Sunday, December 4, 2011

COMMITTEE OF ENQUIRY 3



Senator Bailhache in his role as Bailiff





Never be afraid to ask the questions

Here is an email I have sent Senator Bailhache about his conflict of interest. 


I believe in keeping my readers informed as to what is going on 


Truth, Honesty & Integrity


From: rico sorda 
Subject: Committee of Enquiry
To: p.bailhache@gov.je
Cc: i.gorst@gov.je
Date: Sunday, 4 December, 2011, 10:56


Dear Senator Bailhache 



I refer to your recent comments concerning the Committee of Enquiry ("COE") into decades long abuse in the Jersey Care Homes / Fostering Care ("Operation Rectangle").



As Senator Le Marquand will be aware, I have been investigating and asking extensive questions during the past 3 years. 



Senator Bailhache, if you watch the interviews and read the links provided, you will get an idea of where I am coming from regarding my work. 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfI6ULjlkoI&feature=player_embedded



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTvowt1sVok&feature=related



http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/



 Sir Philip; 



During the nomination for Chief Minister you were asked a question by Deputy Tadier.  One of the issues raised was your conflict of interest .  I hope you can clear this up for me but in my opinion you are probably one of the most conflicted individuals in Jersey when It comes to the Historical Child Abuse Investigation ("HCAE"). When Operation Rectangle was launched were you not the Bailiff of Jersey? When the HCAE went global in February 2008 were you not still the Bailiff? As you are well aware, the Bailiff is also Chief Justice, president of the legislature.  Additionally your brother, William Bailhache, was Attorney General during the HCAE, the Sharp Report and the Holland Affair.  You the 2007 Christmas Speech, which was not permitted to be concluded, and the Liberation Day Speech of 2008 when these infamous words were spoken;  


 "All child abuse, wherever it happens, is scandalous, but it is the unjustified and remorseless denigration of Jersey and her people that is the real scandal".



You have been Solicitor General, Attorney General, Deputy Bailiff & Bailiff during the decades of unchecked Child Abuse in the Care Homes of Jersey. I have no doubt that you will be giving evidence to the forthcoming COE. For these reason  I do not believe you should be involved in any shape or form with the COE. I  note the scare mongering has started over the cost of the enquiry (a classic tactic). Let me finish with this:



Decades of abuse occurred in Jersey. We need a root and branch enquiry. All the agencies that failed the children of Jersey need a thorough review. They include the police, the media , all social services, the Crown and anybody in positions of responsibility for the children of Jersey. 




2.4 Deputy M. Tadier:

Earlier this year, the States approved by a democratic majority decision that there should be a committee of inquiry into historical child abuse.  One of the terms of reference that was agreed - again by a majority in the States - was that among others, the role of Crown Officers, including whether there was any political interference with decisions to prosecute, should be one of the terms of reference and it falls to the Chief Minister and his department to implement this committee of inquiry.  So, firstly, is the candidate supportive of the committee of inquiry and, secondly, which steps would he take to minimise any perception of real or perceived conflict of interest, given that he was one of the Crown Officers and a member of the judiciary at the time?

Senator P.M. Bailhache:

Dealing with that last point first.  I am not sure that I had any involvement in any of the issues relating to the child abuse inquiry but if I am wrong in that respect, then clearly I would have to consider my position as to whether I took any part in the decision-making process.  So far as the broader question is concerned, it is a sensitive and very difficult matter.  The Assembly has agreed to establish a committee of inquiry.  The cost of that inquiry was put by the Minister for Treasury and Resources at £10 million.  For my part, I think that was an underestimate and I think that the costs could very well mount to £20 million or even more, given the range of the terms of reference that have been adopted by the Assembly.  That perhaps is not the most important issue.  What is important is that we find a means to bring closure to an issue that has divided the Island and caused anxiety for far too long.  What is also important, it seems to me, is to bring reconciliation to those who have suffered from abuse in the past so that at the end of a long process by a committee of inquiry, if we have one, they feel that something has been gained.  There is nothing to be gained by creating a tortuous process which does not, at the end of the day, satisfy those who have suffered from abuse.  So it is a very difficult issue. 



I look forward to your response regarding my concerns.  




I have Cc; Chief Minister Gorst 




Truth Honesty & Integrity




Kind Regards 




Rico Sorda


43 comments:

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

Dear Rico Sorda, thank you for writing such an honest email to Philip Bailhache, it is written with respect and integrity, it is time for those who have a conflict of interest to allow other people to do a proper job of giving those of us closure and most importantly in the future the States of Jersey to apologise with heart, not coldness for how Jersey did not protect the vulnerable children who lived in Jersey and suffered. The pain never goes away, but at the very least a Government that face the past and look at the faults made so they can learn and then be able to face the future. Thank you, Julie Daly-Wallman x x thank you.

