Monday, August 27, 2012

CHIEF MINISTER GORST - TIME TO STEP DOWN?




"THE TERMS OF REFERENCE  WERE TO FAR REACHING" 




I ASK YOU, THE READERS, TO LOOK AGAIN AT THE TOR'S AS SUPPLIED BY VERITA AND ASK YOURSELF ARE THESE REALLY TO FAR REACHING?




I ASK THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO READ THIS BLOG FROM OUTSIDE OF JERSEY  - ARE THESE TOR'S INTO DECADES OF CHILD ABUSE IN THE JERSEY CARE HOMES REALLY TO FAR RANGING FOR A COMMITTEE OF ENQUIRY?



THIS IS WHY CHIEF MINISTER GORST SAYS HE CALLED IN ANDREW WILLIAMSON. 


I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.


UK Child Care Expert Andrew Williamson has been here before. Does Andrew Williamson have a conflict of interest here. 


In June 2008 Andrew Williamson was appointed by the Chief Minister and Council of Ministers of the states of Jersey on the 23rd August 2007 to undertake an inquiry into issues relating to child protection in Jersey.  In his report, Williamson gives the Jersey Care Homes a clean bill of health. His report doesn't look at past care only the present.




There are many questions and overlaps between the Williamson Report and a future Committee of Enquiry. Who did he interview? Were the people interviewed in place during the decades of abuse? If so, did they know? What action did they take? 


This is the overlap I'm seeing between Williamson and a Committee of Enquiry:





Here are the Terms of Reference as supplied by Verita 




Terms Of Reference


The Committee of Inquiry is asked to do the following:



Establish the facts

. Establish the type and nature of children's homes and fostering services in Jersey in the post-war period with a particular focus on the period after 1960. Consider (in general terms) why children were placed and maintained in these services

. Determine the organisation (including recruitment and supervision of staff), management, governance and culture of children's homes and the social norms under which they operated.

. Examine the political oversight of childrens homes and fostering services by the various education committees between 1960 and 1995, by the various health and social services committees between 1996 and 2005 and by ministerial government from 2006 to the current day.

. Establish a chronology of significant changes in child care practice and policy during this period with reference to Jersey, the UK and, if appropriate, France

. Consider and appraise the independent investigations and reports conducted in response to the concerns raised in 2007


What was done in response to concerns of abuse?

. Consider the experiences of those witness who suffered abuse or believe that they suffered abuse and hear staff who worked in these services.

. Identify how and by what means concerns about abuse were raised and how and to whom they were reported. Did systems exist to allow children and others to raise concerns and safeguard their wellbeing?

. Consider how the education, health and social services department dealt with concerns about alleged abuse, what action they took and whether they were in line with the policies and procedures of the day.

. Establish, where abuse was suspected, whether it was reported to the appropriate bodies including the States of Jersey Police and what action was taken by persons or entities including the police and whether this was in line with policies and procedures of the day

. Determine whether the concerns of 2007 were sufficiant to justify the States of Jersey Police setting in train Operation Rectangle

. Determine whether, on reviewing files submitted by the States of Jersey Police for consideration as to whether, on reviewing files submitted by the states of Jersey Police for consideration as to whether or not a prosecution should be brought, those responsible for deciding on which cases to prosecute took a consistent and impartial approach and whether the process was free from any political interference at any level


Children's services in 2011

. Set out what lessons can be learnt for the current system of residential and foster care services in Jersey



Government 

Review what actions the government took when concerns came to light in 2008 and what, if any, lessons there are to be learned 


General 

. Report on any other issues arising during the inquiry considered to be relevant to the past safety of children in residential or foster care

The inquiry should make full use of all the work conducted since 2007

At an appropriate moment, the inquiry should hold a seminar(s) to enable a broader discussion of some of the themes raised by the evidence. The seminar(s) will not make recommendations to the chair but will provide ideas and information that will form of the material to be considered as the report is drafted - END





I ask you, the readers - Is this really to far reaching when talking about decades long Child Abuse?

Should the above Tor's supplied by Verita really be causing the Chief Minister and his Council of Minister problems?????


The simple answer is NO


It's a complete and utter farce


And yet it just carries on.


Rico Sorda 

Investigative Journalist 

28 comments:

rico sorda said...

Seriously, just look at the TOR's and ask yourself what could possibly be the problem for Chief Minister Gorst and his COM????

How can anyone defend this?

Now its meetings with Williamson. They do this with every report they don't like.

Who was to blame for Lime Grove?

The Comptroller and Auditor General lol - lol - lol and they get away with it. The Jersey Media do nothing. The man who was independent and wrote the report into the failings of Lime Grove had to go.

lol - LOL

And what did our States do???????? Bottled a vote of no confidence

We should be scared, very scared.

rs

Anonymous said...

If anything the Verita TOR's don't go far enough but are the basis of a good start which can be expanded. So Gorst brings in Williamson to water them down!?

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

The question has to be asked,how long is CM Gorst prepared to play along with this charade? If the TOR'S and the subsequent COI are not robust, open and transparent then it is him that will be mostly responsible for the oh so sacred image of Jersey remaining lower than a snakes belly for years/decades to come.

