Thursday, June 14, 2012

Scrutiny Review - The Findings- 2


JERSEY STATE MEDIA EXPOSED BY BLOGGERS



HOW DID DAVID ROSE GET INVOLVED WITH THE  HISTORICAL CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATION (HCAE)


HOW DID D/SUPERINTENDENT MICK GRADWELL SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICER OF THE JERSEY HISTORIC CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATION BECOME INVOLVED WITH HIM?


REMEMBER THE  JERSEY STATE MEDIA DIDN'T RUN WITH THIS


THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICER OF JERSEY'S "HCAE" MICK GRADWELL WAS LEAKING TO  THE UK JOURNALIST WHO WAS TRASHING THE INVESTIGATION - OUR MEDIA DON'T TOUCH IT -WHY?



SIMPLE  - THEY WERE IN ON IT - THAT WILL BE THE NEXT POSTING


Then I read the transcripts from Home Affairs Minister Senator Le Marquand dated Friday 15th July 2011 that in October 2009 he was fully aware that Mick Gradwell had been leaking information - due to some excellent detective work from his staff.


WHAT DID HE DO ABOUT THAT? THE "HCAE" WAS STILL LIVE. 


HE WAS DEALING WITH THE SUSPENSION OF GRAHAM POWER THAT D/SUPT GRADWELL HAD PLAYED A PART IN.


THIS IS GOING WAY BEYOND A JOKE; More on this in a later posting.


The Minister for Home Affairs:
No.  The first I was aware of an issue in relation to D/Supt Mick Gradwell was when he went public just before he left the Island and that was the first time.  I viewed this as merely a continuation of that, he had already gone public with his views to the local press, radio.  It is my understanding from David Warcup that Mick Gradwell, although he was asked very strongly not to do anything before he went, and not just by David Warcup, but I understand even by the Attorney General of the day, again this is hearsay, this is obviously what I have been told, that he had already pre-recorded interviews before he had left.  So that is the first that I was aware of an issue, and then of course my staff picked up the Mail article and they did some excellent detective work, emailing, and then sent to me the consequences of that, which clearly pointed to Mick Gradwell.  I have to say, when the issue came up again, I had completely forgotten about this, I had just totally forgotten about it.  I had to look back and find the emails and then say: “Oh yes, now I do recall it”, because it was not that significant to me once I knew it was Mick Gradwell.



What I produce in this post  is based on evidence 


David Rose wrote 3 articles for the Daily Mail which were trashing the "HCAE"


18th May 2008





15th November 2008




4th October 2009




The introduction of David Rose was in my opinion very calculated. The Jersey Establishment needed someone to start trashing the Historic Child Abuse Investigation in the national press.


The reason for looking is very simple. There is a connection between Rose, Gradwell and The Jersey State Media. The agenda from the offset was to opinion manage peoples perception of the "HCAE".


This for me dates back to May 9th 2008 with the then Bailiff Sir Philip Bailhace's Liberation day speech. 




I talk a little about the  culture of fear that exists in Jersey. The below link and interview is well worth a watch.

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2010/11/culture-of-fear.html


But let us look at former SIO Mick Gradwell. 


 It is this Policeman's  actions that are at the heart of everything.  Why did Mick Gradwell get involved with David Rose? David Rose had already set out his agenda in  May 2008.  This was 4 months before  Mick Gradwell had started his secondment to the SOJP.  Looking back through the archives Mick Gradwell trashes the investigation under Lenny Harper and his team at any given opportunity. He was there with Deputy Chief Officer David Warcup when they gave there infamous briefing to ministers on the day before the  suspension of the then Chief Police Officer Graham Power QPM.


What I will be doing now is looking at the evidence that was supplied to the Scrutiny Sub Panel. This review is so important. It will come into play during the forthcoming 'COI'. One of the questions that needs answering is the actions of Mick Gradwell.


During my lnvestigations I came across an article written by David Rose on the 4th October 2009 in which the said journalist was quoting extracts from Police Consultant Mike Kelletts draft notes - confidential notes that had been given to a select few. The final BDO report didn't come out until May 2010.  I started asking questions and what unfolded left me shocked. The article can be read on the link above.


I ask the readers to really look at what BDO & Police Consultant Mike Kellett say about the leaking of their information. This is of the most serious nature. This information was given under oath.  BDO  even question the leaking of information to David Rose back in November 2008. They even asked what  what was done about that leak.


This is what BDO Alto said concerning the leaking by Mick Gradwell




PART C: THE “LEAK” TO A MAIL ON SUNDAY JOURNALIST 

33. The Sub Panel has raised a concern that, “[BDO’s] letter of engagement was dated 29th September 2011 [sic]; however, just a few days later an ‘interim report by financial auditors’ was leaked to the Mail on Sunday (4th October 2009). It appears that a Senior Police Officer was responsible for this leak.” 

35. We have raised our concerns with both the Panel and the Chairmen’s Committee regarding the fact that this Scrutiny Review’s terms of reference appears to be based on, or was at least heavily influenced by, the content of one particular blog site, which contains much speculation and is not in possession of full facts. 

Background to the Mail on Sunday press coverage 

41. The “leak” referred to by the Sub Panel relates to an article published in The Mail On Sunday and on the Mail Online website on 4 October 2009, authored by a journalist called Mr David Rose. The title of the article was “Bungled Jersey child abuse probe branded a ‘£20 million shambles’”19

42. The article includes reference to “a leaked report by financial auditors into the investigation”. However, far from simply being an article written about financial aspects of the investigation, the article reveals the findings of a three-month investigation carried out by The Mail on Sunday. This article quotes from Mr Mick Gradwell, the Senior Investigating Officer who replaced Mr Harper following his retirement, Acting Chief Officer David Warcup, Mr Martin Grime, the NPIA’s Chief Executive, a former Metropolitan Police Commander (through a spokeswoman) 
as well as an unnamed “Jersey government spokeswoman”20.  

43. In fact, Mr Rose had been covering the investigation for some time and his use of “leaked” documents in the 4 October 2009 article was not the first time.
  
44. An earlier article dated 15 November 2008 was titled “How police chief Lenny Harper lost the plot over the Jersey children’s home ‘murders’”21. In that article, Mr Rose notes “… The Mail on Sunday has obtained confidential documents, including a crucial email written by Mr Harper and the official log book kept by his own forensic science team. They show he repeatedly misled both the media and the island’s government, and made a series of statements that proved to be 
inaccurate.” [our emphasis]  

45. This November 2008 article also quoted from numerous individuals involved in the investigation including Mr Harper, SIO Gradwell, Mr Frank Walker, a named professor from the Sheffield University Centre for Human Identification and an LGC spokeswoman. We are not aware as to whether the “leak” of material referred to in Mr Rose’s article of November 2008 has been investigated. Even in that article details of financial expenditure were being discussed; the article refers to “… the police are also said to be concerned at the inquiry’s profligate 
expenditure – such as a decision to send two officers First Class to Australia, and 
a £100,000 bill for the use of Eddie the sniffer dog.” 

46. And in fact, as early as 24 May 2008, Mr Rose was discussing the costs of the investigation at Haut De La Garenne. In his article titled “Jersey police failed to reveal that tested ‘skull’ was coconut”22 he reported, “Last night it was revealed his [Mr Harper’s] investigation at Haut de la Garenne is set to cost £6.5 million this year – about £20,000 per day since the inquiry began on February 23.”  

47. This is important context because the terms of reference for this Scrutiny Review might otherwise imply that there was no financial or other confidential information in the public domain, whether “leaked” or released, and therefore that the article in The Mail on Sunday on 4 October 2009 came ‘out of the blue’. That is clearly not the case and much had already been reported. 

Material “leaked” to the Mail on Sunday journalist 

48. BDO and Mr Kellett discussed the David Rose article of 4 October 2009 the very next day, on Monday 5 October. Both BDO and Mr Kellett were concerned and upset that confidentiality had been compromised. 

49. The nature of the leaked material was immediately clear. It was not and could not have been an ‘interim report by financial auditors’ that had been leaked to The Mail on Sunday because no draft report was in open circulation by that date. 

50. The email trails that follow provide a full contemporaneous record of discussions and correspondence that took place on 5, 6 and 7 October 2009. 

51. The Home Affairs Department wrote to BDO as follows23

“I was concerned to read an article about the HCAE in the Mail on Sunday yesterday that stated that the newspaper has had sight of 'a leaked report by financial auditors', the report is later referred to as 'the team's interim report'. The article does not mention BDO but quotes David Warcup as telling the Mail on Sunday that 'he had appointed an independent team of auditors to examine Harper's spending.' 

If the report referred to is indeed your report I would be grateful for an explanation of how the draft was allegedly made available to the Mail on Sunday reporter when neither the Minister for Home Affairs, the Accounting Officer or myself have yet seen a copy of your draft report.” 

52. BDO responded by email on the same day, extracts from that email24

“To confirm, the draft report has not been provided to anyone by BDO Alto, and in fact no copies have been provided to any party including Home Affairs … there 
are no copies in circulation as far as we are aware. I understand that drafts of Mike Kellett's work were circulated to Mr Gradwell, amongst others including the Wiltshire team, during drafting stage - this included sections on Mr Grime, the deployment of [named officer] and meals in London. I  have not yet been able to speak to Mike today, however I know that he circulated 
copies of his work on a confidential basis and was also minded that confidentiality was to be maintained at all times, and that the Report output needed to be on a 'privileged' basis. It does seem more likely to be the case that it is initial drafts of Mike's work that have been seen by the newspaper rather than our Report - although I have no evidence of that, and nor can we speculate as to the source …  

The wording included in the newspaper appears to be taken from Mike's original drafting, as discussed above. I would again stress that the Report has not been made available to anyone by BDO, and that confidentiality is of paramount importance to us. Neither has any comment been made by us to any media, and the only discussions relating to his Report are as between ourselves, Mike Kellett and yourselves.” 

53. Mr Kellett sent an email to BDO on 6 October 2009 and a copy of that email was forwarded by BDO to Home Affairs the next day25. Extracts from that email: 

“I am shocked that drafts of sections of our report (and not the 'interim' report, as inaccurately stated in the article) have been leaked to the press and published in this fashion, which is unhelpful to say the least and does nothing to serve the public interest. I agree with you that the quotes cited in the Mail on Sunday appear to be from the very first drafts of my work, as at least one of them appeared only in initial draft and was excised from the document drafted to 
consolidate my work and that carried out by you and [BDO employee]. Given that fact, the probable source of the leak is clear to me.  

