Wednesday, June 11, 2014

DEPUTY HILTON - "IT WOULD APPEAR THE PROTECTION OF ISLAND CHILDREN IS FAILING YET AGAIN"

DEPUTY HILTON






"WHAT IS GOING ON?"


"ARE WE STILL HAVING CHILD PROTECTION FAILURES"


"HAVE ANY LESSONS BEEN LEARNT SINCE THE JERSEY CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATION?"


DEPUTY HILTON ASKS THE QUESTION.

There still seems to be serious concerns with the protection of vulnerable children in Jersey. The  issue was raised by Deputy Hilton in the States of Jersey on the 3/6/2014. The answers left me horrified and I reproduce it below. Have we, as an Island, not learnt a single thing regarding the protection of  vulnerable children since 2008 and Haut De La Garenne going global?  Im sick of tired of hearing the immortal  quote of "Lessons have been learnt". 

"Lessons being learnt" is a  get out clause for the Minister answering the questions.  This is simply not good enough. Where were the concerns from the other members? We have 51 states members and only 2 other deputies had something to say. The children need a champion and I hope that Deputy Hilton keeps getting the questions in. Lessons don't get learnt in Jersey. Remember the secrecy around the sex grooming case? I hope the Jersey Media pick this up and also demand answers as it can't be left to the bloggers to carry this fight alone. 

Who will have oversight of any reports and recommendations that come from these horror stories? 

Lets be honest here. You can have the greatest policies in place but unless you smash the culture that still persists to this day then nothing will ever change. 

I really hope that the Committee of Enquiry brings a sledge hammer to bear on the Jersey Way of dealing with  abuse. If they ever mention the immortal words of "Lessons have been Learnt"  I will simply cry. 

This should be headline news as what is more important than the plight of venerable children.

Rico Sorda 

Part time Investigative Journalist





3.8.1 Deputy J.A. Hilton:
Is the Assistant Minister aware there are a number of serious child sexual abuse cases to be reviewed by the Safeguarding Board and does this fact cause him alarm, as it would appear the protection of Island children is failing yet again?
Senator P.F. Routier:  
I am aware that there are some more cases to be reviewed and, as we have not been used to having as many cases as are currently coming forward, it is of concern.  What is, I think, positive about these reviews taking place is that it is being looked at very seriously that we need to ensure that, when a case is being reviewed, some learning is made across all the services and that it is identified, if there had been some failings, that best practice is brought forward in the future.
Deputy M.R. Higgins:
As the question is about when reports are going to be published, I would like to ask when the report on the woman known as H.G. is going to be reported by this panel?  Because there seems to be cases being reviewed but no reports coming out and made public.  Can the Assistant Minister tell us when it will be ...
The Bailiff:
Sorry, Deputy, that is not related to this question.  It is not the same body at all.  Very well, Deputy Le Hérissier?
3.8.2 Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier:
The rapporteur referred to learnings.  If several cases are alive at the moment, could the rapporteur tell us what lessons have been learned?  Because surely it could be construed as a failure that cases have reached this level.  Given all the money that has been ploughed into these issues over the last few years, why were the warning signs not picked up at the appropriate management and organisational levels?
Senator P.F. Routier:
The establishment of the Safeguarding Boards for Children and Adults, which have only been established in recent times, is, I think, a real positive step forward for the States generally.  The Deputy is quite right: there has been extra investment put in after the Williamson Report to ensure that services are the best we can possibly have them.  There is, obviously with these cases coming forward, a recognition that there needs to be some improvements to services, and that will be highlighted when the reports are finalised. 
[10:30]
But I need to remind Members about this particular case that, until the family and the people who are involved are spoken to, it is very difficult; we cannot talk about it until that happens.
3.8.3 Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier:
Can I get clarification: could the rapporteur tell us - and I appreciate in a way it should be the Minister - has he been able to draw any conclusions where the failings are as opposed to just focusing on this case?
Senator P.F. Routier:
Not as yet, no. 
3.8.4 Deputy J.A. Hilton:
It would seem to me that with the X Family, the G Family and numerous other families, the States of Jersey are still failing our children badly [Approbation] and we need to address this as soon as possible.  I am very concerned that the Assistant Minister has agreed with me that there are a number of serious child sexual abuse cases coming forward; we need to establish as soon as possible exactly what is going wrong.  Is the Assistant Minister satisfied that we have the expertise available in the Island to establish when sexual abuse is occurring within families?
Senator P.F. Routier:
I can only agree with the questioner with regard to the concerns that she has.  I, too, share those concerns and want to ensure that everything is looked at in an appropriate manner.  The question with regards whether we have the correct facilities and expertise in the Island to look at these cases is something we need to look at very closely.  I think we need to ensure that with the help of the safeguarding chairperson who is doing these reviews, she is going to come forward with recommendations which we will have to act on.  I would not be able to stand here and defend a service which was not performing correctly and I would hope that if it does require extra resources they would be coming forward.

