Sunday, December 15, 2013

PAUL CARTER - MANAGING DIRECTOR OF GUITON PUBLISHING - REPLIES TO MY POSTING

PAUL CARTER - MANAGING DIRECTOR OF GUITON PUBLISHING

"They do this because, despite a myriad of alternatives and competitor media outlets, the JEP represents excellent value for money and has a deeper penetration of Jersey than TV and Radio combined, it is trusted, it is respected and it is proven."




"PAUL CARTER.MANAGING DIRECTOR OF  GUITON PUBLISHING REPLIES TO MY LAST BLOG POSTING - "THE JERSEY EVENING POST - IS THE WRITING ON THE WALL????"



"BELOW IS A REDACTED VERSION OF THE LETTER SENT BY PAUL CARTER"




Let us cut straight to the chase here. I thought long and hard about publishing his not for 'publication' reply to me.  The fact that he sent his reply to my place of work is not satisfactory. In fact, I take that it  as a form of intimidation. Should I be surprised that I get a response from the JEP when I mention the possibility of them selling below 13,000 copies and be published only 4 days a week? I mean, lets not talk about their Child Abuse Cover -UP of "Operation Rectangle" and the denigration of SIO, Lenny Harper, the zero investigative journalism, never delivering any ground breaking stories that are of any benefit to the people of Jersey, running Philip Bailhache's election campaign by sticking him on the front page during the run up to election and calling SIO, Mick Gradwell a whistleblower for helping Daily Mail Journalist, David Rose trash the Jersey Child Abuse Investigation.   The list could go on and on. 



What exactly did I say in my last posting that really ruffled the feathers of Mr Carter?



Well this is what I said in my last posting.



"THE JERSEY EVENING POST"



"A DIFFICULT ROAD AHEAD"



"IT MUST CHANGE - BUT CAN IT?"



There can be no doubt that the Jersey Evening Post - Jersey's only newspaper- is facing a very difficult future.  I was talking to the Editor designate, Andy Sibcy, this week and we touched on this subject.  I told him that it was an obvious fact that the "JEP"  was in trouble. The sales are dropping, advertisers are moving elsewhere, no investigative journalists, repeating what they are told and only a very few believing what is written in it. We have new magazines coming out now who are in competition with the JEP for advertising. Estate Agents are bringing out their own glossy pamphlets and Jersey Insight are in a league of there own. Times are changing and they are changing fast. The printed news is facing a battle that is intensifying by the month. 


Andy Sibcy will taking the helm with the perfect storm brewing on the horizon. Can he make a difference?  

The new generation are the computer generation. They go online for their news. Sales would suggest that they no longer view the JEP as an important or necessary news source. Maybe, and I mean just maybe, could the JEP under new leadership start properly representing the people of Jersey. Not reporting the news but investigating the news. This obviously comes with it's own problems as it is subsidised through advertising by our own government. Can the new Editor be his own man? In Jersey I very much doubt it. I look forward to being proved wrong. 


Times are changing and they are changing fast.


Are we about to see sales fall below 13,000 a day and the paper being reduced to 4 days a week. 


They have some big decisions to make.


Is the writing now on the wall for the JEP?




HERE IS THE REPLY FROM PAUL CARTER. 



Jersey Evening Post


PRIVATE AND PERSONAL - ADDRESSEE ONLY


11 December, 2013


Rico,

I understand that you are interested in investigative journalism and, while it is good to have a productive hobby, I do think that you should at least make a small effort to achieve some sort of balance for your readers and not just the blind pursuit of your own agenda, leading you to present disinformation as fact.

You claim as an "obvious fact" that the JEP is in trouble, you claim a conversation with Editor designate Mr Sibcy but then only offer what you said to him, not his response or reaction?

From this you deduce that the JEP is no longer relevant as audience go online for their news (but no reference to who will be supplying this?) and that any changes will be difficult due to the JEP being subsidised with government advertising.