Apart from you, the initial drafts were also sent to David Warcup, to the Wiltshire team and to Mick Gradwell, for information and for feedback on accuracy of content and on style. None of these recipients received any of the updated drafts, neither those done by me to my initial work nor the consolidated drafts prepared by you … 


Let us now look at what Police Consultant Mike Kellett said:

Deputy R.G Le Hérrisier:
Okay, I wondered if we could move to possibly our final topic, the leak.  I wondered, Managing Director, as you know, your report appeared in the ... either the report or words that were remarkably similar to your report appeared in a national newspaper.  What is your explanation of this if, indeed, you do have one?

Managing Director, BDO Alto Limited:
Yes, just to clarify, and it is in our written submission, the material that was leaked to the newspaper was not a BDO work product.  I cannot comment on what was leaked to the media.  As again we say in our written submission, we provide you with copies of the correspondence with Home Affairs on 5th October 2009.  This matter was clearly brought to our attention.  We were concerned that anything that was related to our review was finding its way into the national media.  As I say, it was not a BDO report.  There was not an interim report at that point in time.  What appears to have been leaked were, again, some of the early drafts of some of [Police Consultant]’s work.  He might want to say something about that.

Deputy R.G Le Hérrisier:
As a result of your subsequent inquiries and your contact with Home Affairs, did you come to a considered judgment as to how it had occurred and who had done it?

Managing Director, BDO Alto Limited:
I think, when we had an opportunity to have a look at the article that had been published on the Mail on Sunday, it became clear to us what material was being quoted from.  Therefore, from our perspective, we were able to narrow down where that material had gone, but as I say it was not a BDO interim report.  It was not an interim report at all, in fact.

Deputy R.G Le Hérrisier:
But it was material that came from your office, so to speak.

Managing Director, BDO Alto Limited:
No, it did not come from our office.

Deputy R.G Le Hérrisier:
You do not think so.

Managing Director, BDO Alto Limited:
No.

Police Consultant:
The circumstances of the source are as set down in my written submission.  The source was [retired D/Superintendent].  He has admitted that to me in telephone conversations.  He first telephoned me about a week or so after the article appeared.  I had already worked out that it was probably him.

Deputy R.G Le Hérrisier:
Yes.

Police Consultant:
I deplore what he did.  I have told him I deplore what he did.  In terms of why he did it, you would have to ask him.  He says - so what he told me - and he has repeated that in recent telephone conversations that he has made to me arising out of the establishment of this Panel that he did not give copies of my written work, but he disclosed the contents of some of them to a reporter.  It was not BDO at all.  It is not me.  It was not Wiltshire or [then Acting Police Chief].  It was [retired D/Superintendent].

Deputy T.M. Pitman:
Out of interest, did he seek to justify what he had done to you?

Police Consultant:
He gave a reason, but I think ...

Deputy T.M. Pitman:
Well, we do hope to speak to him. We do not know whether he will.

Police Consultant:
I do not think it is appropriate for me to ...

Deputy T.M. Pitman:
Just for the record, you are saying he said he did not actually show documents to a journalist.  He verbally, because you said he had not shown.  That is what you have just said.

Police Consultant:
I cannot remember at this distance to say his exact words.  What he says is content.  Whether he handed documents or whether he had no idea, I am not sure.

The Deputy of St Mary:
If we cannot talk to [retired D/Superintendent], we will be able to fire you off a letter to ask for a bit more detail on the contents of that particular conversation.

This is from Mike Kelletts submission


PUBLICATION OF DETAILS OF THE REVIEW IN A NATIONAL NEWSPAPER

23.                The first I knew of the article published in the Mail on Sunday on 4th October 2009 was the following day, when I received a telephone call from the Managing Director of BDO Alto to inform me of the fact. During my time in Jersey and since, I have had absolutely no contact, formal or informal, with any journalist.
24.                For the reasons set out in the written submission of BDO Alto, it is clear that it was not an ‘interim report’ or the consolidated report that was leaked to the newspaper but rather content of the drafts of sections of my contribution to the report.
25.                My practice during the review was to forward the first drafts of sections of my report to the Acting Chief Officer, to Mr Gradwell, to the Wiltshire team and to BDO Alto. Only BDO Alto were sent updated drafts, as and when amendments were subsequently made to the originals.
26.                Some days after the article had appeared, I received a telephone call from Mr Gradwell in which he admitted that he had been responsible for the leak.
27.                I received two further telephone calls from Mr Gradwell on 26th June 2011 and 1st July 2011, concerning the establishment of this Sub Panel and he again acknowledged that he had been responsible.
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Here are the Sub Panels Findings on this issue


 5. To investigate how details of the review into the financial management of Operation Rectangle came to be published in a national newspaper in October 2009

Background
  • On Sunday 4th October 2009 the Mail on Sunday published an article by their reporter David Rose referring to ‘a leaked report by financial auditors’ which had been seen by the newspaper. The article then appears to quote the then Acting Chief of Police: ‘Dave Warcup told the Mail on Sunday that he had appointed an independent team of auditors to examine Harper’s spending - it includes two forensic accountants and a police expert in seizing criminals’ assets’. This statement was factually inaccurate. Later in the article the leaked material is identified as an ‘interim report’. No mention was made in the article of BDO Alto; however, it appears clear that the article is referring to their review.
  • In their submission BDO Alto give a full and contemporaneous record of discussions and correspondence between BDO Alto and Home Affairs following the publication of this article. Mr. Kellett stated in his submission:
It is clear that it was not an ‘interim report’ or the consolidated report that was leaked to the newspaper but rather content of the drafts of sections of my contribution to the report. 
  • Mr. Kellett explained that he had circulated copies of his work on a confidential basis to the Acting Chief Officer, to Mr. Gradwell, to the Wiltshire team and to BDO Alto for feedback and comments. In a telephone conversation after the article had appeared Mr. Gradwell admitted to Mr. Kellett that he had been responsible for the leak. Mr. Kellett said that he deplored this action.
  • The States of Jersey Police submission confirmed this and described the circumstances as follows:
D/Supt M Gradwell left Jersey in August 2009 and retired from the police service on 2 September 2009. Prior to leaving and unbeknown to the States of Jersey authorities, Mr. Gradwell gave a number of press briefings which were critical of the investigation led by Mr. Harper. During the course of these briefings, it is evident that Mr. Gradwell made verbal references to extracts from the BDO Alto report on financial matters. This was wholly improper and less than helpful to the ongoing enquiry. [ ] Mr. Gradwell is on public record as accepting that he quoted information from notes later incorporated in the report, but he vehemently denies ‘leaking’ a copy of the report to the media.
Details of the article
  • Some of the wording quoted in the Mail on Sunday article is very close to the phrases in the final report; in addition specific details of financial costs are disclosed. There seems to be little doubt from the number of specific details and phrases used by the newspaper that the reporter had extensive access to Mr. Kellett’s material whether or not the reporter was actually given a copy of the work.
  • The article refers three times to comments by Mr Gradwell, the retiring Senior Investigating Officer, who had described the handling of the HDLG investigation as a ‘shambles’.
  • The article refers to specific details of financial costs contained in the ‘leaked report’ including £750 per day for the first seven days’ work for the forensic dog and £650 per day for 136 days after and 49 claims on force credit cards for meals costing more than £50; more than £5,700 on Mr. Harper’s card alone.
  • The article states that, in a three month investigation the reporter had spoken to a number of individuals connected with the Operation Rectangle: including the Dog Handler, the Chief Executive and the Head of Operational support of NPIA and a former Metropolitan Police Commander.
  • The article also claims to make a number of direct quotes from the ‘leaked report’. These later appeared in the published BDO Alto report, albeit the wording in the published report had been somewhat amended in most cases, for example: 
(a)  a comment by an employee of LGC Forensics: We followed the dog. Where the dog barked was dug up.’ This says the interim report was a fundamental error’..
(b)  a comment that Mr. Harper had ‘little idea’ of how to use the HOLMES computer system. The article refers to an email where Mr. Harper asks a question about the role of an analyst.  This was not found in the published report which actually says: SOJP personnel lack depth of experience in using HOLMES - including senior personnel fulfilling key roles. 
(c) the conclusion to the auditors’ interim report regarding use of the dog: ‘It was an expensive mistake to bring in Mr. Grime. It would have been far preferable and much cheaper to have tried to obtain appropriately trained dogs and handlers from UK police forces.’ The underlined words have been amended in the published report which reads: It was an expensive decision to employ Mr. Grime and to deploy him in the ways described in this Report. It may have been wiser and cheaper to have sought to obtain appropriately trained dogs and handlers from UK police forces
(d) a comment on meal with a News of The World journalist: ‘We do not see how this occasion can possibly be regarded as a business dinner within the terms of the policy’. This sentence appears unamended in the BDO Alto report.
  • The article makes 10 further references to specific details contained in the ‘leaked report’. The article also refers to emails from Mr. Harper to his staff (Forensics Manager) obtained by the Mail on Sunday. 
  • Mr. Rose had previously written a number of other articles critical of Mr. Harper’s conduct of the investigation going back to May 2008 (18.05.08; 24.05.08, 15.11.08). In May 2008 he made a reference to the ‘leaked’ cost of the investigation (£6.5milion) but did not develop any criticism. In his article in November 2008 in which he interviewed Mr. Gradwell he stated that the police were said to be concerned at the enquiry’s profligate spending (eg decision to send two officers first class to Australia and a £100,000 bill for the use of Eddie the sniffer dog). In the course of the article he stated that he had obtained confidential documents including an email from Mr. Harper and the official log book kept by the forensic science team. 
  • Channel Television also appeared to have access to information from the review into the financial management of the HDLG enquiry.  In their two programmes in September 2009 they interviewed Mr. Gradwell on his retirement and referred to a number of specific details from the BDO Alto report such as dinners in specific London restaurants, overnight stays for one hour meetings and the failure to appoint a finance manager.

