Wednesday, July 17, 2013

THE STATES OF JERSEY WAKE UP JUST IN TIME.

SENATOR BAILHACHE - DEFEATED




"DEFEATED"



"SIR, PHILIP BAILHACHE DEFEATED"



"THE FOG CLEARS AND THE STATES WAKE UP"



"21 STILL IN A TRANCE"



The whole  'Electoral Reform' was something really credible thanks to the former Deputy of St Mary. Then Philip Bailhache got elected and the rest as they say is history.

Have the majority of States Members finally sussed Sir Philip out? Has the meteorite finally broken into Jersey's orbit? Questions, so many questions. I applaud the 28 who stood up and said NO.

THEY - THE ELITE - WANT TO RUN JERSEY AS A BUSINESS - THIS STARTS WITH REDUCING THE STATES TO 42. 

ZERO  SCRUTINY - ZERO QUESTIONS - LEGISLATION PASSED WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONS OR OPPOSITION.

 THIS IS WHAT THEY WANTED - THEY FAILED.


Lets just cut straight to the chase here. 


The three options passed in the states and given to the public of jersey were complete garbage. 


If you bake a cake and the inside is rotten, it will remain rotten. No matter how many decorations or layers of icing you add to it - it will remain rotten. This is what happened to the hijacked referendum chaired by Sir Philip Bailhache.  This was one of the bravest decisions made in the states for a very long time. I'm happy for things to remain as they are for the time being. The number 42 was the elephant in the room not the role of the Constables. 


Senator Bailhache has failed with Plémont - failed with becoming Chief Minister - failed with the hijacked electoral commission - failed with complete memory loss as to what documents he was reading on a plane (would make a great Foreign Affairs Minister) failed with the  Committee of Enquiry into decades long Child Abuse being kicked into the long grass. The man is suffering more defeats than he probably wishes to talk about. Has he been sussed out? He is an out of touch dinosaur.  


They can spin all they like.


Senator Gorst - Senator Ozouf - Deputy Power  and the rest of the 21 clowns can you hear me??? I SAID CAN YOU HEAR ME

YOUR MAN TOOK ONE HELL OF A BEATING


REMEMBER THE 21 CLOWNS- JERSEY BREATHES AGAIN.


This is what I said on my blog posting of March 16th 2013:

REFORMING THE STATES OF JERSEY - AND THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE OF JERSEY


IN MY HUMBLE OPINION - A CROCK OF STINKING DOG POO

"IF 3 IS THE MAGIC NUMBER - WHAT IS 42???"

THE DOG IS CHASING HIS TAIL.

Would you, the Jersey public, willingly set sail in a boat with a dodgy hull? The answer would have to be a resounding "NO." So why does the States of Jersey and its Electoral Commission  believe it's ok to force you to do just that? There comes a time when you really have to call it how you see it. It really is a "Crock of stinking dog poo." 

Having re-read the whole debate again on Hansard i'm shocked and surprised that this referendum was even passed in the states. Again, this highlights the complete follie that is the States of Jersey. Something that is quite clearly not fit for purpose is given to the Jersey public. The people who have formed groups to champion their chosen preference are running blind. They have been so eager to get going and campaigning that they have taken their eyes of the sheer madness of it all. 

These are the 3 options.

Reform Option A: Parish Constables will no longer be members of the States There will be 42 States members known as Deputies. There will be six large districts, each choosing seven Deputies.

Reform Option B: Parish Constables will continue to be members of the States There will be 42 States members: 30 Deputies and 12 parish Constables There will be six large districts, each choosing five Deputies.

Reform Option C: The current system will remain. There will be 49 States members from 2014: eight Senators elected island-wide, 29 Deputies elected in constituencies and 12 parish Constables.

How will I vote on the 24th April 2013. At this present moment I will be writing "NONE OF THE ABOVE" across my paper. I simply don't like any of the options. If I had to push myself I would go for A as I would like to see the Constables removed from the states. Now here is my problem. Both options A and B operate with 42 members. I don't believe the States can operate with 42 members and nor have I seen or read anything that can assure me it can. We are going into this Blind.  I don't want to spoil my paper and don't take this decision lightly. I simply refuse to compromise my position by taking a decision that I could seriously regret further down the line. The states does need reforming. Option C is a simple No for me. 



Rico Sorda

Part Time Investigative Journalist 

41 comments:

rico sorda said...

The 'Jersey Way' has been led by the Bailhache Brothers since the 70's father time is now catching up on them. Watch out for the pyres burning in Grouville as they try to cover their tracks over the coming months and years.

This isn't a rant this is the jersey way.

Anonymous said...