The fact is that the JEP is a privately owned business with no ties to Jersey Government and, unlike other small democratic jurisdictions, has no financial incentives in place from the government to ensure it's survival. The SOJ do place advertising within the newspaper and online platforms provided by the JEP but on a contracted basis and at the same rates and terms and conditions as any commercial advertiser.  They do this because, despite a myriad of alternatives and competitor media outlets, the JEP represents excellent value for money and has a deeper penetration of Jersey than TV and Radio combined, it is trusted, it is respected and it is proven. As an aside, the impact of SOJ revenues to the JEP equate to less than **** of annual group turnover, something to contemplate when constructing conspiracy theories about alleged "State Media".

The JEP's audited copy sales figures (by an independent industry authority) are widely available and a quick reference to Google would have provided you with the undeniable fact that the average daily sale is, according to the most recent independently audited trading period, 17,076 copies per day, of which 97.6% are paid for and the remainder are free/courtesy or promotional copies. It would also show that the decline, year on year, was -***%. Perhaps you might compare this with similar sized populations in the UK to put it in context?

The second half-year period is still under audit but, last week, for instance, the JEP's bestselling day was **,**** copies and the second bestselling day was **,*** copies. It is highly likely that the rate of decline we saw in the first half of the year will regrettably be repeated in the second half of the year but this is still a long way from your proclaimed 13,000 copies per day, or four days per week publishing.

The new generation, that you appear so concerned might never grow up with the JEP as their media choice, already enjoy our platforms online and we already serve ***,*** unique users across our various online offerings with over 1.5m page views per month. Our social media platforms are supported by **,*** registered followers  (growing daily) and these aren't zombie sites that just harvest numbers for the sake of it, they are constantly updated and enjoy interaction and two-way dialogue with our membership.

Compare these numbers with Channel Online, BBC Jersey, JT Insight etc and then reconsider your statement.

The writing isn't on the wall for the JEP, It's in our newsprint, devoured by over 60% of adults daily (independently audited research), it's on PC's, Tablets, and smart phones all over the island and even further afield. Our traditional business model might be changing (whose isn't?) but the reach and influence of our content has potential for growth as digital develops. 

You mention in your blog that you look forward to being proved wrong about your assumptions regarding the JEP and considering the litany of half-truths, errors and misinformation in your posting I think it is safe to say that this is the job done.

This letter is not for publication or distribution but I urge you to do your own research and then address the misinformation in your posting, like any self-respecting investigative journalist, part time or otherwise, would do.

Please do not misinterpret this letter as the beginning of an exchange; please view this as the conclusion. I have no intention of debating or discussing this business with you, unless of course you continue to wilfully misrepresent your own personal assumptions about the JEP as a matter of fact.

Yours sincerely 

Paul Carter

Managing Director, Guiton Publishing Ltd, Jersey Evening Post Ltd 



Here is my reply Mr Carter.



First up, Mr Sorda would have been a nice way of addressing me.  Never forget ones manners even if a little upset. 

 I had an off the record chat with JEP Editor, Andy Sibcy. I thought it was only right and polite not to divulge what he said to me. At no time did I say to him that our conversation would be used in a blog posting. For this reason and this reason alone I never mentioned his replies.  If you had phoned or spoken with Mr Sibcy before writing your letter you would have realised this to be the case.  The economic climate in Jersey is changing very quickly. The competition for advertising and the amount people are spending on advertising is very competitive and in some cases dwindling. 

 I can't speak for everyone, but the people I speak to are looking for proper news - not some regurgitated no questions asked  press release delivered on a daily basis. You have offered up a wealth of stats and figures but the one stat that would have stopped me in my tracks would have been the stat for big breaking stories. Big breaking stories achieved through investigative journalism. Yet we have nothing. You couldn't even be bothered to check why I didn't mention what Andy Sibcy had said to me. 

You say "As an aside, the impact of SOJ revenues to the JEP equate to less than 1.3% of annual group turnover, something to contemplate when constructing conspiracy theories about alleged "State Media"."