Police response to Mr. Gradwell’s action
  • Mr. Warcup stated in his submission that the disclosures made by Mr. Gradwell to the media on his departure from Jersey had not been authorised or approved by himself or any other person in the SOJ Police.
They were made without my knowledge, were inappropriate and could have jeopardised the objectivity and fairness of the Wiltshire enquiry.
  • He said that he had been concerned that a considerable amount of information and documents had been leaked to the media from an early stage in the HCAE investigation: 
Unfortunately there were many issues right through from 2008 until 2010 where we did look to try and establish how information had been released to the media.  It is a matter of some regret in many respects that it happened and I do not condone it at all….. I have to say that I think that the release of information in such circumstances is detrimental to the good conduct of the inquiry…. I think that that matter needs to be seriously considered for the future and the release of information, however well intentioned, has to be carried out under proper regulated and approved systems and not to fulfil whatever agendas people are trying to pull through.
  • The Minister told the Sub-Panel that he had discussed the matter with Mr. Warcup who had revealed to him that he (Mr. Warcup) had become aware that Mr. Gradwell intended to speak to the press on his retirement from the Police force about his views on the HCAE investigation. Mr. Warcup had sought assurances from Mr. Gradwell that he would not do anything of that nature, only to discover subsequently that Mr. Gradwell had already given his press interviews.
  • The Minister told the Sub-Panel that it was not possible to discipline Mr. Gradwell for the disclosures he had made because of the fact that he had been seconded from another Police force and had already left Jersey. This point is confirmed in the SOJ Police submission:
Having left Jersey and retired from the police service in England, it is not possible to take matters further outside of Jersey’s jurisdiction.

Sub-Panel comments
  • It is accepted that the subject of the leak to the Mail on Sunday was not an interim report prepared by BDO Alto but initial drafts which Mr. Kellett had prepared and circulated to a limited group of people within the SOJ Police (Mr. Warcup and D/Superintendent Gradwell) and to BDO Alto for information and feedback on accuracy of content and style. We also fully accept that neither BDO Alto nor Mr. Kellett were in any way responsible for this leak.
  • It is clear from the evidence we have received that Mr. Gradwell was responsible for leaking information from draft sections of the work which Mr. Kellett had prepared for the BDO Alto review. The information was published in an article in the Mail on Sunday in October 2009 but it also appears to have been made available to Channel Television for a programme in September 2009. Mr. Gradwell also gave an interview to the Jersey Evening Post in which he voiced extensive negative comments on the investigation carried out by his predecessor which he labelled ‘a poorly managed mess’.  The disclosure of information from the review of financial management was then part of a broader criticism of the investigation by Mr. Gradwell.
  • Mr. Gradwell’s views on the investigation were already well known. As Senior Investigating Officer he had been a key figure in the press conference on 12th November 2008 which had called into question the previous direction of the investigation. 
  • Our primary concern about the premature leaking of details of the review of financial management relates to issues of fairness in the way these leaks are reported in the media without an adequate opportunity for an alternative perspective to be considered. We give further consideration to this matter in the final section of our report.

Key Findings
  • The evidence we have received points to Mr. Gradwell as the person responsible for leaking information from draft sections of the work which Mr. Kellett had prepared for the BDO Alto review. 
  • Neither BDO Alto nor Mr. Kellett were responsible for the leak of information to the Mail on Sunday.
  • Mr. Gradwell’s action in releasing prematurely to the media draft sections of an uncompleted report would have been a serious disciplinary matter for the Police. However, no action could be taken against him by the SOJ Police as Mr. Gradwell had completed his secondment and left the Island. 
  • Mr. Gradwell’s reasons for taking such an unprofessional step are not clear to us as he refused to participate in the Scrutiny review. 

This is an Interview I have given VFC about my ongoing concerns regarding the "HCAE"

Show No Fear, Do not be intimidated,

Truth, Honesty & Integrity 

Rico Sorda

Team Voice





127 comments:

Anonymous said...

Gradwell was leaking stuff back in 2009 and Le Marquand kept it quiet? Too busy trying to trash Harper and Power himself.

Anonymous said...

Rico What a heartfelt interview you're best yet.

I am truly in awe of your determination to see this through.

Like you say, evidence is there for all to see. A point I would like to make is the media have been informed re various outles and still to choose to ignore it.

It sickens me.

Anonymous said...

Who was the editor in charge of the mail on sunday when 'special agent' david rose got the go-ahead to publish so called confidential information that was designed to undermine and trash a live police investigation?

Why not send in evidence to the HOC's Culture, Media and Sport Committee who are gathering evidence into phone hacking and general mis-behaviour by the press?

rico sorda said...

"Gradwell was leaking stuff back in 2009 and Le Marquand kept it quiet? Too busy trying to trash Harper and Power himself."

Again we come back to the excellent review conducted by the Home Scrutiny Sub Panel. This was all done in an open and transparent way. I find it amazing that ILM new of the actions of Mick Gradwell back in 2009. Remember in 2009 he was heavily involved in dealing with the suspension of Graham Power. He was even calling Lenny Harper a Maverick and someone not to be trusted. Why were the actions of Gradwell kept quiet? The Abuse Investigation was still live. In June 2009 the then AG William Bailhache dropped 11 cases. I will be looking into this very closely over the coming weeks.

"Rico What a heartfelt interview you're best yet.

I am truly in awe of your determination to see this through.

Like you say, evidence is there for all to see. A point I would like to make is the media have been informed re various outles and still to choose to ignore it."

Thank you for your kind words.

I know that I expose myself even more when I do these Interviews but sometimes I just believe it is better to talk on camera. It also show that not all bloggers should be tard with the toxic brush that some of our Media and States Members like doing.

This has been a long road and we will not stop untill a proper closure can be called on this.

Thank you for taking the time to read the blog

Rs

Zoompad said...

Don't forget David Rose was working with Richard Webster (BFMS, founder Ralph Underwager paedo) and Bob Woffingden long before the HDLG scandal came to light.

Select Committee Minutes of Evidence which were ordered by the House of Commons to be printed 22 October 2002. The objective was about setting limits on the use of police resources and time limits for people claiming to have been abused to come forward when investigating historic child abuse cases.

TUESDAY 14 MAY 2002
Members present:

Mr Chris Mullin, in the Chair
Mr David Cameron Bob Russell
Mrs Janet Dean Mr Marsha Singh
Bridget Prentice Angela Watkinson
Mr Gwyn Prosser David Winnick

CONTENTS
Examination of Witnesses
MR DAVID ROSE, Special Investigations Reporter, The Observer, MR RICHARD WEBSTER, Author of "The Great Children's Home Panic", and MR BOB WOFFINDEN, Freelance Investigative Journalist, examined.
Question Number
38-59
60-79
80-99
100-120

Select Committee on Home Affairs Minutes of Evidence

Anonymous said...

Rico, It's a long read and a little confusing in parts so if you get a little time (for a thicko like me) would you publish some of the more significant pieces in this comments bit?

Anonymous said...

David Rose set out his agenda May 2008. Just day after this States sitting from the official report 29th April 2008

Following the announcement by the States of Jersey Police on Saturday, 23rd February 2008 of physical findings at Haut de la Garenne, an Emergency Co-ordination Centre (ECC) was established in the Chief Minister’s Department. The ECC had the following aim:

“to ensure States of Jersey manages the issues around the Haut de la Garenne Police investigation, and any subsequent historical child abuse inquiries, in an efficient and effective manner, maintaining public reassurance, as well as the professional reputation, and economic wellbeing, of the Island.”

Two distinct groups were formed with the following purposes:

1. The Chief Minister’s Advisory Group - to support the Chief Minister in issues of assessment and decision-making;

2. Officer Group - to support the Chief Executive in issue assessment, management strategy development and implementation, to include overall strategy management and review, risk strategy - assessment and contingency, recording and logging.

Meeting dates – The Officer group met 11 times, from 27th February 2008 to 14th March. The Chief Minister’s Advisory Group met 10 times from 28th February to 12th March. No such meetings are currently taking place but future meetings may be called should circumstances change.

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/documents/hansard/38814-24657-1652008.htm#_Toc198702400

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Once more an informative Blog of documented evidence. The State Media, as well as Gradwell and others, have a lot to ANSWER

Anonymous said...

Publicly the message given was no expense will be spared in establishing the truth.

In reality rather than supporting the police emails were sent from a States member ridiculing Mr. Harper with the Lenny Henry joke, Coconut lampshade drawings (by a Minister heavily involved in decision making)being place in the States chamber on all members chairs?

All very dignified, gentlemanly or respectful to any alleged victims.(NOT)

rico sorda said...

Senator Ian Le Marquand

"I was aware of an issue, and then of course my staff picked up the Mail article and they did some excellent detective work, emailing, and then sent to me the consequences of that, which clearly pointed to Mick Gradwell. I have to say, when the issue came up again, I had completely forgotten about this, I had just totally forgotten about it. I had to look back and find the emails and then say: “Oh yes, now I do recall it”, because it was not that significant to me once I knew it was Mick Gradwell."

But Senator it might be significant to the people who suffered decades of Abuse in the care of the States Of Jersey. I find this attitude really amazing. This is the man who conducted a Kangaroo Court on Graham Power. Oh how he forgets. Graham Power & Lenny Harper were out of control remember.

Again, zero feelings towards the people who suffered the Abuse. Surely a man in his position must of known the seriousness of what was happening. Was he just the puppet having his strings pulled?

rs

Anonymous said...

Or, was it not significant to Mr. Le Marquand once he refreshed his memory as he was aware all along of leaks to Mr, Rose at the time they initially happened?

No shock even on discovering at that time, who was leaking, now why does that not surprise me considering leaks were trashing the investigation. No shock from Mr. Le Marquand, no surprise, no disgust no fear no anger towards the jeopardising of an on ongoing investigation.

That confidence does not come from knowing nothing.

Anonymous said...

Daily Mail 2 March 2008:
'I have known about Jersey paedophiles for 15 years,' says award-winning journalist
By EILEEN FAIRWEATHER

Anon at 7:30 PM povides us with the following:

Following the announcement by the States of Jersey Police on Saturday, 23rd February 2008 of physical findings at Haut de la Garenne, an Emergency Co-ordination Centre (ECC) was established in the Chief Minister’s Department. The ECC had the following aim:

“to ensure States of Jersey manages the issues around the Haut de la Garenne Police investigation, and any subsequent historical child abuse inquiries, in an efficient and effective manner, maintaining public reassurance, as well as the professional reputation, and economic wellbeing, of the Island.”