Zoompad said...

"What is also important, it seems to me, is to bring reconciliation to those who have suffered from abuse in the past so that at the end of a long process by a committee of inquiry, if we have one, they feel that something has been gained."

But how can this be, if there are people who have not even recieved a simple apology for how they were treated? If there are people who are STILL being treated maliciously and illegally, in order to cover up the origional abuse?

The priority of ALL the Pindown enquiries should have focussed on the needs of the victims. There should have been access to PROPER (not NLP) councelling, therapy, whatever was needed, if education and career prospects had been destroyed due to the abuse something could have been done to rectify that, if health problems had been caused likewise.

The Jesey Oligarchy tried to treat the HDLG survivors in exactly the same way the bother Pindown survivors have been treated - with contempt. Anyone who has tried, out of pity and concern, to help them has also been treated with contempt.

The Pindown/Grand Prix fiasco was going on all over the UK. They were sending children fromj the West Midlands to HDLG. They were well organised, yet where is all the paperwork? Where bare all the records? Why can't anyone get access to these records? What are they hiding?

GeeGee said...

Bravo Rico - let the conflicted Sir Phil answer your e-mail with honesty.

Whatever the expense of the COI, it must go ahead regardless. Firstly for the victims to bring them some sort of closure which is the most important issue.

Secondly for simply getting the facts and truth out into the open for the sake of all the people of Jersey, the deniers and the believers. Then, and only then will this matter go away.

Failure to hold a full, comprehensive COI means this will rumble on and on 'ad infinitum'. Let us get this out into the open for once and for all.

One query I do have is, why, when we know that Ed Marsden has submitted his suggestions for the TOR to the Council of Ministers, will this be what Mr Gorst says will be discussed in the 'first quarter' between the CoM, or will they discuss this before then and bring it to the States in the 'first quarter'. He does not make this very clear.

Anonymous said...

Not forgetting, it need only be a 'perceived conflict of interest' and it need only be in the minds of the public!!

rico sorda said...

I had a comment that named a certain troll. I wont be publishing any comments unless they are about the serious issues. Lets stay on track and keep asking the questions.

rs

rico sorda said...

Dear Julie

We have come along way over these past 3 years. I will never be afraid to ask anyone the questions that need asking. If the Jersey MSM cant do it we will.

We will keep going until everyone is happy and feel they have had some kind of closure. This will also include an open and transparent COE.

Senator Gorst has the TOR's recommended from Marsden. This will be packaged by the COM and brought to the house by way of proposition in the first quarter of next year. If it doesn't look good amendments can be added. Hence my email to Senator Bailhache today. He and ILM should have nothing to do with it.

rs

Anonymous said...

You have put him on notice in the correct way, and there will be no doubt now that you are looking over the shoulder of any attempts to interfere with the COE.
This might be your most important post ever.

rico sorda said...

Beano

You are right on the money.

lol

rs

rico sorda said...

It is so important that we ask the questions. Sir Philip is now a politician and is answerable to the plebs. The issues I have raised are genuine concerns and ones the MUST be asked.

rs

Anonymous said...

Why do you lump us all in and brand us plebs?
I follow your blog and fully support what your doing, but if you want to be taken seriously forget your social stigma , ie them and us.

Anonymous said...

A very polite, well written letter and should have the courtesy of a polite reply.

ahimsa

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

Dear Rico, when Philip Bailhache made his statement on Liberation Day, as far as I am concerned, he must have nothing to do the child abuse review. He had his chance, I can no longer remember Liberation Day for what it represents, all I can hear is Philip Bailhache's hard words, he had no right to do this, it felt like a knife in my heart I can't forget that.it was not his place to do this. Rico, Ian and Stuart and others like you have given us a voice that for so long found so hard to voice, for that I thank you. Jersey will be a better place once it faces the wrongs and we can only hope for a better future for Jersey. x x I believe we can!

rico sorda said...

Anon

We are run and governed by an old feudal power that has always looked down at the ordinary people (the plebs). The real power in Jersey runs through the Crown. There is still an old guard wielding the real power, this is done through the Judiciary. The use of the word Pleb is not meant to be derogatory but as a way the real power views the ordinary people of Jersey. I do not mean to offend,never have.

rs

rico sorda said...

Julie

The closing down of the 2007 Christmas speech of Stuart Syvret & the 2008 Liberation day speech is enough to keep Senator Bailhache away from the TOR's of the forthcoming COE.

rs

Anonymous said...