Well let me tell you this Mr Carter;  the Jersey Evening Post has failed. It has failed the people of jersey.

 I have published more hard documented evidence in two years than the JEP has produced in the last two decades.  The Jersey Blogs have investigated, researched and published more evidence than the JEP has probably ever produced.  It is the attitude in this letter that has me worried as to the future of the Jersey Evening Post. I have never been contacted by anyone from the Jersey Evening Post/Guiton Group concerning the multitude of hard evidenced and leaked documents that have appeared on my blog which one would expect from any self respecting journalist. The one time I do get contacted by anyone from the Guiton Group is to complain of the statistics of their dwindling readership. 

I'm not sure if Mr Carter is a journalist but I wish he had not misquoted me. I clearly asked the question "Are we about to see sales fall below 13,000 a day and the paper being reduced to 4 days a week." 

Mr Carter stated "It is highly likely that the rate of decline we saw in the first half of the year will regrettably be repeated in the second half of the year but this is still a long way from your proclaimed 13,000 copies per day, or four days per week publishing."  As you can clearly see I didn't proclaim anything I simply asked the question.


The reason for the redaction above is that some of the figures mentioned above are not in the public domain and will remain so. The tone of the letter is there for all to see. like I said, I don't appreciate a letter being sent to my place of work when the Jersey Evening Post have my email address. I will leave it to the readers of my blog to come to their own conclusions. 

The only reasons I'm publishing this letter as it is of great public interest. Remember we only have one newspaper in Jersey. I'm not sure that 60% of the adult population "devour" what the JEP dish up but who am I to argue that point.


Rico Sorda


Part Time Investigative Journalist


Links to the blogs that the passed the Jersey Evening Post investigative journalist team.













49 comments:

Póló said...

That was a real sneaky one, replying to a public blog with a private letter.

Trying to nobble you, if you ask me.

You should be chuffed.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for publishing the letter Rico which was clearly sent to intimidate you but clearly didn't work. It is an insight into the bullying tactics used by the Guiton group and JEP.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Did you expect anything LESS?

Anonymous said...

"devoured by over 60% of adults daily"!? That bloke is having a giraffe!

Sam Mézec said...

At least you got a reply from them.

I can't even get Jon Gripton from the BBC to acknowledge my letters registering complaints!

Thankfully the UK BBC are investigating. But more on that story as it develops...

Anonymous said...

"it is trusted, it is respected and it is proven." Paul Carter needs to wake up and read the blogs or even look at local surveys which say 60% of people don't trust the MSM in Jersey. I'm sure the fact that 60% of islanders read the JEP and 60% of islanders don't trust the MSM is coincidental.

Anonymous said...

I think most of the people who read the JEP do it for road works,closures,classified,weather,etc.Most 'news' stories are either painfully trivial,as if to portray that nothing is going on in this quaint little island or completely politically motivated and can be ignored.I'm sure most 'news' comes from the States themselves.This can be seen also on the TV.if you watch Channel Report on itv at 6pm then switch to bbc1 and watch the bbc news for the channel islands at 6.30,the news stories are exactly the same-everyday of the week.
As Rico quite rightly points out the mainstream investigative journalism is none existent.
As a result no one in government is ever accountable.

Anonymous said...

I have purchased just 2 Jersey Evening posts two/three years since they upset me with one of their HdlG headlines. In not reading the paper I am missing out on loads of detailed news and personal stories, many of which are not covered by other local media. Radio 103 as a news source is minimal. CTV is hardly much better. BBC radio Jersey is the best of the bunch. Yes they annoy me but they are my only source of local news. Were someone unconnected to the JEP,to start up an online channel island news service I would subscribe. The JEP has got an obvious advantage. What other part of our media can berecycled....used to wrap chips. Ex HdlG

rico sorda said...