Daily Mail David Rose 18 May 2008

Human bone centre Jersey childrens home inquiry actually piece wood coconut shell

David Rose again 5th November 2008
article about Lenny Harper.

David Rose again nearly a year later 4th October 2009 again about Harpers investigation.

Paul Dacre became DM editor in 1992.

Anonymous said...

The question is, was gradwell paid for this information and if so how much??

Anonymous said...

It stands to reason that ILM, saying that he had done enough to get Home Affairs in order, in his time as Home Affairs Minister. Was just an excuse to get away from Home Affairs.

Though, his failed attempt to oust Ozouf from The Treasury, and his pathetic attempt to hold on to Home Affairs....

Just goes to show how desparate these failed Ministers are to hang on to their power as failed Ministers?!

Ian Evans said...

PARKING TICKETS & A LAW CHANGE :)

Anonymous said...

NotW Lucy Panton July 2008

"A source close to the four-month investigation told us: "There's NO doubt in the minds of the detectives on this case that children WERE murdered in the home."

I find the above piece by Lucy Panton puzzling as it came a few months after David Roses piece in the DM. Can anyone shed any light on it?

Anonymous said...

Anyone from States member to Jersey pr wanting to discredit the investigation, could of quoted the following to Lucy Pinton by claiming "There's NO doubt in the minds of the detectives on this case that children WERE murdered in the home."? It would be a headline that sells papers.

Anonymous said...

To help keep the cost down. Would image Bob Hill would have no trouble in saying yes to heading a COI into historic child abuse.

Whether he would be approved by the powers that be would be another thing.

Its just that P Bailhache and I Le Marquand have both used the excuse recently that a COI would cost at least 20 million pounds.

Its also got to be remembered that at least ten alledged abuses are sueing Stuart Syvret.

This money could also come in handy if those alledged abuses are found guilty.

rico sorda said...

44. An earlier article dated 15 November 2008 was titled “How police chief Lenny Harper lost the plot over the Jersey children’s home ‘murders’”21. In that article, Mr Rose notes “… The Mail on Sunday has obtained confidential documents, including a crucial email written by Mr Harper and the official log book kept by his own forensic science team. They show he repeatedly misled both the media and the island’s government, and made a series of statements that proved to be

Are we saying that David Warcup had no control over Mick Gradwell? Was it really that bad. The role of the local media will be seriously looked at over the coming posts as they are a danger to children on this beautiful Island of Jersey.

rs

rico sorda said...

Anon

They wouldn't let Bob Hill anywhere near it. The COI is so important. The stakes are high. Why do you think Terry Le Suer got Stuart Syvret's court action struck out instead of challening the evidence and giving the people accused a chance to clear their name. Remember what the Chapman Report told Terry le Suer to do. Some people can bury there head in the sand and ignore the evidence our ruling elite know that a COI will do no such thing. We are coming to a tipping edge make no mistake.

rs

Anonymous said...

Stuart Syvret will be in the Royal court tomorrow Tuesday the 22nd November @2pm after originally being told he was required to attend on the 25th of November. He's had little more than 24 hours notice so insufficient time to prepare his papers. The court case is to revisit Mr Syvret's previous appeal against conviction on the grounds evidence and a witness was withheld from him during his prosecution.

Anonymous said...

It is not up 'to people to clear their name'.

It is up to Syvret to prove to the police that he has enough evidence to arrrest and charge people, he has been asked to do this. If he cannot do this then he will have his butt kicked.

Don't you undertand that? Look why don't you speak to Geoff Southern about the claims against him by Syvret?

You may get your head around what I am trying to explain to you.

rico sorda said...

Concerning the 'NOTW' this is what LH said.. He is referring to Shenton, Perchard & Deputy Power at the beginning.

"These three corkscrew shaped morons are laughable. Let me make it perfectly clear for them. I used my legitimate hospitality budget to purchase a meal and drinks for a number of UK officers and the Chief Crime Reporter for the News of the World. At no time did I receive any cash or any other favours from the NOTW or anyone else at all for information. In case they have failed to grasp the rather complicated scandal unfolding in the UK, police officers are accused of receiving large favours for taking decisions about prosecutions and selling information. To the best of my knowledge there is no officer being criticised for not taking favours from the media. It might be a bit complicated for them I know. Or then again, perhaps they are being deliberately misleading. Perish the thought!! However, for their benefit, at no time, unlike Perchard and Gradwell, did I unlawfully leak confidential information to any journalist. Let me repeat again - David Rose in a recorded conversation admitted that Perchard leaked him a confidential police e mail. Perchard was the recipient of that e mail. If these goons have any evidence they should come out with it. If they want to accuse me they should say so, but we know they won't because this is yet another sad, dishonest, pathetic, and desperate attempt to discredit the Abuse investigation and to prevent paedophiles from being brought to justice. Now, why would they want to do that? Why are they spending so much time and effort in an attempt to stop an investigation into horrific abuse which had as its suspects some of Jerseys most prominent officials? Perhaps they could answer that. The man who now calls himself Sean Power might be better reflecting on the reasons he lost his post recently and his attempted links with a Northern Ireland company involved in the Waterfront whom he offered his services to in strange circumstances. Perchard might well reflect on his links with the self confessed journalistic stooge and convicted paedophile supporter David Rose who named Perchard as leaking a confidential police e mail to him. As for Shenton, he is just too rediculous to even discuss. Lenny Henry seems to be the limit of his research. These three clowns give a circus a bad name. They really are desperate to draw attention away from the evidence unfolding in the Scrutiny Panel into the BDO farce. Again, I wonder why?

Lenny Harper

Anonymous said...

Shenton, Perchard and Power's names have a habit of popping up when it comes to discrediting the child abuse investigation what are they hiding or who are they protecting if not themselves.?

Anonymous said...

According to you on your recent video you are being threatened. How and by who do you think because I cannot see any reason why anybody can be bothered to threaten you unless you have threatened or been a nuisance to them? Can you enlighten us on this?

rico sorda said...

Zoomy

You are a star. I have already looked into it. Good stuff though always feel free to check with me

xrs

rico sorda said...

"It is up to Syvret to prove to the police that he has enough evidence to arrrest and charge people, he has been asked to do this. If he cannot do this then he will have his butt kicked."

What are you on

All I will Say is this. I don't have a clue who is taking Stuart to court. I don't have a clue what they are taking him to court for and by that what charges he is facing.

Now if you can answer the above quite clearly I will publish the comment

rs

rico sorda said...

"According to you on your recent video you are being threatened. How and by who do you think because I cannot see any reason why anybody can be bothered to threaten you unless you have threatened or been a nuisance to them? Can you enlighten us on this?"

This is a mystery to me. The only ones I challenge on my blog are the ones in a position to be challenged like ex politicians, current politicians and the Jersey Media. As I have pointed out Ii blog under my own name and I;m prepared to appear on video. The people who threaten me seem to come from a certain blog site that Is 100% Anonymous.

Any body who is familiar with my Blog will know exactly what I do. Now, if somebody feels threatened by what I do then it is up to other people to form an opinion as to why they do it. The best one so far is somebody actually printed of a 3 page leaflet saying how im a danger to women and then actually walked round town leaving them at offices.

You see the work I do - You see the they do

They are paedos or paedo protectors

And like I say in the interview if someone else has another very good explanation then fire away.

I started my Blog in April 2010

So far not one single person has contacted me to complain about it's contents.

NOT ONE

rs

rico sorda said...

Why people do what they do is up to them. The message Im giving out is that it wont stop me from what im doing.

Simple as that

I cant get diverted from what is a very serious issue

D/Supt Mick Gradwell

rs

Anonymous said...

anon November 21, 2011 6:02 PM says
"According to you on your recent video you are being threatened. How and by who do you think because I cannot see any reason why anybody can be bothered to threaten you unless you have threatened or been a nuisance to them? Can you enlighten us on this?"

Of course Rico, VFC, Staurt and anyone else who challenges these crooks and vile child abusers is a 'threat' and a 'nuisance'.

The police investigation was a threat and a nuisance to their way of live and 'had to' be dealt with by involving like minded bent coppers and others from the mainland to discredit decent coppers and others who rightly so sought to bring to justice those responsible for henious crimes against innocent children.

Anonymous said...

No one is above the law.

And that includes Mick Gradwell!

rico sorda said...

Im just looking back at Senator Le Marquand. Im intrigued as to why the serious actions of MG back in 2008/9 don't seem to trouble him that much

From: Andy Sibcy
To: L Harper
Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2011, 10:02
Subject: News of the World

Mr Harper,

Senator Le Marquand has now published his answer to a States question asked by Senator Ben Shenton. Please find both below.

Would you like to respond?

Andy.

1240/5(6481)
WRITTEN QUESTION TO THE MINISTER FOR HOME AFFAIRS
BY SENATOR B.E. SHENTON
ANSWER TO BE TABLED ON MONDAY 18th JULY 2011

Question

Given the revelations in respect of journalistic practises of the News of the World, coupled with the disclosure that a journalist from the newspaper was entertained at a top London restaurant at the height of the Haut de la Garenne investigation by the then Deputy Chief Officer, is the Minister satisfied that all future dealings with the media will be handled in a professional manner.Does he have any evidence to show whether any underhand practices were undertaken by the News of the World when investigating the Haut de la Garenne allegations?

Answer; Senator Le Marquand

I am very concerned that the News of the World is referred to twice in the independent reports which I have received in relation to the Haut de la Garenne investigation.The first occasion was on the morning of the day on which the first press conference was held by the then Deputy Chief Officer and Senior Investigating Officer. On that morning, 23 February 2008, a News of the World photographer was found in the bushes at Haut de la Garenne. In my view, there must have been some leak of information to that newspaper prior to that date.

However, much more concerning is the incident referred to which took place on 1 May 2008 when a female News of the World reporter, together with a number of police officers who were involved with the case were entertained by the then Deputy Chief Officer and Senior Investigating Officer at an expensive London restaurant at a cost of 699.00. It is very concerning that subsequently a female reporter from the News of the World produced an article which made references

a) to HELLFIRE Jersey Homes dossier to reveal children were murdered then burnt and b) to a SHOCK secret police report into the Jersey House of Hell Childrens Home reveals youngsters there WERE murdered then BURNED in a furnace to COVER UP the atrocities. The report then goes on to reveal various details which are very likely to have been provided by a Police Officer or Officers. The full text of the Article is duplicated on a number of websites.