Bailhache is out of touch and out of date who has been sussed out by those who once held him in high regard since he became overtly political. He is a failure and should now bow out of public life.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

If we had an independent mainstream media over here this would never have got as far as it did.

We were given a referendum that wasn't a referendum and were offered reform that wasn't reform all thanks to Senator Bailhache for hijacking the independent Electoral Commission.

Now the State Media is trying to blame ALL politicians for supposedly not listening to the electorate rather than calling for Senator Bailhache's resignation for his botched attempts at controlling EVERYTHING.

Slowly but surely Jersey is creeping towards democracy and credit to the 28 for helping it on its way.

Anonymous said...

Bellyache is from a bygone era of feudalism and has no concept of democracy so that is why it's time for him to move out of the way and allow this island to breathe.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Not forgetting that Senator Bailhache was the head of Jersey JUSTICE

Anonymous said...

Good.
Common sense prevailed in the end.

I've just seen some member of the public on Channel News say that they're hypocrites because they get voted in with fewer votes and then ignore this result.....

But let's consider the numbers, in Senatorial elections because only those make sense, being also island-wide.

It's usually the case that over 8000 votes are required to get in. Poll-topping winners usually range from 14,000-17,500 approx.

It's only in by-elections that the turnout is usually much lower and sometimes far fewer votes are needed - Ted Vibert 3983 in 2003, Dick Shenton 7144 in 2004, Francis Le Gresley 5,798 in 2010.

In the time zone referendum of 2008, the NO vote got 17,230, and even the losing YES vote got 6,564.

Yet in this referendum Option A got only 6,581 in the first round, and option B just 6,804 - all figures taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_electoral_reform_referendum,_2013 and the links from there.

It simply wasn't a large enough result to mandate change, the public knew it was a sham and treated it accordingly.

Anonymous said...

If a truth serum existed, Senator Bailhache wouldn't be supported by even his fellow pseudo-feudalists. He is delusional in his level of arrogance, his vast overreach for unrestrained power.

It is said that a man who cares nothing for the truth despises truth tellers, but does he care for his establishment cronies? Not in the least. They are like everyone else to him - his allies are simply temporary or long-term minions.

Those who are foolish enough to believe he shares their class values are much mistaken. He places no enduring value on others and his only common purpose is lust for power and a pervasive sense of entitlement.

His mad grasp at feudalism is vulgar and all too exposed to serve anything but his downfall. He has become a parody of himself.

Anonymous said...

So 21 members supported the wishes of 6,581 of the public who wanted option 'A' and 28 supported the tens of thousands who thought it a waste of time as none of the options were suitable.

However, the MSM sing Bailhache's tune, to appease a few thousand voters and ignore the majority, I guess that sums up Jersey.

If only Jersey had Richard Digard from the GP, I bet he would have been highlighting the problems many many months ago and would now be praising the 28.

Anyway, give it a few weeks, Bailhache would have forgotten there was ever a vote and probably won't be sure if ever attended :-)

Anonymous said...

To anon. at 8:10p.m yesterday-
Well said. I particularly like the following description;

He places no enduring value on others and his only common purpose is lust for power and a pervasive sense of entitlement.

His mad grasp at feudalism is vulgar and all too exposed to serve anything but his downfall. He has become a parody of himself.

Cheryl Emmanuel said...

I hate to say it but I kind of agree with PB - what on earth was the point of having a Referendum if they ignore us. I did not vot for option B but even so!

Anonymous said...

CE - You missed the point, why should they pass something that so many did not want! PB would have been very happy to accept a mandate on only 6.5k of the population, that could never be deemed to be fair.

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For good read on this, go to Tony's Musings.

Zoompad said...

Thank God! I think people are really waking up, and finally realising what the crafty so and sos have been up to.

Anonymous said...

Cheryl, it was a test of public opinion to guide their decision.

It turned out that the public didn't like the options presented in large enough numbers to make it a valid result. The whole thing (after the initial decision for an INDEPENDENT commission) was a farce, only saved at the very end by one sensible final decision; to dismiss it all.

Anonymous said...

I hope for a knock on effect!
Finally the 'Mob' mentality is at an end and all those millionaires that were allowed to buy their way into our Island during the 70's to serve our tourist industry by way of developing certain coastal spots - Who unfortunately now are the tyrants, treating our local residents like peasants in converted rented accommodation!
These land owners are not locals, yet they believe that they are above our laws, because of their ill-gotten gains.
We have the laws to protect us, but how can we enforce them in public?
These are the ones who are doing as they please! keeping the rents high and not giving the 'Locals' the respect we deserve, by not respecting our rights or our boundaries.

Anonymous said...

It's not a recession, it's a robbery!

Anonymous said...