It would be interesting to know how many hits Thisisjersey receives a day. Seeing as this is free it would be interesting how many of the 1.5m monthly hits are getting it for free. I use it daily.

rs

Anonymous said...

unless of course you continue to wilfully misrepresent your own personal assumptions about the JEP as a matter of fact.
Rico, the above is nothing but a threat. Well done for letting us see it in its redacted form.

Jill Gracia said...

Ruffled feathers and 'the truth hurts' spring to mind here.

This excuse for a paper offers the populace nothing in the way of real 'headlining' news or editorial comment other than pro-establishment nonsense.

Who the hell is going to want to keep buying a paper full of adverts (which I personally do not take any notice of) or pictures of nativity plays or other such trivia.

Wake up and smell the coffee Mr Carter, and also please be more polite when responding to Mr Sorda.

Anonymous said...

You will face criticism for posting a submission listed as Not-For-Publication, as he has in mind to not only intimidate you, but set you up for inane troll feeding. Well done though, well done. It was the right choice in the public interest. It illustrates the larger story within the story of the state media and their approach to you.

His response to you was, of course, intentionally demeaning, but I think it honestly points to their underestimation of the reasons for the respect you have rightfully earned from your readers, demonstrating Mr Carter's transparent underestimation of your ability to slice right on through their state spin. Perhaps he reads your blog but does not devour it properly?

The fact that people's real views about the Jersey establishment press in general are shown in that poll to be appallingly low, is simply fair knowledge in the public domain. Your blog's popularity probably exceeds the trend in most countries, and online news is the primary information source for the millennium generation. That is especially true in relation to coverage of political and public interest controversies.

They are nearing a deserved dead end, attempting to maintain their exclusive self-serving propaganda machine in the guise of a respected source of "news." You hasten that end with every post, working diligently to cover evidenced and gravely important stories they wouldn't touch. It goes to show they are feeling the painful intrusion of real investigative journalism, but not quite with their eyes wide open yet.

They need to devour more facts about who is devouring what and why, next time they attempt to silence you.

Anonymous said...



Two interesting points here.

1) “ The fact is that the JEP is a privately owned business with no ties to Jersey Government “

That is not actually the whole truth is it Mr Carter ?
You do have links to a Government through your boss. The person named below is an ex Senator of the States of Jersey who has been invited by the States of Jersey to sit on a States quango and is extremely well remunerated.

John Averty: Deputy Chairmen JFSC.

John is the Chairman and Chief Executive of the Guiton Group Ltd. The group publishes daily and weekly newspapers in the Channel Islands. It also has divisions with technology, and retail/wholesale, interests

From 1969 to 1984 John served as a Member of the States of Jersey, initially as a Deputy and latterly on the Senatorial benches.

He is currently a non-executive Director of a Jersey-registered private bank.

http://www.jerseyfsc.org/the_commission/about_us/board_of_commissioners/commissioners/johnaverty.asp

Mr Carter also announces

2) “Unlike other small democratic jurisdictions, has no financial incentives in place from the government to ensure it's survival.”

While he may argue that commercial rates are given, and they do not receive life saving subsidies how much are they actually paid ?

Notice the next time Jersey Finance takes out a double page full colour advert, the only message being they are good for Jersey, or Jersey Digital or any of the others spending your tax pound.

Other States departments place large adverts like new pipe to be installed which is reasonable, and for a multitude of obscure not reasonable reasons.

The fact is, that any person with half a brain can see that as Jersey insight has shrunk the JEP adverts section and its revenue, the States of Jersey and its quango’s are an essential advertising stream and becoming more so.

If that is not an incentive worth protecting then tell me what is ?

Boatyboy.

rico sorda said...

I wanted Mr Carter to have his reply whilst not intimidating me. I thought it important that he have his say "at the heart of island life" and all that. I redacted the sensitive information that I presume not to be in the public arena. I felt like he was the one that ran off with the ball because he couldn't take the penalty. Discussion is good.

He might have been surprised if he had asked Mr Sibcy about our conversation.

rs

Anonymous said...