I am satisfied that the current leadership of the States of Jersey Police acts and will act in a proper and professional manner in relation to its dealings with the press.However, I can never exclude the possibility of individual Police Officers improperly leaking information to the press.

I do not have any evidence of underhand practices being undertaken by the News of the World in relation to the Haut de la Garenne investigation but doubt as to whether this would have been
necessary in the light both of the nature of police press conferences and other provision of confidential information which characterised the early stages of this investigation.

Andy Sibcy
Journalist

rico sorda said...

NEWS OF THE WORLD

RS

Anonymous said...

Sorry I must be missing something from all of this and maybe you can explain. How can the reporting by a Newspaper trash a child abuse investigation when its the police who ultimately decide, like they did, in late 2009 to close the investigation down? What is the connection because as far as I am concerned the media is just the media and that's that. It is the Police who decide on these things.

rico sorda said...

Now you can read the evidence on this posting of exactly what D/Supt Mick Gradwell did

Lets just look at this question that Deputy Pitman asked Senator Le Marquand in the states in July 2011

3.8 Deputy T.M. Pitman of the Minister for Home Affairs regarding allegations surrounding the leak of confidential information relating to the historic abuse inquiry.

Following recent comments made in evidence to Scrutiny Sub-Panel and in the Assembly alleging that confidential information relating to the historic abuse inquiry have twice been leaked to a Daily Mail journalist, what measures, if any, will the Minister be discussing with the new Chief Officer of the States of Jersey Police to ensure that police inquiries cannot be undermined in this way in the future?

Senator B.I. Le Marquand (The Minister for Home Affairs):

It has been known for some time that the former Superintendent (mick gradwell), who was the Senior Investigating Officer in the Haut de la Garenne investigation, provided confidential information not only to the local press but also to a Daily Mail reporter in connection with that officer’s criticism of the way in which the investigation at Haut de la Garenne had been handled by the former Deputy Chief Officer and Senior Investigating Officer. I have previously publicly criticised the actions of the former Superintendent in so doing (but he never mentioned the fact that gradwell was leaking). However, even more concerning in my view is the link between the former Deputy Chief Officer (Lenny Harper) and a reporter from the News of the World, some details of which are revealed today in my answer to written question 5. It is in my view totally unacceptable that a News of the World reporter, who subsequently wrote an utterly scurrilous and destructive article [Approbation] based apparently upon information provided by States of Jersey Police Officers, should have been entertained in London together with other officers involved in the criminal investigation at public expense by the then Deputy Chief Officer. There will always be a risk of criminal investigations being prejudiced if police officers behave improperly. [Approbation]

Do you see how quickly he turns it around to Lenny Harper.

In 2009 he knows what Gradwell did

Senator Le Marquand should be pulled in and asked to explain his actions from Jan 2009 to the present day because they stink

rs

rico sorda said...

You asked a question and then answered it.

"Sorry I must be missing something from all of this and maybe you can explain. How can the reporting by a Newspaper trash a child abuse investigation when its the police who ultimately decide, like they did, in late 2009 to close the investigation down? What is the connection because as far as I am concerned the media is just the media and that's that. It is the Police who decide on these things."

I thought the "HCAE" was closed at the end of 2010

You asked a question and then answered it.

"Sorry I must be missing something from all of this and maybe you can explain. How can the reporting by a Newspaper trash a child abuse investigation"

You need to read some general knowledge history books. Read about the use of 'propaganda' in days past & present. Read about dictatorships and communist countries with no free press. Step from your door and gain knowledge.

Did you really think about what you were saing in that comment? Even the cat lying next to me put his paw over his eyes and shook his head.

rs

Anonymous said...

No listen.

Did the Police say, 'oh we will close the books because the media has trashed the investigation'.

Propoganda? Whose to say what you write isn't just that?

The Media and Police decisions is not related and you say they are and that sounds like the Media run the Police. Is that what you are saying?

rico sorda said...

Read my blog posting & watch the interview.

rs

Anonymous said...

I have and you are blaming the Media for everything yet it is the Police that decide on these things. Do you understand what I am getting at? You are giving the Media far too much credit. So an article was written that you obviously did not like, but the Police are running the show. Not David Rose, the NOTW or even the JEP, it is the Police. Any journalist can write a story on a current investigation with an opinion. It's freedom of the press.

Anonymous said...

Did the Police say, 'oh we will close the books because the media has trashed the investigation'.

I believe a decision was made to close the investigation from an early stage. A plan had to be put in place with the aid of the media and leaks to the media the decison made early on gave of the message to achieve the goal intended. Save Jerseys reputation

rico sorda said...

This could go on for ever in the comment section.

Have you been following any of this? Have you read the Scrutiny Review?

I will leave you with this

The Jersey MSM have been busted

Mick Gradwell has been busted

David Rose is a 20 million pound shambles

And there is so much more coming.

Keep reading

rs

Anonymous said...

I dont think the police decide anything power comes from the Law officers.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
No one is above the law.

And that includes Mick Gradwell!

November 21, 2011 9:04 PM

And it also includes Syvret.

rico sorda said...

My next posting is on the JEP

"AT THE HEART OF ISLAND STRIFE"

Covering up the "HCAE'

EDITORIAL DECISION?

Zoompad said...

"The Media and Police decisions is not related"

Y&eah, like they weren't related in Stafford either.

One of the local newspapers in my area did a headline describing Pindown in Staffordshire

THEY WERE NO ANGELS

I was one of those jailed kids. They put me in that hellish place fopr being a victim of crime. I kepty trying to run away from being abused - that was my crime, that's what got me jailed.

I'm still furious about that newspaper headline.

Zoompad said...

I am so sorry about the typos, I have double vision since the eye operation

Anonymous said...

Google "David Rose" and it should bring you to the Jack of Kent blog
http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-is-david-rose.html (can't do links)

Keep up the good work and take care.

Anonymous said...

Rico

Someone is trying to create the argument that if the media and police and government are unethical in word and deed, that not all of them are to blame. Wrong. Anyone who chooses dishonesty and cover up is at fault.

There is no way to equate decades of systematic abuse cover up, blatant media lies, and judicial human rights violations on the scale of Jersey's with Stuart's refusal to perform community service - which was ordered as part of a primary denial of his evidence and his human rights in the first place.

Let's see after all this is exposed to international opinion, if Jersey desperately backtracks.

rico sorda said...

Mr. Gradwell’s action in releasing prematurely to the media draft sections of an uncompleted report would have been a serious disciplinary matter for the Police. However, no action could be taken against him by the SOJ Police as Mr. Gradwell had completed his secondment and left the Island.

Has the law been changed regarding secondment?Who is in charge of a policeman if he comes over for a year or whatever? Are we saying that a policeman who was seconded had a free range to do as he pleased because nothing could be done anyway?

This must be asked of the Home Affairs Minister as I believe it's a very important issue

rs

rico sorda said...

"Someone is trying to create the argument that if the media and police and government are unethical in word and deed, that not all of them are to blame. Wrong. Anyone who chooses dishonesty and cover up is at fault."

yup bang on

More on this later

rs

Anonymous said...

Re: Gradwell. You are right to question the laws covering legal accountability. What laws governed Gradwell's actions at the time, and who was ultimately responsible for holding him to any normal legal standards? Nobody gets a free pass, whether seconded or not, when it comes down to basic criminal law. It is impossible to believe there was a credible legal loophole to shield him.

Anonymous said...

Your pet troll hopes to keep going on about how the media were not responsible for Gradwell's re-cover-up and Gradwell's discrediting of the previous abuse investigation. Is he trying to minimize the roll of the media, on behalf of the cover-up? I remember a few years ago, the cover-up merchants were outraged by the role of the media in exposing abuse, ranting that outside media stories were a greater crime than the abuse. The troll can't have it both ways.

If I'm not mistaken, the ONLY thing Graham Power was alleged to have done wrong was to allow Lenny Harper to have a lot of leeway in his power as lead investigator. Now you can't get anybody in the chain of command to admit responsibility for Gradwell being wholly "independent" in his illegal leaks to Rose. These double standards are piling up faster than they can be documented.

rico sorda said...

Hi Anons

I will be trying to find out who was in charge of Gradwell on a legal side. How can you have someone running a high profile case with no accountability. Was the uk force in charge of Gradwell? They must have been if not JERSEY.

Do the Uk force have legal status over the actions of their officer working in a different jurisdiction?


You can see the double standards at work. Where are the JEP editorials slatting Warcup & Gradwell? We will be taking a very close look at what is a very toxic cess pit "Jersey state media"

rs

Anonymous said...

would gradwell have signed the official secrets act? if so has he not broken its code of conduct by revieling internal information to an out side source?? and therefore liable to prosecution???

Ian Evans said...

Rico

Grabwell can be charged for any crime at any time, and he must be charged in the jurisdiction that he was in when the crime was committed.

As he was in Jersey, he will NEVER be charged as Jersey LAW does not recognise LAW & ORDER in the form that normal human beings do!!!

Zoompad said...

Wednesday 23 November 2011
Mick Gradwell - Is it time to pay for your private policemen?
Mick Gradwell

Published on Tuesday 20 September 2011 14:49

With only 150 members of the public visiting Broughton police station in a year, the decision to close it, from a purely business point of view, seems to be a complete no brainer.


Also, Broughton has low levels of crime and the main Preston police station (sorry, operating centre!) is conveniently located only four miles down the road. Convenient, that is, except during rush hour...

Similar arguments are being made about the 44 other Lancashire Police premises marked for closure because of swingeing financial cuts to the police budget.

During the 12-week consultation process, which will end shortly, there has been a passionate plea from the public against the closures but there have been few alternative suggestions as to how else the police could make the required savings.

On that basis it seems inevitable that Lancashire police will go ahead with most, if not all, of the proposed closures and you can say goodbye to police stations in Fulwood, Penwortham, Broughton, Wheelton and so on.

These buildings will be a great loss to their communities,.

Even if they were underused by the public, they were a visible policing presence, providing reassurance and playing a part in maintaining low crime levels.

Their closure will make the surrounding areas more vulnerable to the attention of travelling criminals and local troublemakers will have greater scope to misbehave.

The huge budget cuts are causing the police to retreat from rural areas and the Home Secretary’s single priority to reduce crime will ensure police concentrate any available resources in high crime areas.