Sorry to say RICO , Jersey is one of those places that if your making enough money and are successful whether it is a business or your working for The Firm (States of Jersey inc) you meet the right people to change things.
It's all about networking.
You are just so conditioned into thinking its a them and us scenario .
Slowly the old guard is changing.
Thank the Lord.

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

I am praying hard as I write that Philip Bailhache does the right thing. The child abuse review is for the people who have suffered in the hands of others and the Social Services have a huge part in this review. It's our one and only chance of finding some inner peace and the real truth. We do exist, we are important. It won't stop the hurt, the hurt is forever, the pain is forever, finding inner peace in that Jersey is at last going to face its mistakes, apologise with real care and learn, so that the past never ever happens again. That's all we can pray for. I am praying harder than I have ever prayed before.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

You said.

"Sir Philip is now a politician and is answerable to the plebs."

In 3 years time he might be answerable if he stands for election again, until then he'll not answer to anybody, we've learnt that from people like Ian Le Marquand, he'll just ignore you and your e-mails that's how it works. How long and how many times have we asked ILM for some kind of scientific evidence as to how a fragment of child's skull turns into coconut? Philip Bailhache will be no different, he knows as well as anybody that he could be one of the most conflicted people there is when it comes to this committee of enquiry.

One must remember that this COE has been "democratically" passed by the States and what does Philip Bailhache say?

" if we have one, they feel that something has been gained. "

"IF" we have one? One must also remember that the State Media are all onboard to "opinion manage" and will be all fired up to ostracise any "Meddlers" that are keen to discover the truth as to how children could be Abused FOR DECADES in Jersey State run "care" institutions.

Zoompad said...

"We will keep going until everyone is happy and feel they have had some kind of closure."

I'm not one of the Jersey Grand Prix/Pindown victims of child abuse, I'm one of the Staffordshire ones, I found Stuarts blog whiloe I was being persecuted in the secret family courts, all part and parcel of the persecution I have had to endure as part of the Pindown cover up.

Now. I feel so guilty about Stuart being in prison, because I just keep thinking that if I hadn't joined in maybe the HDLG investigation might have had more chance of getting justice for those people and maybe Stuart wouldn't have ended up in prison.

But I was desperate! I didnt know what to do, Staffordshire had covered up the Stafford Pindown abuse and my solicitor Richard Wise was dead in suspicious circumstances as far as I am concerned, because what they said in the newspapers about him being ill for a long time was rubbish, I knew vhim, he was fit as a fiddle.

Stuart has helped me so much, he's been kind to me and listened to me and let me post on his blog. I was going to the church and they didnt want to know, the vicars, I kept asking and begging people to help me and either they didnt want to or they were too scared. But Stuart did help me, by giving me a voice.

I could never walk away from all this now unless I know that everyone who has helped or been hurt in the HDLG childrens home is ok, and that includes Stuart. As far as I am concerned, he's one of us now, he's been persecuted and lost his job and had his life trashed, because of helping us Pindown survivors. I cant do much but one thing I can do is to keep telling people about it all.

Anonymous said...

Did you know that your friend that's in La Moye, was under surveillance for drugs. She was being followed and her shop in St Aubins was also beeing watched.
Why was a guy taking apart a manquin on his knees on a Sunday afternoon, she never even had dummies in her window.

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

I feel exactly the same re: Stuart Syvret, I feel so guilty too, that he is in prison. I am going to go door to door and ask people to sign the House of Commons petition, if it's 100,000 signatures then that is what we will get to see change in the legal system and for Stuart, I too feel so guilty. When I saw brave Stuart on the Paxman interview, he was so brave and look at him now, I have received an email from Mr Hemmings and he said I can go door to door and ask people to sign, so over Christmas I intend to do this, whatever it takes, Stuart deserves support for what he has done for us. x

rico sorda said...

Ref My Friend

Im waiting for her to come out of La Moye so I can have a good look at her case. She was afraid to appeal and has decided to see out her sentence. I know nothing ref the drug issue.


Please don't worry about Stuart he is doing fine. Like I have said before all is well with him. He has settled in well and as you can imagine is not get any difficulties from other inmates. He is working hard on his cases. This is all about the long haul. They have given him one of their biggest deterrents 'Prison' he has taken it and carries on the fight.

There is still so much more to come. This is all combined with the Committee of Enquiry and the decades of concealed Child Abuse. Remember the Terry Le Suer 'Strike Out'

rs

Anonymous said...