The danger is that other people will be put off sending you letters/emails in confidence for fear of them being published.

Anonymous said...

If the JEP is doing so well, why does Mr Cater feels necessary to contact you? Most older people buying the paper to see the section of births and deaths as the JEP is the only way to find this information. I used to buy it daily but stopped after HDLG cover up.

Anonymous said...

''I understand that you are interested in investigative journalism and, while it is good to have a productive hobby, I do think that you should at least make a small effort to achieve some sort of balance for your readers and not just the blind pursuit of your own agenda, leading you to present disinformation as fact'' Hobby?
Mr. Carters first paragraph reflects badly on no one but himself.


''the JEP represents excellent value for money and has a deeper penetration of Jersey than TV and Radio combined, it is trusted, it is respected and it is proven''

Mr Sordas blog is respected proven and trusted with the added benefit of journalistic news and evidence.

Tom Gruchy said...

On tomgrucy.blogspot.com and sstagjsy.blogspot.com we try to research and publish serious and opiginal information and comments on a wide range of issues. We deal with politics and much much more offering anybody with a view a platform to express it.
Very few take up that offer and our readership is small.
If there are about a dozen blogs centred on Jersey then the potential to offer information to a very large number of people with different opinions is great. Yet, the impact, so far as it can be measured, is small.
Now I don't mind you making all sorts of claims about the powers and influences of your blog or anybody else's postings - but the reality is that the establishment view, as presented through the JEP and the other media outlets is dominant.
We can individually prick the balloon that is the official media but unless we work much closer together and with greater coordination 99% of the Jersey population will not even be aware of our existence.

I am sorry to say that the whole Jersey scene - from politics to the arts and sport - is captured by the "prima donnas" who will always promote themselves rather than working with others for a common goal.
So we have choices. With the New Year approaching I would invite Jersey based bloggers, along with their political and socially motivated followers, to concentrate from 1st January on the autumn electoral battles ahead - and plan to induce REFORM based upon knowledge - through campaigning in a co-ordinated way to the highest standards.

Anonymous said...

I hear you are giving up blogging next year fantastic news. We can now shoot bugger and torment children in a little more peace and quiet.

Anonymous said...

Does Bbc jersey still advertise the jep 5 days a week with Carl Walker?

Anonymous said...

I would like to examine some of Mr Carter’s claims and comments. The following analysis may be rather boring to some readers, but I think it’s important that the JEP is held to account.

First, Mr Carter suggests that you compare the decline in sales of the JEP with UK regional newspapers – clearly implying that the JEP is performing better than its mainland counterparts. In this, he is correct. Sales of the JEP have not fallen as hard as some of the UK regional newspapers.

So what? By my calculations, the JEP has lost 22% of its paper sales since December 2006, and the decline is continuing. During the first half of this year, sales fell by 3.1%, and Mr Carter apparently confirms that a similar decline is expected when figures for the second half of the year are released. No business can survive that sort of decline in its core product, unchecked – and bear in mind that the 22% fall occurred during a period when the island’s population increased by more than 7%.

It’s a pity Mr Carter didn’t explain what the Guiton Group’s strategy is to staunch the decline, because if the current rate continues, your figure of 13,000 daily sales will be achieved during the second half of 2017 – i.e. in under 4 years.
It’s also a pity that Mr Carter suggested comparing the decline in JEP sales with its Guernsey counterpart. During the five year period 2008-2012 for which I have figures, sales of the Guernsey Press fell by 6.3% while those of the JEP fell by 13.7%. In 2012, the Guernsey Press sold an average of 14,904 copies with a population of 63,085 – 23.6% sales coverage; the JEP sold 17,766 copies with a population of 99,000 (17.9% coverage).

Rather than crowing about how the JEP is doing less badly than the Scouse Echo, perhaps he ought to be asking why it is so comprehensively outperformed by the Donkey Times.