It is clear that people who live or work in more rural low crime areas will be less of a policing priority than ever before.

Although not a perfect solution to filling this gap in policing, I do think the time is approaching where some communities may have to think about employing private security patrols. This is something that gated communities in America have been doing for some years, with great success.

With the private security sector being so competitive, there would be a great incentive for patrols to prevent crimes or they would face the risk of losing the contract.

It would be an interesting experiment to see what would happen to crime levels in an area like Broughton if routine and irregular police patrols were replaced by much cheaper dedicated private security teams.

This is not something I suggest with any great enthusiasm but unfortunately, it may be the only way of plugging ever-widening gaps in the thin blue line.

If you would like Mick to give a talk to your society, a presentation or an educational lecture, contact 01253 600800 for further information.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=mick%20gradwell%20preston&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CC4QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lep.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fopinion_2_1845%2Fmick_gradwell_is_it_time_to_pay_for_your_private_policemen_1_3791426&ei=4hjNTvX3FsvQ8QPIyZ3CDw&usg=AFQjCNGWW1EgKlolRy5w0Rp6bxcDiZVS_w&sig2=8bZaDwrbmDRbWnz3vN7O8Q

Zoompad said...

"With only 150 members of the public visiting Broughton police station in a year, the decision to close it, from a purely business point of view, seems to be a complete no brainer."

But I might be able to shed some light on this, I hope so. I remember a personal testimony of someone who was taken to this very same police station and dealt with in a highly irregular way - most people would call it illegal. I'm waiting for that person to get back to me about this.

Zoompad said...

http://zoompad.blogspot.com/2011/11/bollywood-gradwell.html

More light being shed

Zoompad said...

"As he was in Jersey, he will NEVER be charged "

Oh yes he will!

rico sorda said...

I think anyone with half a brain can work out that there was some serious problems between;

Warcup - Gradwell - Police Consultant Mike Kellett


There is another combination that I have only tickled with in the past. It's one that also concerns me. The combination is this;

Warcup-Gradwell-Matt Tapp

This combination will be getting a serious looking at. Now that I know what was going on with Gradwell Mr Tapp comes right back into the picture

rs

rico sorda said...

Hang on a minute here. Didn't Gradwell return to Jersey after he left in September 2009 to finish up some work? Am I correct here?

I remember something about this.

rs

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

You can try asking Ian Le Marquand the real reason why Mr. Gradwell had to return but, as you know, the chances of getting a truthful answer are pretty slim.

Anonymous said...

Hows Stuarts appeal going, anyone know?
Just read the propaganda report in the rag, but was hopping for some reall news.

rico sorda said...

Mate am sure you are no doubt aware of what them **** on the **** blog say but just incase I had a nose on down there today and read this

Ricos dark schooldays secret about to be revealed. Watch this space. Waiting for confirmation from what you may call third party evidence.

No doubt a load of ********* is about to appear by a **** or *****.

Obvously you cant post this due to the swear words but i just wanted you to be aware they are going lower their tactics even further. As far as I am concerned anyone who new you from the old days would still know you are a great bloke then and know, so **** em.

Oh ****, I hope you didnt get a detention or something, that could be really bad for your reputation lol.

Thank you for the message.

I will let Sir Winston Churchill have the last word

"You Have enemies?

Good. That means you've stood up for something in your life."

rs

GeeGee said...

Yes Rico - he did return to the Island for a week or two, and was seen by a very reliable source sitting with Alison Fossey in the Parade Gardens cafe deep in conversation.

No doubt had a few 'loose ends' to tie up!or maybe cover-up would be a more apt phrase!

rico sorda said...

I have been going through my archive in the search of outside Media Consultant Matt Tapp who was called in by David Warcup sometime in 2008 - October I think.

This is very interesting as here we have another consultant. My guess is, he would have been working closely with Mick Gradwell seeing as David Warcup never had a clue what Mick was up to. If we are to believe him.

Matt Tapp left before his work was complete. What is strange is that his work somehow ended up in the hands of the defence team of Wateridge, Aubin & Donelly.

You can read more here

Interim Report 2

Things are starting to fall into place.

I will be having a very close look at this.

Tapp's work was quoted my the sitting Judge

Judge Pitchers

rs

Zoompad said...

It turned out that in 2004 Carter had noticed an unusually high incidence of suicide among men who had passed through Haut de la Garenne. Reviewing the records of 950 former residents, he discovered that a significant number had complained of sexual and physical abuse, describing similar acts and perpetrators, going back to the 50s. Shockingly, even though supervisors at the homes had dutifully noted the complaints, none had been properly investigated.

Carter had sought out victims and taken statements detailing how they were allegedly beaten and raped by older children and staff, and also by Sea Cadet officers, St John Ambulance volunteers and at least one senator in the States Assembly. In April 2006, Carter handed the dossier to Jersey CID. Nothing happened.

Suspecting that allegations of crimes against hundreds of children were being brushed under the carpet, Carter quit the force in late 2006. Now, Harper alerted Graham Power, head of Jersey's police, to the dossier. Appalled, Power contacted the Association of Chief Police Officers which launched an independent inquiry, currently being handled by South Yorkshire. In September 2007, Power gave Harper the go-ahead to launch a full-scale child abuse investigation, with Carter re-employed as a civilian investigator. Together they set up an incident room at Jersey police headquarters in Rouge Bouillon, St Helier. Detective inspector Alison Fossey, another outsider, originally from Strathclyde, was called in to help sift through the first of 4,000 children's files.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=alison%20fossey&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fsociety%2F2009%2Fmar%2F14%2Fhaut-de-la-garenne&ei=6VnNTqT4Iojb8gO_2vm5Cw&usg=AFQjCNHFyQH2ysTqNC57cV9o6O0UD1jwgg&sig2=TkzDEDuh30JP_8RpC6u1tQ

rico sorda said...

This is what the Judge said during the pre-trial of the 3 accused. Please read it carefully. He is referring to the work carried out by outside Media Consultant Matt Tapp.

WHO DISCLOSED MATT TAPPS WORK TO THE DEFENCE TEAM.

THE POLICE?

This is what the judge said

"16. It is very important to be clear why Mr Harper’s conduct has been criticised in Court and elsewhere. He is to be commended and not criticised for taking the allegations of child sex abuse seriously, for investigating them vigorously, and for making clear that anybody coming forward to give evidence would be treated sympathetically and professionally. No proper criticism of him could be advanced for any of that. The legitimate criticisms of him and the potential damage that he did to any inquiry or Court proceedings are best expressed not by me setting out my opinion but by the professional judgment of an outside expert who reviewed this aspect of the case in November 2008. That report has been disclosed to the defence in the course of these proceedings and I quote from its conclusion"

"That report has been disclosed to the defence in the course of these proceedings and I quote from its conclusion:-"

I need some help here.

Is it as simple as the Defence just asking for disclosure.

rs

ANDREW HELLO said...

AVOIR

Zoompad said...

Who employed Matt Tapp, and why? Matt Tapp must have had his CV looked at, the people who were responsible for selecting him gor such a high profile case would have wanted to choose the best possible person. So who was responsible, and on what grounds? These are all relevant questions to be asked.

Zoompad said...

Corporate Communication
Matt's role
Matt directs and leads the development, implementation, governance and evaluation of strategic communications, both internally and externally.

He develops strategic, collaborative communications activity with partner agencies in Nottinghamshire and elsewhere and directs all communictaions in relation to critical incidents.

The Force's advisor on all communications activity, he leads a department of 13 people and attends meetings of the Chief Officer Team.

Duties and responsibilities

Matt is responsible for maintaining and enhancing positive relationships between the police and public and with all other stakeholders including employees, staff associations, media organsations, and public, private sector and voluntary sector organisations in order to generate support for, and engagement in, effective policing activity in Nottinghamshire.

He develops and directs the implementation and evaluation of strategic and tactical communications plans to improve operational performance, to enhance public understanding of, and confidence and participation in, policing services, and to improve the reputation of Nottinghamshire Police.

He is the strategic lead for the force on all communications functions including media services, public relations, marketing, e-services, internal communications, corporate identity and image, stakeholder management, crisis management and partnership communications.

He represents the force at a local and national level on strategic communications issues and as Gold Communications Officer in the context of major and critical incidents, he plans and directs communications strategies, often on behalf of several different agencies in order to ensure public safety and to enhance operational performance.

In liaison with other agencies, he designs and tests contingency plans to manage the communications needs of multi-agency critical issues which threaten public safety and the public’s confidence in the police in Nottinghamshire.

He manages departmental and force budgets in relation to communications activity to ensure the maximum efficiency and effectiveness of all communications activity and provides strategic and tactical communications advice to the Chief Officer Team.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=matt%20tapp%20nottinghamshire%20police&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDsQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nottinghamshire.police.uk%2Fabout%2Four_people%2Fheads_of_departments%2Fcorporate_communication%2F&ei=NF_NTsr8Ao238QPEqunmDw&usg=AFQjCNEH1nklgl63Y6HJiRhWZIv6iwfpjA&sig2=ojdjm4ndj7_3EmQ2lk3-8w

Zoompad said...

What is Matt Tapp's job description? What is he actually being employed to do?

Zoompad said...

Date: 31/05/01
High profile partner joins Cambridge media consultancy


Media consultancy Talking Heads has recruited Cambridgeshire Police's corporate communications head Matt Tapp.

He joins the Cambridge-based firm as managing partner with specific responsibility for expanding its public sector client base.

Experienced consultant Mike Robinson will continue to head up the private sector media and presentation training while Tapp moves the business into new areas.

Talking Heads delivers media management consultancy and training, either in-house at its fully equipped TV and radio studio, or on-site. With presentation and message delivery expertise, it will now also expand into crisis management and specialist PR.

Tapp, 38, was persuaded to move into the business arena after a long and successful career in news journalism and police public relations.

For the last four years he has co-directed the national police press officer training programme and delivered lectures throughout Britain on media management, multi-agency response, risk and crisis management.

He is a serving member of the Home Office Counter Terrorist team, advising UK and overseas law enforcement agencies on the media aspects of terrorist incidents.

During his career Tapp has been asked to review the media handling of major incidents by a number of Police forces and is currently assisting in the review of the investigation into the murder of black musician Michael Menson in the Metropolitan Police area.