The truth needs to be recognised, and dealt with, before the Abuse Survivors/Victims and Jersey as a whole can move forward.

rico sorda said...

I believe the only way Jersey can move forward is the removal of the Bailhache Brothers.

They are from the old feudal power and have no place in the 21st Century.

Time is on our side. i will be posting about this soon.

rs

Anonymous said...

Bailhache has hijacked the electoral commission to make sure he stays in power but has played a blinder by letting Gorst take the wrap for the continued child abuse cover up.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Why Jersey's State Media are not TRUSTED

Ian Evans said...

As comment 2 states Rico, the TOR's are really just a firm base from which to initiate proceedings, it is what that firm base will morph into that scares the hell out of old spineless and his cronies.

The LAWYERS know this too.

GeeGee said...

Firstly Rico - welcome back.

The ToR's from Verita were without doubt fair to both sides and could not be faulted. When I learnt that Williamson was to 'review' (another word for produce a new set of ToR's), I read his previous report from cover to cover.

Clearly he is an 'our chap', because his first report was very lacking in any sort of depth.

Consider the Verita Report on the Hospital which was concise, honest and damning and therein lies the difference between the anticipated ToR's that Williamson and the totally useless Chief Minister, prompted by 'others' will try and come up with.

Believe you me there will be a massive hue and cry if Verita's are diminished in any way. How on earth can ToR's on this disgraceful and damning episode be 'too broad'?.

Ask yourselves - who is pushing the buttons? and why?

Anonymous said...

The CM placed an sdvert in the filthy rag inviting any interested parties to contact Williamsons secretary to make an appointment to meet with him to discuss the COM and the TOR. Some people did make contact to include survivors and at least one Lawyer but very few people managed to get an appointment to meet with him. The Lawyer received an invitation to meet with Williamson only after Williamson had submitted his final report to the CM. Where is the bloody point in that! This man is not to be trusted.

rico sorda said...

This is the Verita Terms of Reference;


Establish the facts

. Establish the type and nature of children's homes and fostering services in Jersey in the post-war period with a particular focus on the period after 1960. Consider (in general terms) why children were placed and maintained in these services

. Determine the organisation (including recruitment and supervision of staff), management, governance and culture of children's homes and the social norms under which they operated.

. Examine the political oversight of childrens homes and fostering services by the various education committees between 1960 and 1995, by the various health and social services committees between 1996 and 2005 and by ministerial government from 2006 to the current day.

. Establish a chronology of significant changes in child care practice and policy during this period with reference to Jersey, the UK and, if appropriate, France

. Consider and appraise the independent investigations and reports conducted in response to the concerns raised in 2007


What was done in response to concerns of abuse?

. Consider the experiences of those witness who suffered abuse or believe that they suffered abuse and hear staff who worked in these services.

. Identify how and by what means concerns about abuse were raised and how and to whom they were reported. Did systems exist to allow children and others to raise concerns and safeguard their wellbeing?

. Consider how the education, health and social services department dealt with concerns about alleged abuse, what action they took and whether they were in line with the policies and procedures of the day.

. Establish, where abuse was suspected, whether it was reported to the appropriate bodies including the States of Jersey Police and what action was taken by persons or entities including the police and whether this was in line with policies and procedures of the day

. Determine whether the concerns of 2007 were sufficiant to justify the States of Jersey Police setting in train Operation Rectangle

. Determine whether, on reviewing files submitted by the States of Jersey Police for consideration as to whether, on reviewing files submitted by the states of Jersey Police for consideration as to whether or not a prosecution should be brought, those responsible for deciding on which cases to prosecute took a consistent and impartial approach and whether the process was free from any political interference at any level


Children's services in 2011

. Set out what lessons can be learnt for the current system of residential and foster care services in Jersey



Government

Review what actions the government took when concerns came to light in 2008 and what, if any, lessons there are to be learned


General

. Report on any other issues arising during the inquiry considered to be relevant to the past safety of children in residential or foster care

The inquiry should make full use of all the work conducted since 2007

At an appropriate moment, the inquiry should hold a seminar(s) to enable a broader discussion of some of the themes raised by the evidence. The seminar(s) will not make recommendations to the chair but will provide ideas and information that will form of the material to be considered as the report is drafted


The Chief Minister and his Council of Ministers can't handle it.


It speaks volumes.


How can you justify their actions for not getting this underway about a year ago..

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico.

There is no way Gorst will step down, or that he will ever loose a vote of no confidence.

Not with the present majority of ineffectual States members.

The vote would no doubt go 80% for and 20% against.

And there is not a damn thing we can do about it!

The result of the sabataged Electoral Commission will no doubt prove this.

Deputy Montfort Tadier said...

Hi Rico,

The recent performance of our Chief Minister has been disappointing to say the least. He was weak on the need to have a truly Independent Electoral Commission, and this does not bode well for the Committee of Inquiry. It has become clear that certain elements in the Council of Ministers are more influential than the Chief Minister himself.