I am surprised that you of all people support the fact that people who took part and voted in an Island referendum have been ignored by this Government. We are talking of thousands of people and it does make me wonder what your position really is on democracy because what happend on Tuesday is headlines yet you defend the people who did this criminal act. Strange.

rico sorda said...

"I am surprised that you of all people support the fact that people who took part and voted in an Island referendum have been ignored by this Government. We are talking of thousands of people and it does make me wonder what your position really is on democracy because what happend on Tuesday is headlines yet you defend the people who did this criminal act. Strange."

My position is simple and to the point. I hate being fed Sh*t by my government.

Yesterday they saved themselves

rs


Sam Mézec said...

Anonymous at July 18, 2013 at 2:53 PM

You said "I am surprised that you of all people support the fact that people who took part and voted in an Island referendum have been ignored by this Government"

This as a matter of simple arithmetic is not true.

16,779 people voted. 8,190 voted against this reform package.

The States arguably actually voted how the public did too.

Ian Evans said...

HERE is another Jersey whitewash on the cards!

Global Citizen said...

" Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am surprised that you of all people support the fact that people who took part and voted in an Island referendum have been ignored by this Government. We are talking of thousands of people and it does make me wonder what your position really is on democracy because what happend on Tuesday is headlines yet you defend the people who did this criminal act. Strange."




Yet despite your clear concern for the concept of democracy being upheld, it doesn't bother you that the original Electoral Commission, decided democractically by the States prior to Bailhache's election to be completely independant of political interference, was purposely overturned by Bailhache and reconfigured with him at the helm and the Commission politicised?

There is a strong argument that more people would have voted in the referendum were it not for Bailhache's meddling with the format of the Commission.

One only need look at online discussions from the time to see islanders stating an intended refusal to vote because they did not want to legitimise what they viewed as a "hijacking" of the referendum by Bailhache.

Anonymous said...

You are well and truly in a minority if you think the Government ignoring a public referendum result is acceptable and it makes no difference whether it was A, B or C.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

A very familiar tale of JERSEY JUSTICE

Anonymous said...

"You are well and truly in a minority if you think the Government ignoring a public referendum result is acceptable and it makes no difference whether it was A, B or C. "

LAUGH, O HOW I LAUGHED, at the sheer ignorance.

I think the 28 states members who voted against it, saved Jersey from the eight (yes only eight) thousand who were happy to have an even more unfair government than the current system.

Those 28 members have the majority of the public on their side.

Tazzaka said...

"You are well and truly in a minority if you think the Government ignoring a public referendum result is acceptable and it makes no difference whether it was A, B or C."

That's an amusing comment.

The overwhelming majority of the public didn't vote, which places the voters "truly in the minority".

With the referendum lacking a "none of the above" option its reasonable to assume some of that silent majority failed to vote because they considered the referendum illegitimate.

There is a possibililty those non-voters outnumbered the total numbers who voted for each of the provided options, yet bacause the referendum lacked a "none of the above" we'll never know a figure for that possibililty.

Maybe if we have an independant referendum, as was originally intended until Bailhache began meddling, any increase in participation will act as a rough guide as to the number of abstainers from this one.

Anonymous said...

It's less a matter of ignoring the votes of a tiny power-grabbing majority who did vote for Option B than the pronounced distrust and betrayal expressed by many who were ambivalent about the entire choice because the format was hijacked by Phil Bailhache. This was a naked attempt at gerrymandering for the future disenfranchisement of an already marginalised urban center, pure and simple. Too few appeared to have trusted the process of creating those limited choices in the first place. A government which ignores that is less trustworthy than one who permits a vote for less democratic representation only on the excuse of the electorate "having spoken."

Anonymous said...

The Rag's take on it for their sheeple readers is : The 28 States members who voted against P Bailhache's (hijack), are a disgrace....

When realistically those 21 turkeys voted in desperation to keep their jobs!?

Ian Evans said...

British Corruption....EXPLAINED

TROJAN HORSE said...

Deputy power is a disgrace,makes you want to be sick hearing him suck up to bailhache and co just wondering what he hopes to get out of it.

Anonymous said...

The JEP is referred to by those in the know as "The Filthy Rag". Perhaps because it has been used to wipe gleaming clean all the unspeakable filth that important people have soiled themselves with for decades.

What should BBC Jersey be renamed as ?
To help with this it is worth listening to the last good programme they put out:

http://thejerseyway.blogspot.com/2012/11/bbc-radio-jersey-interviews-blogers.html

For Jersey this was "cutting edge" stuff but one commenter on this TJW story was
"I listened to the whole show and thought it was desperate in places. The BBC have given this view point an airing but that's the last we will hear of it from them."
BBC Jersey has indeed reverted to non-reporting, and sidelining unauthorised information and opinion in this little crypro-feudalist enclave.