He joins Talking Heads after seven years as Director of Corporate Information at Cambridgeshire Police.

'After such a high profile job in a progressive police force like Cambridgeshire it was always going to take a dynamic, forward-thinking and exciting company to make me change tack,' said Tapp.

'Talking Heads is already well established with the private sector in the East Anglia region and has blue chip clients like WorldCom and Arthur Andersen under its belt; but the other partners felt I could put my considerable experience in the public sector to use as a consultant.

'I'm looking forward to the challenge.'

Tapp trained as a journalist in Sussex and moved on to news editing three evening newspapers in the Midlands before joining Warwickshire Police as its force press officer in 1992.

During his time there he dealt with the M40 minibus crash, cases of kidnap and product contamination and more than 30 murder inquiries before moving to Cambridgeshire in 1994.

In the last seven years he's dealt with a range of high profile national incidents including the IRA jailbreak from HMP Whitemoor, the Rikki Neave murder, the runaway foster family and the jailing of a police sergeant for a series of rapes.

Last year he was awarded a Chief Constable's commendation for his handling of the Bramley case.

Talking Heads was started in 1999 as part of the Mason's News Group, which runs one of Britain's biggest press and television agencies from its Cambridge headquarters.

Group Managing Partner Dave Moreau said: 'We're absolutely delighted to be able to offer our clients someone with Matt's experience in such a wide range of public sector issues.

'I've got no doubt the heads of private firms will also benefit from his strategic thinking on news management and how to deal with a potential public crisis.'

*******

Contact: Matt Tapp on 01223 568222 or 07900 408 032, or Dave Moreau on 01223 568222 or 0788 764 58.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=matt%20tapp%20bfms&source=web&cd=7&sqi=2&ved=0CEwQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridgenetwork.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle%2F%3Fobjid%3D24058&ei=vWHNTqqZIIuT8gOpzszUDw&usg=AFQjCNGL2KroMQLwElX6DWSWCx7VGZo7bA&sig2=1NVybsITOYNMHcfVsBtKpA

Ian Evans said...

The SYVRET TREATMENT and the PITMAN TREATMENT

Anonymous said...

Matt Tatt is a media consultant, a former police officer I think but could be wrong. He has worked with David Warcup in Northumbria in the past a bit like a spin docter to make the police look better than they really are! I sent a link about his past involvement with Warcup to Stuart a few weeks ago, I will try and dig it out and send it to you. I remember reading somewhere that Graham Power took a dislike to this man and said something like thanks but no thanks for you input. This smacks in face the same situation as gradwell and kellett!!

rico sorda said...

The Outside Expert was a media expert and this is what he said

Matt TAPP

“From the outset statements released to the media suggested with the language of certainty that crimes had been committed and that there were many victims. For legal reasons, and in order to manage media coverage and public expectation, more temperate and non-judgmental language would have been more appropriate. Statements made in relation to the item recovered on February 23rd [JAR6] were not accurate and incited an enormous media coverage which at times was hysterical and sensational and was in turn equally inaccurate and misleading. The description of cellars, the voids under the flooring, was inaccurate and allowed the media to create a false impression in the public mindset. The description of an item recovered from Haut de la Garenne as “shackles” was not accurate. The language used to describe the bath could have been more accurate. The decision to display to the media a tooth recovered from Haut de la Garenne was highly unusual. The approach taken by the States of Jersey Police to releasing information about the teeth found was unusual, not consistent with normal working practice in the UK and encouraged further media reporting and speculation. Given the lack of evidence collated to prove that a child’s remains had been found at Haut de la Garenne, the statements made by States of Jersey Police could have been more accurately phrased and could have generated more measured and less prominent media coverage. The statement made by the States of Jersey Police regarding the two pits excavated at Haut de la Garenne was inappropriate. The nature and quantity of much of the media coverage was generated and sustained by the Police’s deliberate decision to provide a regular diet of information to the media. Some, but by no means all, the inaccurate media coverage published was challenged by the Force on a number of occasions the Deputy Chief Officer placed information and allegations into the public domain or responded to issues and allegations in the media which distracted attention from the child abuse investigation and this may have tarnished the reputation of the Force and weakened public confidence in the investigation and its professionalism.”

rico sorda said...

"The description of cellars, the voids under the flooring, was inaccurate and allowed the media to create a false impression in the public mindset. The description of an item recovered from Haut de la Garenne as “shackles” was not accurate. The language used to describe the bath could have been more accurate. The decision to display to the media a tooth recovered from Haut de la Garenne was highly unusual."

Remember, this was before the suspension of Graham Power. Again, this seems to have the mark of Gradwell all over it. It now looks that it was in fact the work of Matt Tapp that was used for GP's suspension and not some bogus Met Interim Report. The more I look into this the stranger it gets.

Stuart Syvret cant get disclosure of Graham Powers 62,000 word Statement from the prosecution but the defence lawyers of 3 convicted had no problem getting hold of Matt Tapps work.

What relevance did Mr Tapps work have?

Was it any different to the consultant who did the work for Stuart Syvret in his case against Nurse M? Remember Stuart was denied the use of the evidence supplied by his consultant.

Ask the questions

rs

rico sorda said...

I cant believe this or maybe I should

Who the hell has destroyed the Hansard Facility on the SoJ website?

I was just undertaking some research and it's been nuke.

They don't want us looking back

Could someone else check it incase I have it wrong

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico your blog is being nuked too. I keep getting a warning message on your script when I log in!!!

Ian Evans said...

Yup, Hansard is unplugged, just like the did with the road traffic act last week :)

Anonymous said...

I checked Hansard earlier they seem to have changed it? Trying to make it difficult to research I guess.

Zoompad said...

STATES OF JERSEY HANSARD:

"404 error - sorry, the page you were looking for could not be found Our site has been restructured and redesigned. Here are a few suggestions to help you find the page you are looking for:"

IN OTHER WORDS, NOBBLED!

Anonymous said...

Hansard is back. Site has had an upgrade. It's not as good as it was.

You must have accessed mid-upgrade.

Anonymous said...

Mick Gradwell turns up on the board of SRi Forensics who are based in Manchester. Wonder if they know about his dodgy behaviour in Jersey?

Anonymous said...

Have a read of Kent Polices website about Secondment of employees. Couldn't someone put in a FOI request on the whatdotheyknow website for information on the cost and expenses of Mick Gradwells secondment to Jersey?


http://www.kent.police.uk/about_us/policies/l/l141.html

Anonymous said...

Hansard was ok the way it was. How much did they pay to have it messed up like that? In these hard times they change something that didn't need changing. This is all about making it harder for you budding researches. Call in a media consultant and get it investigated. Lets see if a States Member could raise the issue. Very interesting concerning Matt Tapp.

Anonymous said...

Discussion about the new enhanced States website was on BBC RJ this morning between 7.35 and 7.45

Zoompad said...

The Staffordshire Pindown Hansard entries also seem to have dissapeared.

"Your search - hansard staffordshire pindown - did not match any documents"

Someone is rewriting history. Trying to.

Anonymous said...

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyQuestions/2008/25969-10066-2942008.pdf

On new hansard website with 404 error i clicked on hansard tab on left hand side of page.

Then questions tab on left hand side, then searched by date on right hand side is a tab. Year first then month

Anonymous said...

Zoompad is this what you were looking at?

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyHansard/2008/32599-4239.pdf#search=pindown

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

OPINION MANAGEMENT

Anonymous said...

This is Jersey | Jersey Evening Post

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



‘I’ll resign over police chief appointment’

Wednesday 31st March 2010, 2:58PM BST.







Home Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand.

HOME Affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand will resign if States Members do not back David Warcup as the next police chief.

The Senator warned yesterday that if acting chief officer Mr Warcup was not appointed by the States, he would accept that the House had no confidence in his ministry and would quit. He was speaking after a hearing with the Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny panel yesterday.

The panel wanted to find out why the proposition for Mr Warcup’s appointment had been progressed while current police chief Graham Power remains suspended.

The panel, chaired by Deputy Roy Le Hérissier, asked the Senator whether he would delay the proposition regarding Mr Warcup’s appointment until Mr Power’s retirement in July. The Senator refused and said that he would have started the process for a new chief officer even if Mr Power was still in office, as the department needed continuity.




http://www.thisisjersey.com/latest/2010/03/31/ill-resign-over-police-chief-appointment/

Anonymous said...

BDO gone very quiet after trying to discredit the Scrutiny report. They lok pretty stupid to me now given its fairness to them. You would think they could now hold their hands up and apologize?

Zoompad said...

NO! I have never seen this document before! Thank you so much!

I am looking for the origional Pindown report, I have never been allowed to see the complete document, and yet I am one of the victims! All I have seen so far are some discussions about it on Hansard and a scaled down version, but I have yet to see the full report. I asked for it but noone will give it to me or show me how to find it. My solicitor Richard Wise had it but he died before he had chance to give me a copy.

Thank you so very very much for this!

Zoompad said...

This is a copy of a report called
“The Pindown Experience and the Protection of Children.” It was written by 2 very eminent
people; Allan Levy QC and Barbara Kahan and it was published in 1991 following the Pindown
scandal at Staffordshire County Council. This is the yardstick by which all other reports into Child
Protection failures are gauged against. Its methodology, its comprehensiveness, its rigour, its
absolute dealing with the facts, its reliance on proper evidence and certainly I am very, very much
looking forward to comparing and contrasting the forthcoming report of Mr. Williamson with this
document. But let me describe a little of what this controversy was about and I will quote a little
bit from the report. This is the definition of the so-called Pindown Methodology: “Pindown is
referred to in many different ways in the documentation we received. The following is a list of
some of them; basic Pindown, total Pindown, full Pindown, heavy Pindown” and so on and so on.
There is a whole list: “With some exceptions, the names in the main give a clue as to the approach
used in the practice of Pindown. What, however, are the minimum criteria which qualify the
practice as Pindown? It is almost impossible to be absolutely precise but we decided that 4 features
were usually present. Firstly, isolation for part of the time in part of the children’s home cordoned
off - a special or Pindown unit; secondly, removal of ordinary clothing part of the time and the
enforced wearing of shorts or nightclothes; thirdly, being told to have to earn privileges; and
fourthly, being allowed to attend school or schoolroom in the unit and then being required to
change back into shorts or nightclothes after returning from the school. Full or total Pindown, in
our view, must have the following features. Firstly, persistent isolation in a part of a children’s
home cordoned off as a special Pindown unit; secondly, removing of ordinary clothing for lengthy
periods and the enforced wearing of shorts or nightclothes; thirdly, persistent loss of all privileges;
fourthly, having to knock on the door to impart information, for example, a wish to visit the
bathroom and, fifthly, non-attendance at school, no writing or reading materials, no television, no
radio and even no visits.” Now, this report was written in 1991 and it brought about the end back
then of those kind of practices and policies. Yet, these are very much precisely the kind of policies
which appear to have passed completely by the senior civil servants responsible for this field of
activity for over 2 decades.