Second, Mr Carter brags about how many hits the JEP website achieves, how many likes it has on Facebook, yadda yadda yadda. Well, big deal. The figures he quotes are unverified and therefore meaningless. Circulation of paper copies sold is audited by an independent body and therefore reliable. Web hits are not. Perhaps he would like to provide details of sales of online advertising compared with sale of ad space in the JEP to demonstrate just how well they are monetarising their web strategy?

Third, Mr Carter claims that the JEP is ‘devoured’ by more than 60% of adults daily. That must be news to those responsible for his website content, because thisisjersey claims that “The daily adult readership of the JEP (all adults aged 15 years and over) is 51,694 – representing around 71% of the entire adult population of the Island.”

It gets worse – the website goes on to claim that “A single advertisement placed in the JEP and online at thisisjersey.com would reach an incredible 62,814 adults, equivalent to 86% of the Island’s adults." Incredible indeed, since 62,814 adults would equate to around 75% of the adult population based on the latest census.

And he was accusing you of “half-truths, errors and misinformation”!

Anonymous said...

Jersey Evening Post - Central organ of the Jersey Bourgeoisie. aka "Pravda"

Anonymous said...

Sorry to hear you will not be blogging next year.

You will be missed.

Anonymous said...

'' As an aside, the impact of SOJ revenues to the JEP equate to less than **** of annual group turnover, something to contemplate when constructing conspiracy theories about alleged "State Media"''

It would be interest to know the impact of the SOJ revenue to the JEP Limited.

The Jersey Evening Post is part of Guiton Publishing, which also owns the long-established Guernsey Press newspaper and produces a variety of other supplements, magazines, special publications and websites, including Business Brief.

Guiton Publishing is wholly owned by the Claverley Company, a privately owned, UK-based group with interests in publishing, printing and computer systems. Claverley’s Midland News Association publishes the Express and Star, Britain’s biggest-selling regional daily newspaper, as well as the Shropshire Star and a range of weekly titles

rico sorda said...

I have made a decision that next year I will stop blogging. I started with the Child Abuse Cover-up and that is where I will finish. Who knows when that will be next year but I want to focus fully on the Committee of Enquiry. I started this blog in April 2010. It has taken a lot of time and effort.

So, not gone just yet. But sometime soon I hope.

rs

Anonymous said...


The:
Claverley Group Limited (Midland News Association)
51-53 Queen Street
Wolverhampton
United Kingdom
WV1 1ES

Is owned by two brothers, Douglas and Alan Graham.

Quote:
“The Express & Star was founded in Wolverhampton in the 1880s by the Scottish-American millionaire Andrew Carnegie and a group of radical Liberal Party members, including Thomas Graham.
Carnegie's aim was to campaign, through a string of regional daily newspapers, for the creation of a British Republic.
His dream was to sack the monarchy, scrap the House of Lords and destroy every vestige of privilege in the land.
By 1902 Carnegie had abandoned his mission and the newspaper has been owned by the Graham family ever since.”
Source URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_News_Association

Andrew Carnegie (Triumphant Democracy)

URL: https://archive.org/stream/triumphantdemocrs00carn#page/n5/mode/2up

Anonymous said...

Now after all the long hard work and time you have put in to provide the people of Jersey and outsiders evidenced and researched information about Jersey's history of and still ongoing abuse of vulnerable people and children, you want to give up your blog!

Now with your current blog showing up the bullying methods of the Jersey's only public newspaper to people who are not connected or have the necessary financial back up, you want to give up your blog?

Are you serious??? Want to give up???

You hit a big sore nerve of the only public newspaper of Jersey according to the tone and content, in my humble opinion, by the unprofessional, intimidating and arrogant letter of Mr Carter, Managing Director of the Guiton Publishing Group, otherwise he would' t have bothered to write to you personally.

It proves that the interest your blog has gained over the years has threatened their monopoly genuinely and by judging the increasingly criticising and more informed comments on the JEP on-line version, the people have turned and are increasingly turning against the "fluffy",non-informative and non-relevant reports, thanks to the internet and all your bloggers.