We all know politicians are
answerable to no one why do they become politicians,no one will touch him or have the guts to.

rico sorda said...

I noticed a small mistake in the original email to Senator Bailhache so have rectified it.

From: rico sorda
Subject: Fw: Committee of Enquiry
To: p.bailhache@gov.je
Cc: i.gorst@gov.je
Date: Sunday, 4 December, 2011, 21:54


Dear Senator Bailhache

I have notice a small mistake in my original email I wrote "or these reason I do not believe you should be involved in any shape or form with the COE" What I meant to say was that you should not be involved in anyway with the forming of the TOR's.

Sorry about that

Kind Regards

Rico Sorda

Zoompad said...

I can't sign that petition that John Hemmings started, I won't have anything to do with anything that man has done, I don't even want to breath the same air as John Hemmings and everybody who knows me knows why including Stuart.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Briefing Note Number 5 REVISITED

Anonymous said...

It seems a good idea to me to sign the petition of support for stuarts fight against the legal system-As it is all most people can do at the moment to show their support.
If everyone e-mailed it to their contacts and they e-mailed it on top more it could generate a lot of signatures quickly.- Maybe some links to key pieces of information would help for those who have been following the JEPS version of events would be useful.-
Spread the word, Isn't that a good idea?

Anonymous said...

Whilst you're at it Rico, why don't you ask him why, given the amount of Jersey people out of work, why we are still letting in to the Island, hundreds upon hundreds of of foreign economic migrants, who are doing nothing more than making a bad situation worse!

Not only are they supressing the wage market over here, but also helping to keep the price of rented property out of the reach of a lot of Jersey men and women.

Another issue you could get your teath into!

rico sorda said...

Hi Anon

I don't need to be getting my teeth into any more issues other than the ones I already do. The beauty here is that Senator Bailhache is a politician and answerable to you. You will locate his email address on my main posting then you can email him with your concerns. Any reply you get you can post here if you like. I don't have the time for all the issues facing this Island.

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico

I salute you for keeping your focus on the issue at hand. Of course there are many other matters of importance, but you are one of those few people making an actual difference and it is because you channel your limited personal time into investigating the unending corruption of the facts regarding the child abuse situation.

We should do what we can to assist and support that, because it is more than any one person can possibly handle alone. If we can research related material to contribute, or help bring your reporting to the attention of those who have never heard the facts, we are part of the solution. There are so many potentially helpful organizations and individuals out there who still need to be made aware of what you are steadily uncovering.

If we are more concerned with other issues which need serious attention, instead of pressing you, yourself, to move to a different direction, we should start our own blogs, utilize social networking, volunteer for an organization, or run for office.

If we have limited time to contribute we can always add to the power of this blog by reading and commenting in support, to keep your investigative reporting alive one person at a time. In an oppressive environment where many feel hopeless about change, it is important to demonstrate ways that every single person who wants to, can make a daily difference, even anonymously.

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

I have just been out and about for 5 hours and have 200 signatures, if I get this amount every day then we will have more than 100,000 signatures, 'it's better to be doing', I don't know Mr Hemmings, I don't really know Stuart. But I do know this. The legal system in Jersey has never been challenged, it needs a complete tidy up from the bottom up! and if all I can do is get enough signatures and gain confidence when I get back home to Jersey to show we have signatures, then that is what I am to do! I admire Stuart, he has been a voice and now he has another voice, and so on... more voices! I want to use my energy in a positive way, a doing way! We all have a role in change, we all have work to do! lets use our time in a good way!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know why John Hemmings EDM no. 2370. Has not been regestered yet?

Anonymous said...

Bravo Julie! You, and those like Rico who keep moving forward will accomplish more than a thousand people simply moaning about the negative state of affairs, and criticizing each other's heroic efforts. A very small number of positive people like yourself can create the change others believe to be impossible.

Elle

rico sorda said...

Hi Anon

The problem I have is finding the time to do what I do.

I don't have the time for the other issues that concern Jersey and they are for other people to take up the fight if they so wish. I have always just focused on the Child Abuse Cover-up. When I started looking at it I told the VFC that I would concentrate on Graham Power. By Looking at what happened to him we would get an idea as to what went on.

Im just a normal person what I do isn't that fantastic it's just basic. One of the best assets I have is that I love to read always have. I love absorbing information and cross checking things to see if it all adds up I get a buzz out of it. I have always thought there are those that do and those that don't.