Zoompad said...

Thats what they did to me! We had to wear a strange uniform made out of stripy stretchy stuff, with a thin belt. There were cardboard boxes in a sort of a cubbyhole. There were boys shorts, and all these strange uniforms with a sort of diagonal striped pattern, red green yellow blue white, very thin stripes. I have never seen that material anywhere else since then but I would recognise it straight away if ever I saw it.

Zoompad said...

I cant find the Hansard parliamentary discussions with Mark Fisher and Peter Bottemley about the Staffordshire Pindown! They seem to have been taken off!

Zoompad said...

Thank you so very very much for that document, I had never seen it before.

I have had a quick scan and it's making me feel sick to see the way Stuart Syvret is being talked about in it, I am going to read it thoroughly tonight, I have put it on my Kindle.

Stuart is the only politician who has really tried to help me. He gave me a voice on his blog when I was being persecuted. How can they say these things about him? Even my own MP Bill Cash hasn't done anything to help me, he ought to have at the very least helped me to get a copy of the Staffordshire Pindown report. No-one has done anything except Stuart, he's not my MP, he doesn't even live in the UK but he's done more than any of the others!

Its making me feel so sad, they've put him in jail and they are laughing their heads off. All I have had is abuse abuse abuse and Stuart has been kind to me. I feel angry about just the little bit I have read so far.

rico sorda said...

Coming This Sunday

David Rose, Mick Gradwell & CTV

HOW TO OPINION MANAGE & TRASH A CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATION

WHO MADE THE DECISIONS OF THIS DISPICABLE ACT AT CTV?

20 MILLION SHAMBLES?

rs

rico sorda said...

Zoomy

Stuart is ok. He is having a good rest, eating well, getting plenty of work done and more than ready for when he comes out. I know it wasn't nice him going to prison but beieve me out of every negative comes a positive. It was probably what he needed in a strange way. This is the first real rest he has had since 2007. I f someone is laughing then so what. Thjis isn't about people laughing or slagging him this is about the EVIDENCE and the proper rule of law. Now, I have spoken to many people over the years including some lawyers. Even they know the system is broken. Stay focused stay strong.

rs

Anonymous said...

Coming This Sunday

David Rose, Mick Gradwell & CTV

HOW TO OPINION MANAGE & TRASH A CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATION

WHO MADE THE DECISIONS OF THIS DISPICABLE ACT AT CTV?

20 MILLION SHAMBLES?


Bring it on. Will they hand back the Oscar?

Zoompad said...

I know you're right Rico. I know how draining malicious vindictive persecution is. I will try not to get upset any more, it just makes me into a burden rather than a help. Sorry. xx

Anonymous said...

Rico in regards to your "Matt Tapp left before his work was complete. What is strange is that his work somehow ended up in the hands of the defence team of Wateridge, Aubin & Donelly"

Disclosure to the defence team and defendent/s would consist of any material the police have that is relevant to the case.

It could be that it was planned by Warcup/Gradwell and their 'handlers' for a report to be compiled that trashed Lenny Harpers investigation knowing that it would be passed onto defence teams.

Anonymous said...

"Disclosure to the defence team and defendent/s would consist of any material the police have that is relevant to the case

What was this Tapp chap doing. Was he working to some form of TOR's. I can't work out what is going on here. Who is he? How come this mystery chap who was doing god knows what had his work given to a defence team a Judge then used it as some form of gospel at a pretrial. This has got to be an effing joke. If you carry on at this rate the cover up is finished.......

Anonymous said...

Ha hhah the name of the company who employed Matt Tapp

Media consultancy Talking Heads has recruited Cambridgeshire Police's corporate communications head Matt Tapp.

Anonymous said...

Matt Tapp says

"The description of an item recovered from Haut de la Garenne as “shackles” was not accurate. The language used to describe the bath could have been more accurate"

WTF

The bath is lined with beautiful tiles and gerogian taps. It came with a duck. It was in fact a bath within a bath. It was laid out in a very iconic setting.

"The description of an item recovered from Haut de la Garenne as “shackles” was not accurate"

Blame the JEP

Anonymous said...

I cannot find a web site or contact for talkingheads or talking heads media consultancy I have found a link to matt tapp partner in talking heads.

I wonder if it is a one man band self employed self publicised show.

Ian Evans said...

THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

Anonymous said...

I have just signed the John Hemmingway's petition against Stuart's imprisonment:-

JERSEY AND THE IMPRISONMENT OF STUART SYVRET

Responsible department: Office of the Leader of the House of Commons

This E-petition supports Early Day Motion 2370 tabled by John Hemming MP entitled "Jersey and the Imprisonment of Stuart Syvret".

Ian Evans said...

E-PETITION TO CHANGE JERSEY "anonymously" :)

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the judge hearing Stuarts case the past two days will take 5 weeks to give his written answer allowing Stuart to serve his full time, (the jersey way?)

Anonymous said...

I guess the judge will be taking advice from Bailache!!

rico sorda said...

'Inappropriate and unprofessional.'

That's how Jersey's Home Affairs Minister described comments by former police officers in relation to the islands historic abuse investigation..

In the States, Senator Ian Le Marquand said it was regrettable retired officers felt it necessary to publicly criticise the case.

The Home Affairs Minister said it was impossible to know how damming the comments had been. And he was under the impression both Lenny Harper and Mick Gradwell should have been bound by the official secrets act.

He also said an independent enquiry would only duplicate work and would probably be a waste of tax payers money.

22/9/09

ILM already new by then that Gradwell was leaking like a sieve to David Rose.

Tragic it really is. What got into these people. Did they honestly think that no one would look at this stuff.

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico

They probably never expected anyone to keep digging for the truth. Democracy demands a well informed electorate, something that has not been the norm in Jersey. Democracy also demands that people care about maintaining a clean, accountable and transparent system. When all is said and done, you will have made a huge difference, by providing factual information and giving people a reason to care, and even to hope.

Elle

Zoompad said...

"They probably never expected anyone to keep digging for the truth."

Spot on.

Jesus said "The truth shall set you free"

The people who went through the Pindown system and the people who have tried to defend them might as well be in chains, because so many people have conspired to cover up the abuse. It's sad, because some of the people who have been sucked into covering up the abuse are not really wicked cruel people themselves, it's just that they didnt like to rock the boat so they've turned a blind eye. I suppose thats why Jesus was always going on about forgiveness.

The people who do these evil things, most of them will never repent of what they did because they are psychopaths. Psycopaths are cunning, and they can trick a lot of people, they don't have any concience so they never feel sorry for what they have done, they only feel sorry for themselves.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Deputy Montfort Tadier and THE JERSEY EVENING POST

SteelMagnolia said...

http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2011/11/mccann-kate-prout-remains-found-as.html

British media censoring Cadaver Dog Eddie..covering up two birds with one stone, McCanns and the Jersey child abuse scandal..

Remains of Kate Prout have now beeen found !

FBI now lucky enough to have Martin Grime and his dogs Eddie and Keela who it is believed picked up cadaver from Lisa Irwin's home in the States.

Children died on your Island of that there is no doubt !

voiceforchildren said...

Steelmagnolia.

JUVENILE REMAINS

SteelMagnolia said...

Thank -you Voice For Children.

Rico , good morning.

I know you have found nothing to implicate Jimmy Savile and the allegations against him in Jersey but have you found anything on the allegations that swirl around Ted Heath (Mr.Eddy) is it possible Jimmy may have used his position, his closeness with young boys to pimp for Ted Heath?

http://thedisclosureproject-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2011/11/pm-ted-heath-and-young-boys.html

Three child abuse homes and Ted Heath's name pops up in all three of them.

May be nothing but the press continue to print his name Saville surely they know it is Savile ?

I am looking further into this if I find anything of interest will let you know.

Have a good week-end. xx

SteelMagnolia said...

Rico , you are doing a great job take care of yourself now !
A couple of links worth looking at

http://jerseyabusescandal.blogspot.com/2011/10/paedophile-high-level-paedophile-ring.html

SteelMagnolia said...

Neil Munro was he investigating Jersey Rico ?
http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/entries/show/7756601-not-news-of-the-world-police-inspector-s-body-washed-up-on-exclusive-beachfront

SteelMagnolia said...

Good morning Rico,

Whistleblower Richard Peppiatt is talking at the moment about the Daily Mail at the Leveson Inquiry

Fabricated stories with a bonus of 150.00

I will have the transcript and videos for you this afternoon may help you focus on how the Mail works.. for now here is the link and you can see Richards tweets from court in the right hand bar.

http://hackinginquiry.org/news/transcript-of-morning-hearing-day-8/

Anonymous said...

Rico I have little doubt Lenny Harper and Stuart Syvret were hacked, not sure if their names will come up BUT as this is a Goverment cover-up maybe not..however Richard Desmond has confirmed yesterday that several papers were hacking the McCanns.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/1921956/Jersey-police-chief-suspended.html?print=yes

SteelMagnolia said...

Nick Davies Guardian OVER Confident discussing Jersey child abuse you can watch this live now..Will have video and transcripts late this afternoon

http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/hearings/

SteelMagnolia said...

Rico I have just seen you on twitter am now following, you need to follow SPUDGUN and ask him to follow you so you can DM each other and take it from there..here is what Spud had to say on Eddie and Martin Grime. Nick Davies NOW also protecting the McCanns and dissing Jersey this morning GRRRR !!!!

http://jerseyabusescandal.blogspot.com/2011/08/jersey-martin-grime-was-told-to-play.html

Ian Evans said...

How to bring down A GOVERNMENT

Anonymous said...

http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=492864

listen to this interview with Deputy Sean Power. It really does sum up the calibre of our States Members. He was caught red handed and yet can't even admit it.