The bloggers, the men off the street, did really well as live radio must have been way out of their normal experience and comfort zone.
For me the highlight of the show was the (third) Interview of BBC Radio Jersey's Boss Jon Gripton. The "men off the street" made him look like a frightened Youth Training Scheme student.

Gripton's pained assertion that they had used Ex Police Chief Power's affidavit "in their journalism" was beyond laughable.
Along with his ridiculous and platitudinous claim that he "would not reveal his sources" when his "sources" openly and repeatedly say that he has the affidavit because they GAVE IT TO HIM ! Journalism on a plate - The man is not fit for purpose and must resign.

Rico Sorda had previously said: "Even the media shouldn't be afraid of scrutiny though, you know, you know you know get all defensive and that's because you know you've had Graham Powers 62,000 word statement for a year and a half or whatever, a year and we haven't seen anything of that maybe John Mr Gripton will explain that later. ..."

Mr Gripton did everything but explain. He stuttered and he stammered. He can't even cover up in professionally plausible manner. No wonder he has never risked a repeat, but what I don't understand is how he is still in post.

Jon Gripton is clearly not a journalist or fit to manage journalists. IMO he should be sacked so he can find his natural vocation as a mushroom farmer. He has been keeping us in the dark and feeding us with bullsh*t for years.
The fact that he has not been sacked suggests that is really what he is paid for. Shame on the BBC !

Anonymous said...

To be a journalist one must have some ability to understand multiple view points, and an interest in challenging conventional thinking in pursuit of a more accurate story.

Mr Gripton does not demonstrate those necessary truth-seeking character traits we should expect of our mainstream or independent journalists. Instead of intellectual curiosity and the drive to seek greater clarification, Mr Gripton is quite obviously ridden with fear of accountability for himself and for authority in general. He reveals himself as highly defensive or hostile whenever placed in a position to respond to documented evidence he has ignored.

His discomfort with holding Jersey's government to account is in disturbing conflict with primary western journalistic ethics. His palpable loathing of being questioned about that bias, when evidence is presented - as in the case of the Graham Power Affidavit, is something to behold. The evidence and his own demeanor betray him as dishonest.

When a journalist wishes to present a personal slant through a defined editorial/opinion format, that is fine and well accepted. However, to do that professionally does require more than stubborn blindness to that overwhelming factual documentation placed in his possession, which renders his slant inaccurate and untenable

What is particularly unacceptable in journalistic ethics is for him to run a publicly funded BBC outlet as a government-compliant expression of defensiveness against proper journalistic inquiry. And that, I'm afraid, is how he appears to run things.

He is, of course, entitled to express his own personal opinions outside of the BBC, as he does on his Twitter account, but he should understand how ironic his rude and hostile comments are about those State Members who do pose the same challenging questions BBC should be asking.

He does not defend journalism. he defends anti-journalism. That is why I believe he will be part of a now unavoidable scandal for both BBC and Jersey media in general. Does Mr Gripton fail to understand he is dooming himself, his staff, and the BBC more generally, to a legacy of scandal and discredit?

Elle



voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

A snapshot of Jersey Administration and JUSTICE

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

An updated, more in-depth, look at the alleged corruption in Jersey's LEGAL/JUSTICE SYSTEM.

Ian Evans said...

More shame heaped on Jersey by our political NUMB-SKULLS

Ian Evans said...

How do you like YOUR ISLAND FRAUD?

Anonymous said...

Where can one get a recording of the lost vote on the referendum? in the states? I am delighted B lost! back to the drawing board with no PBailhahce, horray!

Anonymous said...

Referendum debate is here, beginning on p11

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyHansard/2013/2013.07.16%20States%20-%20Edited%20Transcript.pdf

The first few pages are interesting too, dealing with the appointment of Sally Bradley, now a moot point. You get the impression that Gorst actually does want to play this with a straight bat, and he even asks his colleagues to provide unanimous approval. Such a shame she suffered a stroke.

Ian Evans said...

It's almost upon us, the "HOT '100' HAW HAW HAWORTH SUMMERTIME TROLLING EXTRAVAGANZA".

Anyone wishing to donate a few extremely vile comments that Jon Sharrock Haworth has left you, please forward them on to me, you have my Email addy :)

Ian Evans said...

Good gravy! More SECRET COURT HEARINGS

Ian Evans said...

Same three mainland QC's....but very different JUSTICE

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Ian Le Marquand PLAYED OFF

Ian Evans said...

AND SO IT BEGINS....THE BRITISH POLICE STATE