I decided some years back to do something


When I stated Fear ruled the roost

10 seconds later it was gone

rs

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

Dear Elle, very kind. But we all have a role. Few people that DO is a start! and it's the starting that matters, Rico, Stuart and Ian have inspired me to do! They were there through it all, every signature is a step to change, every well thought honest email Rico writes is a step closer, every day Stuart spends in his prison cell is a day nearer to his freedom, every blog Ian creates, gets more people to do..... it's not about if, it's a matter of when and we have the power to do our bit, however small, however big, it's about trying! better to have tried then to have never tried at all, WE CAN DO IT! WE REALLY CAN!

Zoompad said...

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=zoompads%20blog%20john%20hemming&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fzoompad.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F10%2Fjohn-hemming-mp.html&ei=xt3dTvS4MIGohAfYlN3pBA&usg=AFQjCNGFwEe7sdlYmwI4PeP00IkfuAwRww&sig2=utjKvGCriASnn5Frl1PI1g

rico sorda said...

I still haven't received a reply from Senator Bailhache. I will give him a little more time then send a reminder. Im working on some new postings at the moment.

Can I just say a very big thank you to all you people who support the work being done by the Jersey Bloggers. The readership is on the up so the word must be getting out.

We do this because we care & because the MSM is more interested in the insides of a carrot cake

rs

Zoompad said...

I am going to write to Bridget Shaw and her husband, they are getting a Christmas card from me, nothing nasty, I never write nasty letters, but I think they need to have a copy of Stuarts Christmas speech to pin onto the church notice board. It is a wonderful speech that must be read and re read.

I do not know if I can swallow my anger and manage to write to that man who plotted against Stuart and got him put into prison, and who has posted things onto that horrible blog, but perhaps I could just send him a Christmas card, with a few Bible quotations, perhaps the ones Stuart used in his Christmas speech, after all, it is supposed to be the season of good will to all men, isn't it? I will have to try to remember not to call him Mr Bellyache, although the things he has done have certainly given me a bad feeling in my stomach. I am still very very sad about Stuart being in prison, and I know he's being well treated and everything, but it's terrible that such a man should be treated in such a dishonourable way. The people of Jersey ought to be proud of such a man as he is, and want to help him and bless him for what he has tried to do, not have him put into prison. It makes me feel sad.

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

I am very proud of Stuart Syvret, he does some things in a different way, but his heart is in the right place. He is angry, why on earth wouldn't he be? He has lost his job, his livelihood for standing for what he truly believes in,

I also do not believe in Jersey we have a fair legal system, I do not acknowledge the Jersey Law as proper law, it needs serous updating.

When I go out and ask people to sign the petition, I smile as it's for Stuart and against the legal system that allowed him to go into prison.

I hope to meet him someday.

When few people hold power for too long, it's dangerous, I don't believe people are born to not be good people, I believe the system has allowed it to happen.

The feedback on signatures has been very good and has given me the confidence to go home to people in Jersey in the coming weeks.

Any legal system must have checks and balances, when this is not happening, the problems we have in Jersey are all too often so visible to see, they are staring us right in the face.

it's facing the faults that is the hardest part. I believe that's the key!

Julie Daly-Wallman said...

Rico, as a support to you let me know if you do not get a response from Mr Philip Bailhache, I will write a letter to him and cc Mr Gorst. I will have words to write that may not be what he wants to read but as a politician need to. My letter will be fair and above all be a support to yours.

rico sorda said...

I would say that everyone should write/email Senator Bailhache with any concerns they might have. I believe he is away on States Business at the moment, that is why im cutting him a little slack . Any email/letter should be courteous and to the point. Ask legitimate questions, or just raise some points. If you want answers keep going until you receive them.

Go for it

Rs

Zoompad said...

Rico, I want to send my letter snail mail. Do you know where I can send it to? Would it be to the states chamber or what?

I will be civil to the man. I never write nasty or offensive letters, although I have been maliciuously and falsely accused of doing so, hence the visit to my home by two police officers last year, sent by people who ought to have been prosecuted for maliciously wasting police time.

rico sorda said...

L'Anquetinerie
Grouville
JE3 9UX

There you go zoomy.

rs

rico sorda said...

Dear readers

This is the reply I have received from Senator Bailhache. I will be emailing him back shortly. I post it here so you can keep up on what is happening.

This is done in an open and transparent way. The Committee of Enquiry is so important. It must be allowed to go ahead with a very robust terms of reference. The Abuse Survivors past and present deserve nothing less.

From: Sir Philip Bailhache (Senator)
Subject: RE: Committee of Enquiry
To: "rico sorda"
Cc: "Ian Gorst"
Date: Thursday, 8 December, 2011, 18:36

Dear Mr Sorda,

I shall give careful consideration to all the points that you make.

Kind regards,

Philip Bailhache