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

Agree whole-heartedly about that phrase, "Lessons learnt," when used regarding child abuse. To those who have followed this Jersey campaign closely, the lesson officials have best learnt is to pretend something has changed when it hasn't. I see no evidence they've decided it's really the right time to give up the cover-up. None at all. But your own investigative journalism has brought the problem into sharp outside focus.

Elle

Anonymous said...

Senator Routier

'' when a case is being reviewed, some learning is made across all the services and that it is identified, if there had been some failings, that best practice is brought forward in the future''

Senator Routier is not getting it. ''If? there had been some failings.

They are failing ergo perpetual quote of ''lesson will be learnt''

Anonymous said...

NO lessons have been learnt and it is business as usual in Jersey where children are being abused and it is being covered up just as it always has.

Anonymous said...

The powers that be are going to tell the committee of enquiry things have changed since hdlg. Send them this blog which proves they haven't!

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

What this posting/Hansard demonstrates is that our children are no safer today than they ever have been during Jersey's wretched treatment of them.

NO other States Members had ANY concerns of the child protection failures highlighted in Deputy Hilton's question? In light of the Haut de la Garenne atrocities/cover up?

God help us........And our children.

Your readers might also be interested in Exclusive Interview with Advocate Philip Sinel PART TWO.

Anonymous said...

Children aren't going to be any safer after this committee of enquiry either. Stuart Syvret has been refused lawyers for it and the abusers have been given lawyers.

rico sorda said...

(b) – Oral Questions

1. Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier of St. Saviour will ask the following question of the Minister for Health and Social Services –

“Could the Minister inform the Assembly of the number of Serious Case Reviews which have been initiated or completed in the last two years and how many are ongoing at present, and would she state what major changes, if any, have been made as a result of these Reviews?”

rico sorda said...

17. Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier will ask the following question of the Minister for Home Affairs –

“Can the Minister assure members and the public that all cases of alleged child abuse and child protection issues are fully investigated by the States of Jersey Police and that they liaise fully with the various child protection bodies, the Law Officers’ Department and the Judiciary?”

Anonymous said...

'Children aren't going to be any safer after this committee of enquiry either. Stuart Syvret has been refused lawyers for it and the abusers have been given lawyers.'

That is nonsense. Stuart Syvret has not been refused a lawyer. He is free to instruct his own lawyer. What he has been refused is state legal funding to pay a lawyer to consider the human rights aspects of his becoming an interested party. In the words of the ruling:

'If, and to the extent that the applicant believes the protocols may infringe his human rights, he is at liberty to seek legal advice on the same. However his application does not satisfy the requirements for exceptional circumstances within the meaning of para.2 of the Legal Representation protocol and therefore the application is dismissed'.

At least try and stick to the truth.

Anonymous said...

"I have asked Deputy Higgins to lodge this question as it is of concern to me. When my wife became a target its time to get some answers."

You really are sitting on a high horse. You invited a tax haven hater to Jersey and your wife is a Trust manager. Look out for the blog, its being written by a tax pro and there is nothing you or your wife can legally do about it.

So carry on acting like you are this king of the Net, because you are dreaming.

rico sorda said...