Mr Williamson is coming to Jersey on 3rd September to present his report and Terms of Reference to States Members. It is not clear why Mr Williamson was engaged secretly, without the knowledge of the Care Leavers, Bob Hill and myself. It is unclear whether Sen. Le Gresley knew.

It is also unclear what was wrong with Verita's ToR, as you say in your blog.

It is unclear why Mr Marsden was not given the chance to present his report to States Members.

I email Ed Marsden, from Verita yesterday, and he has confirmed he would be happy to come over to Jersey to present his report to States Members on 3rd.

I have emailed States Members, the Chief Minister and acting Chief Minister (that's Senator Le Marquand, btw, not Senator Bailhache), asking for Mr Marsden to be invited over too, but have had no response.

I emailed the Chief Minister 3 weeks ago, asking for both Mr Williamson's report and Verita to be released, so we could read through them both.

Deputy Le Hérissier has asked the Chief Minister and Acting Chief Minister today that we be given Williamson's report at least 3 days before the presentation, so members who are interested can read through it and ask questions.

Let this go on record. We are being stonewalled at every turn, however I remain hopeful.

rico sorda said...

Dear Deputy Tadier,

Thank you for informing my readers as to the state of play concerning the farcical actions of out present council of ministers under Chief Minister Gorst.

How can they be struggling so much with something so simple?

Lets remember there are some members of this current COM who voted against the original Committee of Enquiry. I will remind readers soon who they are.

The Chief Minister must be asked in the most rebuts way why he has failed to handle something so simple. My guess is that he has had his hands tied behind his back on this. My Guess it's more likely the inputs of the likes of Le Marquand, Bailhache and co that are trying to protect a failing system and the people that ran it.

Mr Marsden must be asked to come over. But what excuse will they use not to? This will scupper there best laid plans.

Do not let this go Deputy Tadier.

Demand answers

rs

Ian Evans said...

You are being stone-walled at every turn because the enemy knows you are gutless, it's as simple as that.

How many of our wonderful representatives have called for the Jersey Parliament to be dissolved???

Grow some God Damned Nads!!!

DO IT!!!

rico sorda said...

Ian,

You are correct in what you are saying. The time has come for some serious action. Im now relying on Deputy Tadier to make a firm stand with what is going on with the Committee of Enquiry.

It is time for our decent politicians to say enough is enough.

It should start on the 3rd September

rs

Ian Evans said...

It should have started four years ago, minimum, but better late than never!

If it happens?

Anonymous said...

Outside help is required....

20% against 80% is impossible!?

Ian Evans said...

Change can only come from within, write to the Queen, ask for the Jersey Parliament to be dissolved, let us have the opportunity of a fresh start. A fresh start that we "ALL" can embrace and prosper from....

Ian Evans said...

"Outside help is required....

20% against 80% is impossible!?"


You look to others for your own freedom?

And that's all I have to say about that!

Deputy Montfort Tadier said...

Ian,

I can assure you that I do have a gut. It is something I am trying to get rid of, actually. It has grown since getting into politics. As for growing nads, then I would have 4 nads. I would then have to get my pants adjusted. No, I don't think either of those work...

Ian Evans said...

SHEEP!!!

rico sorda said...

Lets just concentrate on the most important issue here.

Monty, if you could keep my readers up to speed on any replies that would be most helpful. Now is the time for action. I will be breaking down the terms of reference over the week and showing you why they are scared about this COI and what it will expose.

rs

rico sorda said...

One of the reasons the Verita Report and Terms of Reference into a Committee of Enquiry into Decades of Child Abuse in the Jersey Care Homes hasn't been released to States Members yet must be because of embarrassment.

Embarrassment that they have been unable or willing to put it into action.

Can you believe the Verita Report was released to the Chief Minister in November 2011 and the States Members haven't received a copy yet.

You just can't make this up

Now there is a meeting on the 3rd September and it still hasn't been released.

rs

GeeGee said...

Ahhh - it is all becoming very clear indeed!

Sorry this is cryptic, but hopefully I will leave a further comment to explain today.

Shambles.

GeeGee said...

OK - events are now pretty much the knowledge of those that need to know so all I will say is time to unite and fight for all the abuse victims.

.....and don't be afraid to stand up for what is just and right.

Anonymous said...

That was really informative.

GeeGee said...

Sorry, but after a long tiring day I felt the need to go into matters in depth was going to be unneccessary as the next few days should reveal what goes on that we need to fight for.

I was exhausted and angry - not the best time for posting comments!

Anonymous said...

Rico,
Over many, many years of casting my vote for the role of politicians in this Island, I have to say seldom have I got it wrong (as far as my scruples are concerned) but I have to say my vote for Ian Gorst in the last election was a mistake of massive proportions, when on numerous occaisions he has been placed in a position to show 'testicular fortitude' he has caved in...why?. Ian I implore you, for goodness sake you are simply 'a man' you may well not be in politics for long but get some backbone and do what you damn well know is the right thing and as Chief Minister put the well being of the people of this Island before ANY pathetic pressure from the likes of the 'Power mad' few. Remember decisions are short term, History of your actions is for eternity.