Friday, April 24, 2015

THE SPEECHES OF THE SEVEN POLITICIANS WHO WANTED THE JERSEY CHILD ABUSE ENQUIRY TO STOP









JERSEY CHILD ABUSE ENQUIRY OPPONENTS 


FOR THE RECORD - 2015 POST SAVILE - POLITICIANS STILL BURY THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND. 


HERE ARE THE SPEECHES OF THE 7  ( Senator Bailhache abstained) WHO VOTED AGAINST THE JERSEY CARE ENQUIRY FROM REACHING IT'S CONCLUSION.

THE PROPOSITION WAS PASSED FOR EXTRA FUNDING AND THE TRUTH LIVES TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. 


THE BELOW POLITICIANS SHOULD HANG THEIR HEADS IN SHAME.


Deputy Pinel


Constable Refault


Deputy Luce


Deputy Noel


Deputy Bryans


Deputy Truscott


Senator Bailhache

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Steve Luce 3.25 ''Care leavers that wanted to have their say have done so''? I thought only the victims had their say to the COI at that stage?

Anonymous said...

Well done for posting these recordings Rico. It is good that they are available for the historical record.

Readers may also want to read the accompanying transcripts from 24th and 25th March 2015. They are available at:

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyHansard/2015/2015.03.24 States - Edited Transcript.pdf

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyHansard/2015/2015.03.25 States - Edited Transcript.pdf

I have not had time to listen to them all, but the very first words of Deputy Pinel's speech clearly demonstrate the entrenched, blinkered mentality that good Jersey people are up against. She says:

"It is with, like others, enormous concern that I stand today. There has always been doubt as to what this time-consuming and expensive inquiry will ultimately achieve. This was weighed against the need to disprove any notions of cover-ups and to permit every victim of abuse to have the opportunity to tell their story and in some instances be awarded compensation

There you have it. Susie Pinel, without having heard any of the evidence actually believes that a key deliverable of this inquiry is to prove that there was not a cover up. She is clearly convinced that there was not a cover up. It could not possibly happen. Not in beautiful Jersey. No, nobody would ever cover anything up and the suggestion that they ever had done so must be disproved!.

This woman is the Social Security Minister. She controls 25% of the States of Jersey's annual budget. She has strong links with the Brig-y-Don children's home. Clearly, she has already made up and closed her mind, before the inquiry has even got on to hearing any of the evidence as to whether there may have been a cover up or not. In her mind, there never was any cover up. There cannot possibly have been one. It must be disproved. There is a need to do so!

May I remind Deputy Pinel that Terms of Reference for the Inquiry state:

13. Establish the process by which files were submitted by the States of Jersey Police to the prosecuting authorities for consideration, and establish –

Whether those responsible for deciding on which cases to prosecute took a professional approach;

Whether the process was free from political or other interference at any level.


The Terms of Reference are here http://www.jerseycareinquiry.org/Key Documents/Terms of Reference.pdf

This, dear reader, is the Jersey Way.

Anonymous said...

One minor bit of praise for a Jersey politician, Scott Wickenden, whose own political career got off to a controversial start with an invalid nomination paper followed by a court case.

In his speech at section 9.3.6 on the first day of the debate, 24th March, he said that he was not going to support the additional funding.

Then he listened to the rest of the debate, and clearly had a change of heart. The next day, he voted to approve the funding.

Sometimes, Jersey politicians get things right. I'm no fan of Mr Wickenden, but he did the right thing in this instance, to his great credit.

Anonymous said...

Such a useful record, even if it is painful listening to Sir Philip Bailhache and his daft followers. Thanks Rico.

Anonymous said...

Lets face it.
There is only one way P Bailhache can get off the hook....
Do a Lord Janner Alzheimer's!?

Anonymous said...

Pinel has something to do with Brig-y-Don? Can somebody please explain exactly what she has to do with the place or what involvement she has with any child welfare issues? What a blinkered and very dangerous view this woman has.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting these pedophile friendly speeches Rico they will form an integral part of the historical record.

Anonymous said...

Susie Pinel was the chair of the charity that runs the Brig-y-Don children's home in Jersey:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-13453939

I'm not sure if she still is. There is no mention of it on her Nov 2014 declaration on interests http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/AssemblyDeclarationsOfInterest/Pinel%20S.pdf

Nevertheless, her speech is illuminating.

The purpose of the Inquiry is to inquire, to go where the evidence takes it, to establish if there was a cover up, or not.

It is not the purpose of the inquiry to set out to "disprove any notions of cover-ups".

If Deputy Pinel, the current Social Security Minister (who took over from Francis Le Gresley, who fought for the inquiry) really thinks that is the purpose of the inquiry, then she really should consider her position.

As an aside, why have none of the MSM challenged her thought processes?

Does this episode teach you anything about how things might have gone so wrong in Jersey for such a long time?

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Former Attorney General, William Bailhache, WILL have QUESTIONS TO ANSWER.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Former Deputy Shona Pitman PRESS RELEASE.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

The Jersey Child Abuse Inquiry and WILLIAM BAILHACHE.

Anonymous said...

I have just listened to the Steve Luce speech. He obviously is very sad ... He said so repeatedly! To help him carry his great burden perhaps he should have voted for the child abuse victims and not allowed himself on this one occasion to be swayed by his sycophantic support for the ex bailiff.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Jersey International Finance Centre and DEMOCRACY.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

From today's PROTEST.

voiceforchildren said...

Rico.

Mario Lundy and Stuart Syvret at JERSEY CHILD ABUSE INQUIRY.

Anonymous said...

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