"You invited a tax haven hater to Jersey"

???????

RS

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Jersey Child Abuse Inquiry and the disgraced "HEALTH" DEPARTMENT.

Anonymous said...

Why no posts RS?

rico sorda said...

Dont worry I have some blogs in the pipeline. Just waiting for Hansard.

rs

rico sorda said...

I had this Anonymous comment sent to me.



"Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "DEPUTY HILTON - "IT WOULD APPEAR THE PROTECTION OF...":

Waiting for Hansard?

You must be one of the only people in the Island who bothers to look back at all the boring rubbish spoken in the States.

Look out for the slaughter of Higgins, even heard about him bouncing cheques with the Air Display. Soon bury that c*nt in the months ahead.:-) "End

As you can imagine I had to edit it.

Now, I take it that this refers to a question asked by Deputy Higgins regarding Cyber Bullying. As the Deputy referred to you Jon, and no I didn't ask him to, I'm rather intrigued as to what you mean by the slaughter of Higgins and how you intend burying him.

I just wonder sometimes. You even changed the James Pearce profile picture to Deputy Higgins after he asked that question and referred to you. I have offered to sort this out but you still want to believe that you are surrounded by fog. The sun came out along time ago. I'm just deciding when to step out.

rs

Anonymous said...

I left the comment and I am not Jon. What is it with these bloggers, is Jon the only person out there or something, your only audience? If anybody is living in fog it is you and yes Higgins will be slaughtered because he's rubbish. Wastes States time, raises pointless questions and is a coward to do all this under PP.
You support nothing but wankers Rico Sorda and each one seems to end up flat on their arse in the end because they are thick as pigshit.

Póló said...

Rico

Re your "anonymous" commenter.

God help you if you are having to put up with this sort of shite on an ongoing basis.

Denverelle has referred on Twitter to courageous Jersey bloggers and she's right.

Keep the faith.

rico sorda said...

What you need to realise is that I know it's you. 100%

The game is up.

I have just waited.

Have a nice day. Remember the sun cream if you venture out today.

rs

rico sorda said...

Anonymous,

I'm not sure when I will finish my blog. I can guarantee you one thing for sure its staying online.

My last ever posts, whenever that time arrives, will be on you.

Remember when I did blog abuse 2 - well I will be explaining why I did it. In fact finishing it.

Get the popcorn in. You are gonna love it.

RS

Anonymous said...

"Get the popcorn in. You are gonna love it.

RS"

Threatening people online again? Still makes a change to sending intimidating messages to former States of Jersey Police Officers. Maybe a blog about you is well over due after all.

rico sorda said...

"Threatening people online again? Still makes a change to sending intimidating messages to former States of Jersey Police Officers"

What are you on about? Do what you got to do sunshine. But you might want to close the backdoor. Or it might just be a little late. No rush on my part. Someone once told me once a computer goes to sleep the real fun starts. Strange world we live in. No rush.

Rs

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Women in Politics and STATE RADIO.

Anonymous said...

Who are you talking to Rico?
Forgive me but these riddles are making no sense at the moment.

Anonymous said...

You should have an amnesty with whoever you are arguing with rs. It is no good and will only end in tears.

rico sorda said...

I have offered anonymous but all to no avail.

My god have I offered. You are right about the tears. There is certainly going to be some of those.

RS

Anonymous said...

"Threatening people online again? Still makes a change to sending intimidating messages to former States of Jersey Police Officers"

What are you on about?"

You sent a message to a former Police Officer on Facebook threatening to name them on this Blog. You are now on the SOJP radar just like another mate of yours who is appearing in court very shortly. Yes the fun is starting!

rico sorda said...

And why would I be doing that?

Anonymous said...

What's the latest on the COI?

rico sorda said...

I will be doing some updates soon. I have taken a little break from the blog. The fire is returning and so will I. Life is good and the break has been brilliant. Time to start cranking it back up

rico sorda said...

"Jon S Haworth Oh I am wholly responsible for everything! I was even accused a month back of being involved in somebody's tax matters! I keep the Police apprised of all this lunacy and they always guess the right people behind it all, but boy it gets weird!"