You are absolutely right that the JEP doesn't appear to break any relevant news but regurgitates news which have already been published in the national media or interested people have knew about it by their own research on the internet already.
However to be fair, the Guernsey Evening Post has recently shown that they are bit more balanced in publishing critical reports and comments.

It is fully understandable that you have your own private life and after investing all this hard work and time to reconsider your options but now when the Jersey media is waking up slowly to the fact that the Jersey people are not that dormant, stupid and uninterested how they are getting blinded and manipulated, you and the other excellent bloggers should use the moment and heat up the movement rather than giving up, in my opinion!


Anonymous said...

Do I detect another avenue opening up for you Rico?

"I have made a decision that next year I will stop blogging"

The Beano is not the Rag

Anonymous said...

letter to editor ep tonight from another bastion of the "old guard" Reg Jeune defending the bailiffs role,last week Horsfall on tv now Jeune in the "rag".
Have these guys nor read Clothier or Carswell reports that both SUPPORTED the ending of the dual role.
Bailanche must be desperate to keep dragging this pair out,even the "older" readers have sussed him out!

Anonymous said...

The Guiton guy has just topped and tailed a promotional presentation. It is full of half-truths and misinformation. Whoops! Isn't that what he just accused you of?

Rob Kent said...

@Anonymous, "Second, Mr Carter brags about how many hits the JEP website achieves,"

The JEP web site provides a brief summary of the print articles. It is hardly worth calling it news, since it is just a taster for the print edition.

If they took online seriously, they would put the full articles on their web site, like The Guardian does, for example.

Anonymous said...

RICO SORDA - BLOCKED ON GOV.JE - FINDS THE ANSWERS.

Rico.
Your posting in November titled as above.

Hope you found the answers you were pleased with.
And not the answers that are making you decide to give up blogging....

For example, threats and/or bribes from The Government?!

Sam Mézec said...

It's amazing just how desperate the JEP is.

In today's editorial they say about next years election "it is also a fair bet that the worst elements of the blogging community will make it the dirtiest and most unpleasant elections in memory".

There is not one shred of evidence to suggest this would be the case.

I was living in London at the time of the last elections and so had to arrange a postal vote. I had to rely on online resources to find out about candidates and their policies. The blogs were by far the most useful thing I had. They went out of their way to film questions at hustings and did interviews with the various candidates.

The JEP were useless. They were practically reporting what Philip Bailhache had for breakfast every morning, rather than reporting what other candidates had said or done. It was so overtly biased.

You just couldn't make up this sort of hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

A threat, a bribe....

Or a promise to stand for the next elections?

Anonymous said...

'I was living in London at the time of the last elections..I had to rely on online resources to find out about candidates and their policies'

'The JEP were useless'

So, in addition to your very own selective view of their online content, by your own admission, you failed to see the hard copies of the JEP which published accounts of every hustings, provided detailed profiles of each of the candidates, irrespective of their political hue, and generally spent the month in the run up to the elections providing extensive and unbiased coverage ?

No, your judgement is that based on your own view of their free online content, you thought they were useless.

I WAS here at the time of the last elections, so maybe my judgement is based upon a wider range of evidence than you were party to. But they seemed to do pretty well to me.

Sam, the fact you have to consistently, and so overtly, attempt to distort and twist the truth to your own political bias on every available forum merely demonstrates that even you must realise the true paucity of the left's position over here.

But then I'm sure that the supporters of the despised 'establishment' hope that you keep demonstrating this in such an overt manner in the run up to the next election.

Anonymous said...

"it is also a fair bet that the worst elements of the blogging community will make it the dirtiest and most unpleasant elections in memory" Is this a comment from the JEP? If so it seems a rather dirty and unpleasant thing for them to say. It's an odds on bet that they will undermine the democratic principles of the election by continuing to abuse their position as the island's only newspaper. They will promote their favoured candidates, attack the others, and now as a new strategy begin a concerted attack on any non-PC blogs.

