personalised interpretation of those facts to be also included.

rico sorda said...

Very true Anonymous. We don't get much back from the other side apart from straight denials..

I really want to know that South Yorkshire totally cleared Andre Bonjour. I also want to know if Andre Bonjour was denied promotion whilst David Warcup was at the station but then gained it after Mike Bowron arrived.

rs

Anonymous said...

[I really want to know that South Yorkshire totally cleared Andre Bonjour.]

Exactly, this is fundamental question that you posed on this thread. It is not concerned with an affidavit, it concerns an investigation!!

Well done Rico, keep on the case, and ignore any diversionary ramblings.

rico sorda said...

I will keep asking the questions make no mistake about that. I was feeling a bit down about it all a few weeks back & even considered jacking it in then some lunatic handed out some leaflets saying I was a danger to women and that they should contact the police. I kid you not, this is the gospel truth. Stuff like that has the opposite effect on me. Instead of running away it makes me even more determined it was the good kick in the ass I sometimes need.

I want to know why the main players at CTV, BBC and the JEP are playing an active role in the Cover-up of the historical Child Abuse Investigation. This is plain fact. Look at everything that has been published, investigated and exposed on the blogs.

They. the State Media, have made it virtually impossible for anyone to come forward and report any form of abuse happening in care homes across Jersey. They have ridiculed the investigation and the people who ran it so much that no one will chance speaking out. That, in my own humble opinion is the tragic legacy being left by this present day State Media.

rs

Zoompad said...

"I want to know why the main players at CTV, BBC and the JEP are playing an active role in the Cover-up of the historical Child Abuse Investigation. This is plain fact"

So do I. Incidentally, the writer of that book THE APPALLING VISTA is a man who calls himself Brian Rothery. That book is sick, and I keep nagging everyone who wants to stop the institutional child abuse cover up scandal to read it, because it is a boast of how the "Orees" pulled off getting the Operation Ore investigation discredited, and the HDLG investigation is mentioned in the book as well.

Incidentally, there is a Dr Brian Rotheray who works for BBC Monitering - I do not know if he the same man, but would like to know.

rico sorda said...

To Anon

Cheers for the comment. Information like that is always helpful. I wont publish your comment as requested. Keep on reading the blog and im sure our paths will cross very soon.

Thanks again

No backing down

Truth, Honesty & Integrity

I wont be outsourcing my work lol

RS

Zoompad said...

"I wont be outsourcing my work lol"

GOOD!

Never ever ever allow any third party to "help" you with your admin.

It's the golden rule I used during the two years I was posting about PAS and FMS on MFJ.

Keep up the good work xx

rico sorda said...

2370

JERSEY AND THE IMPRISONMENT OF STUART SYVRET

3:11:11





John Hemming





* 1

That this House notes the imprisonment of Stuart Syvret; believes that the public authorities of the island of Jersey do not operate in a manner compliant with the requirements of the European Commission of Human Rights (ECHR), there being overt and significant overlaps and contaminations between the legislature, executive and judiciary; further notes that Her Majesty's subjects in Jersey are not protected by effective checks and balances, and that there has been the political repression of former Chief Police Officer, Graham Power and former Senator Stuart Syvret; further notes that, notwithstanding the responsibility the Secretary of State for Justice has for good governance and Convention Rights in Jersey, the island's authorities are permitted to repress opposition activists, and that the Secretary of State for Justice and Jersey's Lieutenant Governor have failed to act; further notes that successive governments of the United Kingdom have committed this nation to securing real democratic freedoms and the rule of law in other jurisdictions, yet in the British enclave of Jersey on the United Kingdom's very doorstep, ordinary powerless people are oppressed by an entrenched oligarchy; and calls on the Secretary of State for Justice to appoint an independent Commission similar to that which investigated corruption in the Turks and Caicos Islands, to investigate the conduct of Jersey's public administration and to urgently bring the protections of the ECHR to Her Majesty's subjects in the island.

Anonymous said...

Stuart was deaf throughout 1999 when child abuse was mentioned

Revealed May 2008


Discuss

JEP 4 november 2011

Zoompad said...

"Stuart was deaf throughout 1999 when child abuse was mentioned

Revealed May 2008"

There's nothing to discuss.

Stuart said himself that he found it difficulot to believe the horrible abuse at first.

Stop straining your eyes for rocks to hurl at this good man. You won't find any, you'd be better off packing up your little bag for your place in prison Troll.

Remember Daniel and the Lions Den? The bad guys plotted against Daniel, they got him put in the lions den but the Lord kept those lions from eating Daniel. When the king, who liked Daniel, went to look in the morning he was overjoyed to find Daniel was still alive, so he got him out and threw the bad guys in there instead, and the lions made short work of them.

That's what is going to happen to you, praise the Lord.

Anonymous said...

Stuart never knowingly covered up child abuse, as did many political and civil authorities. He has discussed this many times, and explained how he was lied to by those reporting to him. Why do I believe him? He has consistently called for more thorough, transparent investigations into all aspects of this issue, and has the support of the abuse survivors, survivor organizations and honest police investigators. He has even apologized for his failure to detect serious abuse when he was deliberately misinformed by cover-up agents of the civil service. You, the commenter, already know this so the topic is a red herring.

Anonymous said...

Stuart was deaf throughout 1999 when child abuse was mentioned

Revealed May 2008


Discuss

JEP 4 november 2011

LOL

THE JEP

LOL

THAT IS SO FUNNY

THE JEP HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anonymous said...

26th February 2008

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/documents/hansard/44514-31776-1232008.htm#_Toc192468804

5.1.4 Senator S. Syvret:
In the light of that answer, could the Chief Minister just expand on it somewhat by just saying unambiguously that also he wishes to see the charging and prosecution of anyone who has a case to answer for failing to meet their legal obligations and duties under the Children Law 1969 or the Children Law 2002, anyone that may have engaged in actions which amount to an attempt to pervert the course of justice and anyone who may have committed these kind of offences in a manner that gives rise to the common law offence, Misconduct in Public Office?

Ian Evans said...

LOOKOUT PAEDO ABOUT!

Ian Evans said...

The SYVRET STORY and the FALL of the Oligarchy....

Anonymous said...

"then some lunatic handed out some leaflets saying I was a danger to women and that they should contact the police"

Good on you for standing up against such cowardly behaviour. The type of scum that would stoop to such a level make me ashamed to be Jersey born. I really dont understand that small town hick mentality. I really hope the scum that has begun that gets their day in court.

The sad thing is though that until those scum are in court or are named and shamed then it only goes to reiterate why people are scared to voice their opinions.

This is Jersey, a hick town run by scumbags who have no limits to the depths they will go to to ensure their "good" names are intact. Scum is the best word for them.