"Jon S Haworth I really worry about the level of intelligence we are dealing with here MM.

Rico Sorda has written numerous hate posts about a trial I was in (that was none of his business) and then proceeded to insult me online over matters that had nothing to do with me and then has the nerve to call me a troll !

The Police know all about him, his postings and his behaviour since it started and Pitman is almost identical.

He tries to write an offensive post about me with a drunken picture of a man in the street which Evans did a few years ago and the Police look at that and wonder what he is all about.

He then tries to go online and play a victim.
Its like a pantomime in which they pretend their own blog postings attacking others don't exist.

Like one of Littlejohn's catchphrases - You couldn't make it up."


That is taken from Facebook.

Jon, go to the police.

Demand that they call me in. Don't let me down. Im ready. Tell them to call or email me with a time and date. You are a liar. And I'm ready.

Free all day Sunday. Tell your liaison office to give me a tinkle because I have simply run out of patience with you.

Thank you

Rs

rico sorda said...

"Rico Sorda has written numerous hate posts about a trial I was in"

I certainly wouldn't call them "hate posts". I have asked questions about a tax funded secret court case -which I certainly am entitled to do.

rs

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Women in Politics 2 with DEPUTY SUSAN PINEL.

Anonymous said...

This all reads like you are trying to provoke Haworth into doing something when he wants nothing to do with you.

rico sorda said...

All I want Jon to do is go down the police station and ask them to call me in because he thinks I'm harassing him. This is so far from the truth. I just want to sort out the issues between us so I don't have to do it on my blog. His choice. When I do a blog that might be enough but I would rather just sort it out without having to resort to that measure.

As you can see Im trying to do the right thing.

rs

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

A witch hunt........in the public interest? PART THREE.

rico sorda said...

James Pearce "The stupidest thing about Sorda and is crappy blog is that he threatens to write about others which is a kind of blackmail, and then wonders why some people want him buried."

Im coming sunshine. Make no mistake. And you can't hide anymore. I feel really liberated.

rs

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

EQUALITY PARADE.

Anonymous said...

Nobody comments on here anymore.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

The Jersey Equality March was a resounding success and congratulations to all who took part.

You, and your readers, can view a glimpse of today's event HERE.

rico sorda said...

That is probably to do with the fact that I blog very little these days. They might leave some on my postings coming up though. They are going to be well worth a look and comment make no mistake.

rs

Anonymous said...

Because he spends all his time stalking and threatening Howarth anon.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Speeches from Deputy Sam Mezec and Senator Philip Ozouf at yesterday's Equality Parade HERE.

Click HERE for Ex Deputy Wimberley's Press Release said...

Readers should ensure that they do NOT miss the latest voiceforchildren pasting

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/jersey-child-abuse-committee-of-inquiry.html

this covers a Press Release by Former Deputy Daniel Wimberley and the 10 detailed questions he has sent to the Jersey child abuse and cover up inquiry and it's disappearing ToRs

and requires answers to if he is to consider giving evidence to the inquiry.


For some (not necessarily suspicious) reason that current voiceforchildren posting has still not appeared on the blogspot "blog list"

We may yet have a fit for purpose CoI, but only thanks to the efforts of bloggers and dedicated individuals like Mr. Wimberley.

rico sorda said...

Sorry not publishing the comments that are made to look like they come from Jon. They don't.

Click HERE to sign petition said...

One of the best ways of ensuing that the inquiry does it's job properly is to ensure that their work will be externally scrutinised. It concentrates the mind and the conscience.

Please sign this petition to ensure the Jersey inquiry do the best possible job, not the worst that they think they can get away with, as is beginning to look likely with their non-consultation, non-answers and evaporating ToRs

www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/theresa-may-home-secretary-include-jersey-channel-islands-in-the-historic-csa-inquiry

The future safety of Jersey and UK children depends on these things being done properly.
More information from Daniel Wimberley's submission to:

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/jersey-child-abuse-committee-of-inquiry.html