Rob Kent said...

@Sam Mezec, "You just couldn't make up this..."

Just an observation, but having followed the Jersey blogs for the last few years, I have noticed that people who use the phrase "you couldn't make this up" and its variants, typically end up in a head-on confrontation with the Jersey Mafia/Establishment and end up either in jail, bankrupt, or having their reputations ruined by the local media.

This might just be an unfortunate coincidence but I think you should find another phrase to express experential incredulity. Maybe just use: WTF???!!!

It would be sad if somebody just launching his career as an establishment-baiter ended up being mangled by the local apparatus before he had a chance to do anything practical that would provoke their ire.

Happy Christmas and all that...

Anonymous said...

Interesting that Rob Kent sees being an establishment baiter as a 'career'.

Says it all really doesn't it. What a sad indictment of someone's aims in life.

Anonymous said...

The blogs have no influence on elections, proven 2 elections already.

Rob Kent said...

@Anonymous, "Interesting that Rob Kent sees being an establishment baiter as a 'career'."

I was being sarcastic. Such is the way of Jersey politics that the establishment cannot cope with what in any other liberal jurisdiction would just be seen as free enquiry into how power operates.

The JEP and the Jersey 'powers that be' hate the blogs for different reasons. The JEP because the existence of a plurality of critical and inquiring voices exposes the sheer lameness of their own anodyne coverage of local politics. The JEP toadies to power completely, and has never been known to speak truth to it until it has been given permission to.

The powers that be hate the blogs because they cannot stop them speaking the truth. Unless, that is, they abuse the law and the justice system to silence them.

By the way, I would seek an apology from that Paul Carter person if he sent me a letter to my place of work in response to an email. What an arrogant person he must be.

Rob Kent said...

PS I don't know Sam Mezec but Jersey needs more like him.

rico sorda said...

"The blogs have no influence on elections, proven 2 elections already."

I agree.

rs

rico sorda said...

I have so little free time - this impacts on the time I have to post on my blog. Like I have said previously all the time I do have will be concentrated on the Committee of Enquiry.

I have only done 60 postings this year compared to 87 the previous year. It does get harder to find the time. That is the reason. I do love blogging and expressing my view but there comes a time when someone else needs to take up the Raines and have a go.

rs

Jill Gracia said...

Rico - I fully understand your reasons for feeling you want to slow down in the coming year and concentrate on the CoI. Child abuse was what brought a lot of us to the place we are now, and also brought a lot of people together. Your work has been sterling, but getting the CoI totally right is vital.

However, I do feel that you may find it hard to give up entirely given that it seems almost improbable that there will not be any more scandals/cover-ups that will not grab your attention.

If you do give up altogether you can stand proud - a job well done!

DenverGal said...

Rico

If only you were paid by readers for your investigative journalism, and could do this full time! You truly do have a great deal to be proud of and the effects of what you've done on this blog will be felt for a long time into the future, I'm sure. As Jill said, your work has been sterling. I hope you can find a balance that permits time for your journalistic efforts to continue, without sacrificing it all together.

Elle

Anonymous said...

Would you ever consider standing as a Deputy? In the light of recent events, the electorate have now been robbed of their representation.

You could really do a massive amount of good, exposing their lies in the chamber, in person, looking into their eyes.

rico sorda said...

Standing as a politician is of no interest to me.

rs

Anonymous said...

Rico.

It stands to reason that politicians who have truth and honesty, don't last in our local chamber.

For example local politicians,
Syvret, and now Pitmam....

You are wise to stay uninterested.

thejerseyway said...

Hi Rico.

Just a quick one. Talking to someone who says they Know, the JEP don't sell the numbers that they say. More like 12,000 daily and they need to soon get a new printer which so he says which I can't believe will cost around £20 million? so that is the end of the JEP.


TJW.